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Title: my piano family tree
Post by: njalli on May 30, 2009, 07:47:20 PM

I just found out today something, i know its kindof a 'longshot' but i wanted to share it with you guys.

Beethoven
      l
Czerny
      l
Franz Liszt
      l
Martin krause
      l
Claudio Arrau
      l
Bridgett Wild
      l
My teacher
      l
    Me

so you can see, Wild teached my teacher who was teached by Claudio arrau, who was teached by Martin Krause, who was teached by Franz Liszt, who waz teached by Czerny who was teached by none other than Beethoven.

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: richard black on May 30, 2009, 08:08:00 PM

I bet most of us can go back to Beethoven one way or another. I know I can - I was taught by a guy whose teacher was a pupil of Ravel and I once traced a link back from there. (Actually my teacher in that case wasn't much help to me, ironically!) My wife studied with a pupil of a pupil of Neuhaus. And so on....

It's a bit like that often-quoted bit of data that almost anyone in the world is linked to almost anyone else by at most 5 (or is it 6?) mutual acquaintances.

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: thalbergmad on May 30, 2009, 09:30:48 PM

Well, Beethoven taught Czerny, Czerny taught Liszt, Leschetizsky & Kullak, and they taught just about bleedin everyone.

It would not amaze me if thousands of pianists could trace back their ancestry to a common demoninator.

Thal

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: allthumbs on May 31, 2009, 03:17:55 AM

Quote from: thalbergmad on May 30, 2009, 09:30:48 PM

It would not amaze me if thousands of pianists could trace back their ancestry to a common demoninator.

Thal

No doubt, we're all related in some way or another anyway.

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: aslanov on June 03, 2009, 01:00:52 PM

Quote from: richard black on May 30, 2009, 08:08:00 PM

I bet most of us can go back to Beethoven one way or another. I know I can - I was taught by a guy whose teacher was a pupil of Ravel and I once traced a link back from there. (Actually my teacher in that case wasn't much help to me, ironically!) My wife studied with a pupil of a pupil of Neuhaus. And so on....

It's a bit like that often-quoted bit of data that almost anyone in the world is linked to almost anyone else by at most 5 (or is it 6?) mutual acquaintances.

I read an article in...i believe Discover magazine, a while back about that study of 6 degrees of separation, and turns out the person who conducted the study failed to include the results of those acquaintances which were greater than 6 degrees, or NONE at all.

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: gep on June 03, 2009, 01:14:49 PM

Quote from: thalbergmad on May 30, 2009, 09:30:48 PM

... trace back their ancestry to a common demoninator.

Thal

Wouldn't that be a "common demoniser"? Or "demon-initiator"?

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: mikey6 on June 03, 2009, 02:05:46 PM

I think you guys may have killed the initial enthusiasm of this thread  ;)

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: gep on June 03, 2009, 05:26:36 PM

Hey, I didn't start about a demoninator! ;D

But think of this one: I once spoke to the mayor here, she'd spoken with our queen who has spoken with just about every king, queen, president and whatnot of the world! So I've come thát close to shaking hands with G.W. Bush!

*starts itching, goes to shower...* ;D

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: tanman on June 04, 2009, 01:42:52 AM

umm... my uncle's name is Fred Robert Schumann.
does that count?   :)

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: rachfan on June 15, 2009, 03:10:27 AM

But why stop at Beethoven?  He studied with Neefe who studied with Hiller, who studied with Homilius, who studied with Johann Sebastian Bach.

Title: Re: my piano family tree
Post by: birba on June 15, 2009, 05:40:31 AM

And we're all descended from Adam and Eve...