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Title: Vocal chamber music
Post by: pinoypianist on December 10, 2007, 11:39:23 AM
Since this is not about piano, i decided to post it here. Do you know any vocal chamber music (voice and violin or string quartet or any other instruments)? Thanks
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 10, 2007, 11:58:47 AM
Since this is not about piano, i decided to post it here. Do you know any vocal chamber music (voice and violin or string quartet or any other instruments)? Thanks
At the risk of self-publicity, may I mention that, among the very many works for voice and chamber ensemble, is my own string quintet which has a solo soprano in its finale? It's on the Altarus label (AIR-CD-9066[3]) and is a 3-CD set; it has been broadcast in US and UK.

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: Kassaa on December 10, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
Schubert has something for piano, clarinet and soprano I believe, a friend of mine played something for piano, voice and trumpet but I have no idea who wrote that.
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: astroboy on December 10, 2007, 01:20:07 PM
Schubert's 'shepherd on the rock' for piano, clarinet and soprano (which was mentioned), brahms wrote some stuff (not sure of the title) for soprano (or mezzo maybe), viola and piano, and also shostakovich wrote 7 romances for piano trio and soprano. i'm sure there is heaps more though
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: pinoypianist on December 10, 2007, 01:22:36 PM
To Alistair: Thank you for your suggestion, but I forgot to type that I was looking for Romantic period voice chamber music. Although I'm starting to listen, learn and to appreciate new and avante-garde music.

To Kasaa: thank you

To astroboy: thank you
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 10, 2007, 02:12:11 PM
To Alistair: Thank you for your suggestion, but I forgot to type that I was looking for Romantic period voice chamber music. Although I'm starting to listen, learn and to appreciate new and avante-garde music.
No problem - although I don't think that you'd find anything "avant-garde" about my quintet; it's all tonal, for starters(!) and parts of the score even have key-signatures...

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 10, 2007, 02:54:07 PM
my own string quintet which has a solo soprano in its finale?

hmmmmmm ?  :) ;D
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 10, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
hmmmmmm ?  :) ;D
Why "hmmmmmm ?  :) ;D"? Could you please phrase your question more clearly? (I'm sure that you could, for, as I've noted elsewhere, you do ask lots of them!). Please do so and then I'll try to answer it.

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 10, 2007, 03:05:19 PM
Why "hmmmmmm ?  :) ;D"? Could you please phrase your question more clearly? (I'm sure that you could, for, as I've noted elsewhere, you do ask lots of them!). Please do so and then I'll try to answer it.

Best,

Alistair

hee hee ... Well, I am a soprano (among other things  ;D) and wouldn't you just love to have me sing your music AND wouldn't you just love to write a work specially for my voice ?  ;D ;D

(How do you feel about the prospects of answering these questions now ?  :P).

Okay, that was very sopranoy (I generally try not to let the soprano out like that -- see what you have made me do ? ;)).  My pianist/composer/general musician side is mainly just interested in what you have written (but I guess that's not a question).

Better,
m1469
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 10, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
hee hee ... Well, I am a soprano (among other things  ;D) and wouldn't you just love to have me sing your music AND wouldn't you just love to write a work specially for my voice ?  ;D ;D

(How do you feel about the prospects of answering these questions now ?  :P).
Perfectly OK, actually. My answer would have to be that I do not know, since I have not knowingly heard you sing, do not know if you've ever heard any of my music and therefore have no idea whether you'd love to sing any of it or want a work specially written for you...(!!)...

Okay, that was very sopranoy (I generally try not to let the soprano out like that
Why is there such a tradition - upheld occasionally even by sopranos themselves - in the use of the term "soprano" as a pejorative?...

 -- see what you have made me do ? ;)).
I've never made you do anything!

My pianist/composer/general musician side is mainly just interested in what you have written (but I guess that's not a question).
No, it isn't, but since this thread is not about me or my work, why not PM me if you want to ask any questions about it?

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: thalbergmad on December 10, 2007, 06:21:25 PM
Hmm, he has encapsulated himself again.

Thal
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: pianowolfi on December 10, 2007, 11:17:26 PM
Perfectly OK, actually. My answer would have to be that I do not know, since I have not knowingly heard you sing, do not know if you've ever heard any of my music and therefore have no idea whether you'd love to sing any of it or want a work specially written for you...(!!)...
Why is there such a tradition - upheld occasionally even by sopranos themselves - in the use of the term "soprano" as a pejorative?...
I've never made you do anything!
No, it isn't, but since this thread is not about me or my work, why not PM me if you want to ask any questions about it?

Best,

Alistair

Alistair don't miss this chance  :)
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 10, 2007, 11:58:39 PM
Alistair don't miss this chance  :)
Er - what "chance" might that be? Please explain...

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 11, 2007, 03:21:56 AM
Alistair don't miss this chance  :)

You are nice, Wolfi :).  Maybe you will write for me something and I will program it in my next recital :-* ?
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: pianowolfi on December 11, 2007, 07:35:57 AM
Er - what "chance" might that be? Please explain...

Best,

Alistair
Well m1469 is a very good soprano, I have heard quite a few recordings from her :)
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: pianowolfi on December 11, 2007, 07:36:48 AM
You are nice, Wolfi :).  Maybe you will write for me something and I will program it in my next recital :-* ?

:) I'm working on it 8)
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 11, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
:) I'm working on it 8)

Wonderful  :).
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: richard black on December 11, 2007, 07:26:03 PM
Respighi 'Il tramonto' for voice (mezzo-soprano, I think) and string quartet.

Barber 'Dover Beach' for baritone and string quartet.

Both highly recommended.
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 11, 2007, 07:28:37 PM
At the risk of stating the obvious...

Schönberg's String Quartet No. 2 in F# minor, Op. 10 (mit sopran in the last two of its four movements).

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: thalbergmad on December 11, 2007, 08:30:21 PM
Well m1469 is a very good soprano, I have heard quite a few recordings from her :)

Yes, foxy did post some singing somewhere on here a while back and very nice it was.

Not exactly Yma Sumac, but very good.

Thal
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: thalbergmad on December 11, 2007, 08:41:28 PM
https://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2002/Nov02/Hinton.htm

Here is a nice write up about Alistair's Quintet.

I bought a copy from Amazon a while back, but have not got as far as the Finale yet. Too long for one listening session for me.

Thal
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 11, 2007, 09:32:15 PM
Not exactly Yma Sumac, but very good.

Thal

And she is not exactly (nor remotely) me, yet I am sure she is quite good :).
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: thalbergmad on December 11, 2007, 09:55:43 PM
Indeed she is not you foxy. She is about 60 years older for a start and i don't think you sing Peruvian Folk Songs.

I might be wrong, perhaps you do.

Thal
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: richard black on December 11, 2007, 10:16:25 PM
I feel I ought to weigh in in favour of Alistair's 5tet, by the way. I was involved in the recording (I made tea and stuff) so I do know it quite well. It's barking mad of course, but in the best possible way, and really rather wonderful. And leaving aside the question of the soprano in the last movement, the demands aren't really all that onerous. All you need is five of the best string players around and a couple of weeks solid for them to rehearse....

Seriously, I'd travel a long way to hear it again, and there aren't all that many pieces of which I would say that.
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: m1469 on December 11, 2007, 10:49:10 PM
I feel I ought to weigh in in favour of Alistair's 5tet, by the way (...) It's barking mad of course, but in the best possible way, and really rather wonderful.

*makes me wanty*  ;D

Indeed she is not you foxy. She is about 60 years older for a start and i don't think you sing Peruvian Folk Songs.

I might be wrong, perhaps you do.

Thal

Sure, but let's get serious here, Thal.  When have you ever been wrong ?  ;)
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: thalbergmad on December 11, 2007, 11:32:10 PM
When have you ever been wrong ?  ;)

Almost always foxy
Title: Re: Vocal chamber music
Post by: ahinton on December 12, 2007, 07:20:27 AM
I feel I ought to weigh in in favour of Alistair's 5tet, by the way.
Thank you very much!

I was involved in the recording (I made tea and stuff)
"Stuff" in this instance being very much more than merely pouring water onto tea in cups, as well I recall with boundless thanks!...

It's barking mad of course,
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"Mad", no doubt, but "barking"? I don't remember there being a dog outside the church during recording sessions; I thought that we'd left that wretched critter behind at St Silas years earlier...

And leaving aside the question of the soprano in the last movement,
I wouldn't leave her aside if you paid me! Sopranos like that one do not grow on any trees that I've ever seen...

the demands aren't really all that onerous. All you need is five of the best string players around and a couple of weeks solid for them to rehearse....
...and endless time trying to get diaries to co-ordinate first! That said, "five of the best string players around" was certainly what was procured for the occasion, mercifully...

Seriously, I'd travel a long way to hear it again, and there aren't all that many pieces of which I would say that.
Thank you very much for your kind words. It's been broadcast a few times but has yet to make it to a public performance; I hope that it does so eventually and you'll be among the first to know when it does!

Best,

Alistair