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Piano Board => Repertoire => Topic started by: firediscovery on December 10, 2008, 11:57:58 PM
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How long are the following works?
1. All 12 of Liszt's Transcendental Etudes complete
2. Bach's Well Tempered Clavier Book 1
3. Bach's WTC Book 2
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What an odd question!???!! ??? Anyhow, here's a useful website that gives the average duration of almost every piano piece ever written. So if you're good at math, you can answer your own question. www.pianopedia.com
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4'33" :-\
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What an odd question!???!!
very! howzabout using a little thing called google and finding the disc timings?
I wouldn't exactly classify all of the WTC as etudes either.
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It's not an odd question. Suppose he/she is planning to play all three in a single concert. Of course it's important to know the duration for organizational reasons. Should this be the case, I would lay it out as follows:
WTC 1
12 Transcendental Etudes Liszt
---Break---
[24 Etudes Chopin]*
WTC 2
* A suggestion to enrich the otherwise rather minimalistic program ;)
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all three in a single concert would be ridiculous. Each WTC book is over an hour, and that's without any pause in between the pieces.
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all three in a single concert would be ridiculous. Each WTC book is over an hour, and that's without any pause in between the pieces.
What a serious answer :(
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Go to www.arkivemusic.com
They generally have timings up for the recordings they sell.
Claudio Arrau in Liszt's TE: 65 minutes
Jorge Bolet in Liszt's TE: 71 minutes
Of course it's not uncommon for these to be heard as a full recital.
Sviatoslav Richter's RCA WTC 1: 120 Minutes 31 Secs
Sviatoslav Richter's RCA WTC 2: 147 Minutes 16 Secs
He frequently gave performances of the WTC from his young career onward. There is the recording live from Innsbruck 7 and 10 August, 1973 capturing such (and much better than the RCA studio recordings!). I've read that Evgeny Koroliov gave a performance of both books when he was only 18 years old! Angela Hewitt does this now, I believe. Roger Woodward does combinations of Bach's and Shostakovich's preludes and fugues (those I don't know what the programs look like).
Ridiculous? Probably, but 4 hour or more concerts are not as common to this time, but they still happen. Bach's WTC and Sorabji's OC is just an example. Think that people travel to Bayreuth from all over the world to see Parsifal. Two days from now will be the 200th anniversary of Beethoven's mammoth program in Vienna which saw the premiers of his 4th Piano Concerto, Symphonies 5 and 6, the Choral Fantasy, and selections from the Mass in C minor.
But...a question was asked at the start of the tread with no mention of intentions, which makes me a rambler.
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Why do you classify the WTC's as Etudes :o
Kitty on the Keys
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Bach did use them as a teaching aid and published book 1 simultaneously with his other 'educational' music I think. That and they have a fairly close relationship to Chopin's etudes, but I'd personally not really call them etudes.