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Title: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: elevateme_returns on December 30, 2007, 01:58:59 AM
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5367704

what a laugh

!
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: retrouvailles on December 30, 2007, 03:09:43 AM
How about a vid?

Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: hodi on January 05, 2008, 05:55:48 PM
is it just me... or hamelin looks SO MUCH OLDER now in this video??
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: tompilk on January 05, 2008, 06:23:40 PM
is it just me... or hamelin looks SO MUCH OLDER now in this video??
well... yes. i think he looks more grown up. he's also seemed to have lost lots of weight (he still wears the same recital suit as the videos from the 90's and the suit looks a little too big on him!!!). And lost the glasses. and grown a beard. and, dare i say, he plays much better.
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: franzliszt2 on January 06, 2008, 10:06:33 AM
It's so funny, I bought that dvd, and watched the interview, and thought to myself "Ok, I may have been a litle harsh on the guy, he may be a genuine musician, who has been brandished with this 'supervirtuoso" label by genuinly CRAP pianists!" So I clicked off the screen, and was on bonus', and thought, "ahh ringtone waltz??" I watched this, and thought...."That is why people don't take you seriously!!"

I didn't like any performaces on the disk, although, the arpeggio at the end of the Chopin sonata was rather nice! The Chopin sonata is awful though, the 1st movement is not majestic at all, and it is not legato at all! The 2nd mvt is amazingly clean fingerwork, but is it anything else? The 3rd mvt, well, does Hamelin have a cantabile tone compared to Rachmaninoff or Cortot? I think not. The 4th mvt...does he know the meaning of ma non troppo? Also does he reasise that it is possible to play all the octave melodys perfectly legato on the top line by actually working hard? (this is what peopel mean when they say they don't think he has a great technique, he doesn't actually solve the major problem, which in this case is...legato octaves)
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: chopininov on January 06, 2008, 11:00:42 AM
It's so funny, I bought that dvd, and watched the interview, and thought to myself "Ok, I may have been a litle harsh on the guy, he may be a genuine musician, who has been brandished with this 'supervirtuoso" label by genuinly CRAP pianists!" So I clicked off the screen, and was on bonus', and thought, "ahh ringtone waltz??" I watched this, and thought...."That is why people don't take you seriously!!"

I didn't like any performaces on the disk, although, the arpeggio at the end of the Chopin sonata was rather nice! The Chopin sonata is awful though, the 1st movement is not majestic at all, and it is not legato at all! The 2nd mvt is amazingly clean fingerwork, but is it anything else? The 3rd mvt, well, does Hamelin have a cantabile tone compared to Rachmaninoff or Cortot? I think not. The 4th mvt...does he know the meaning of ma non troppo? Also does he reasise that it is possible to play all the octave melodys perfectly legato on the top line by actually working hard? (this is what peopel mean when they say they don't think he has a great technique, he doesn't actually solve the major problem, which in this case is...legato octaves)
What an insightful analysis on Hamelin's Irritation Waltz.
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: retrouvailles on January 06, 2008, 07:27:24 PM
I didn't like any performaces on the disk, although, the arpeggio at the end of the Chopin sonata was rather nice! The Chopin sonata is awful though, the 1st movement is not majestic at all, and it is not legato at all! The 2nd mvt is amazingly clean fingerwork, but is it anything else? The 3rd mvt, well, does Hamelin have a cantabile tone compared to Rachmaninoff or Cortot? I think not. The 4th mvt...does he know the meaning of ma non troppo? Also does he reasise that it is possible to play all the octave melodys perfectly legato on the top line by actually working hard? (this is what peopel mean when they say they don't think he has a great technique, he doesn't actually solve the major problem, which in this case is...legato octaves)

I, for one would like to see you do better in a live performance. You cannot compare him to Rachmaninoff or Cortot because of this. And I think you are being a bit harsh on the guy. There are many valid interpretations of the piece. And I for one loved this performance. It might not have been the best EVER, but it surely does many things right. The day you can go to a concerthall and do better than that is the day you can criticize someone so harshly.
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: faulty_damper on January 07, 2008, 12:00:38 PM
Having heard Hamelin perform this sonata live and having heard him on this DVD, I have to say that it is by far the best performance of it that I have ever heard.  I don't know who in the past has recorded this sonata better but all of the ones I have heard were not interesting.

I hope he records this sonata because I have been looking for a recording of it that I can actually listen to and not think "this is terrible."

Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: franzliszt2 on January 07, 2008, 03:23:53 PM
I, for one would like to see you do better in a live performance. You cannot compare him to Rachmaninoff or Cortot because of this. And I think you are being a bit harsh on the guy. There are many valid interpretations of the piece. And I for one loved this performance. It might not have been the best EVER, but it surely does many things right. The day you can go to a concerthall and do better than that is the day you can criticize someone so harshly.

Well if you like that Chopin sonata, you will hate mine! But I'm pretty sure it would be equally as accurate, and at a simlilar speed (my last mvt would of course be slower, as Hamelin plays it far to fast) If I played it like Hamelin in public, I would be annoyed at myself.

What did you like about it? Please tell me.

Go listen to cortot play it.

Or...


How amazing is it that DVD of Hamelin has the word LEGATO on the front hehehehe.


Have you played Chopin sonata no3 yourself?
Title: Re: Hamelin irritation waltz
Post by: retrouvailles on January 08, 2008, 09:44:39 AM
I have done all of those things and am still firm in my position. I won't let some random ass on the internet get to me or affect my opinion.