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Title: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: pianovirus on September 18, 2008, 11:30:48 PM
I guess for most of us there is a "Ständchen time" when we have to play this wonderful little piece. For me this was in the last couple of weeks and I recorded it today. There are still some wrong notes (I tried three times, then gave up for now  :P), but the interpretation itself is more or less what I wanted. I would be happy about any kind of comments, criticism, or suggestions. Oh, and here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8VVymBjel4) is the video...
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: allthumbs on September 19, 2008, 03:44:36 AM
Wonderfully played, I really enjoyed your interpretation.

Thanks for posting.

BTW, from the video, it looked really dark. I find it harder to play myself when the lighting is less than optimal.

allthumbs
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: pianovirus on September 19, 2008, 08:31:32 PM
Many thanks for your kind words, allthumbs!
Btw, it was not so dark in the room, and moreover I find it harder to get in the mood when there is too much light...  ;)
Best wishes,
  pianovirus.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: thierry13 on September 19, 2008, 11:49:58 PM
Your tone was fairly good but you still need to work on your phrasing. Nonetheless very good playing.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: pianovirus on September 20, 2008, 08:12:56 AM
Your tone was fairly good but you still need to work on your phrasing. Nonetheless very good playing.

Thanks for your comment, thierry! Actually, the phrasing was also mentioned to me by somebody else. I was not aware of it when playing, but now when listening to the recording, I fully agree with you.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: ronde_des_sylphes on September 20, 2008, 10:25:40 AM
I think such pieces are quite difficult to put across to a listener, because the mood is introspective and almost all of it takes place within a fairly restricted dynamic range, so it is especially important to make the required musical points.

At first I thought the performance was a little understated, but on returning to the video, I liked it a lot more. I think there are a lot of aspects to the interpretation which are very tastefully done when it would be easy to produce some rather kitschy playing instead. Good playing - thanks for posting!
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: scottmcc on September 20, 2008, 12:03:26 PM
I've always liked this piece a lot.  I've seen a variety of arrangements of it, and I've played the supposedly original schubert one.  do you happen to have a (public domain) copy of the arrangement you played?  I can't seem to find it.  thanks.  by the way, I liked your recording of it greatly.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: thierry13 on September 20, 2008, 07:24:02 PM
I've always liked this piece a lot.  I've seen a variety of arrangements of it, and I've played the supposedly original schubert one.  do you happen to have a (public domain) copy of the arrangement you played?  I can't seem to find it.  thanks.  by the way, I liked your recording of it greatly.

It's on IMSLP.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: pianisten1989 on September 20, 2008, 07:43:19 PM
Gimmie sheets plzz! :P

Still, some things I would change. Sometimes the tone gets a bit hard when you not uses the left pedal, and make sure the melody-tone gets most  melody... When you play the (I think) 6ths it's the 2nd voise get a bit to loud, in my opinion. And i thought i heard some misstakes, but that happens to everyone.

Well played =)
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: allthumbs on September 20, 2008, 07:51:09 PM
Here it is.

allthumbs

Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: scottmcc on September 20, 2008, 09:21:27 PM
Here it is.

allthumbs



thanks!  I'll have fun with it...but it's definitely significantly harder than the transcription I have.  guess I shouldn't be surprised since it's from Liszt.   :)
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: pianovirus on September 22, 2008, 11:32:00 AM
I think such pieces are quite difficult to put across to a listener, because the mood is introspective and almost all of it takes place within a fairly restricted dynamic range, so it is especially important to make the required musical points.

At first I thought the performance was a little understated, but on returning to the video, I liked it a lot more. I think there are a lot of aspects to the interpretation which are very tastefully done when it would be easy to produce some rather kitschy playing instead. Good playing - thanks for posting!

Many thanks, ronde. Regarding the mood of the piece, I think we have a similar conception. To me it's really a fine line to sentimentality in that piece, and I prefer those interpretations which convey an introvert (or introspective) mood without exaggerating. Now this may be a bit in contrast to the operatic genre (I hope to dabble there soon as well), where the grand emotions definitely do have a place!!  ;D 

Gimmie sheets plzz! :P

Still, some things I would change. Sometimes the tone gets a bit hard when you not uses the left pedal, and make sure the melody-tone gets most  melody... When you play the (I think) 6ths it's the 2nd voise get a bit to loud, in my opinion. And i thought i heard some misstakes, but that happens to everyone.

Well played =)

Thanks, pianisten! Yes, I want to get rid of the mistakes, too (need some more practice....). Regarding the 2nd voice being too loud, it's a good comment and I need to rethink. I did this deliberately in that case because I wanted to emphasize the "duetto" character (in Schubert's original, one of the voices is sung, and one is played by the piano). But I will play around with some alternatives.

thanks!  I'll have fun with it...but it's definitely significantly harder than the transcription I have.  guess I shouldn't be surprised since it's from Liszt.   :)

scottmcc, I'm glad you also enjoy the piece. It's definitely worth to invest some energy!! I'm sure you'll have fun with it. Btw, I don't know any other piano transcriptions of this Schubert song.
Title: Re: Schubert-Liszt: Ständchen (Youtube)
Post by: scottmcc on September 23, 2008, 12:03:16 PM

scottmcc, I'm glad you also enjoy the piece. It's definitely worth to invest some energy!! I'm sure you'll have fun with it. Btw, I don't know any other piano transcriptions of this Schubert song.

here's one, from sheetmusicarchive.net:  https://www.sheetmusicarchive.net/dlpage_new.cfm?composition_id=793 

I have another in a classical anthology, but not an electronic copy.

so far I like the liszt transcription the best.  it's gonna take me some time though, I'm not very good.   :)