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Title: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: countrymath on March 28, 2011, 03:14:48 PM
I read about scarlatti sonatas here and found that they are good pieces for technique development, but i dont like to listen to them :P.

Does anyone knows some replacement for the sonatas? I mean, other pieces with similar technique?
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: kitty on the keys on March 29, 2011, 01:43:44 AM
Handel        Sonatas in C and a minor
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Cimerosa     Sonatas

Telemann     Fantasias


Kitty on the Keys

Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: liszt1022 on March 29, 2011, 02:43:27 AM
I would still recommend Scarlatti sonatas. There are hundreds of them. I listened to record after record in order to find two to put on a recital, and I'm sure if you had a nice big playlist of them you'd be able to find some you like, too.

The ones I chose I can't recall the numbers. One was in Bb major and started with arpeggios in RH and LH and had lots of repeated notes in the middle section.
The other was in G minor and some great opportunity for individual interpretation and expression.
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: Derek on March 29, 2011, 03:01:00 AM
Check this out:

Scarlatti Midi (https://www.classicalmidiconnection.com/zip/scarlatti/)

This has all of Scarlatti's sonatas in midi format. I remember browsing these and getting really excited about a few of them. Some of them are really intense, minor key pieces like K10 (one of very many examples)...very fun to play. Scarlatti is awesome! Easily one of my favorite composers of all time. Well, give those a browse and if you still don't like him, guess you'll have to find your replacement after all!

One piece which still blows my mind is K175. It's got big clusters of tones (diatonic clusters, but still, whoa) that is very rare to hear in baroque music, as far as I know!
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: keyboardclass on March 29, 2011, 06:43:08 AM
WF Bach though CPE may also take your fancy.
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: countrymath on March 29, 2011, 12:23:19 PM
I would still recommend Scarlatti sonatas. There are hundreds of them. I listened to record after record in order to find two to put on a recital, and I'm sure if you had a nice big playlist of them you'd be able to find some you like, too.

The ones I chose I can't recall the numbers. One was in Bb major and started with arpeggios in RH and LH and had lots of repeated notes in the middle section.
The other was in G minor and some great opportunity for individual interpretation and expression.

K070

I like this one too :p
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: countrymath on March 29, 2011, 12:24:16 PM
Thanks for the replies

Ill check them out.
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: tds on March 29, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
soler? couperin?
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: joeplaysthepiano on March 31, 2011, 04:18:44 PM
Before you write Scarlatti off, you should listen to K.1, K.27, K.119, K.96, K.491, K.492, K.380, and K.141.  If you don't like any of those, then you probably don't like Scarlatti, but give them a chance first.
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: keyboardclass on March 31, 2011, 08:34:39 PM
Certainly the Essercizi published in London in 1738 were highly influential  but I find them rather a bit samey.
Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: Derek on April 01, 2011, 01:40:05 AM
Before you write Scarlatti off, you should listen to K.1, K.27, K.119, K.96, K.491, K.492, K.380, and K.141.  If you don't like any of those, then you probably don't like Scarlatti, but give them a chance first.

Why stop there? @countrymath I'd say K10, K35, K11, K517,  K386, K476, K114, K519.    Just to name a handful. If you're anything like me (and I think you might be, since you like fast, intense minor key pieces like fantasy impromptu, etc.) I bet you'll like a few of those listed there (as well as those listed by joe)

*edit* I'm browsing that midi collection as I edit this. K98, K99, K111, K131 (whoa...enjoying this)....,

and what is fast becoming my favorite piece by him... K487. I have Scott Ross playing all 555 or so of them as well, really great stuff!! K487 makes me headbang. I really am a metalhead at heart, not really a pianist.

K487 on piano:

Title: Re: Replacement for Scarllati Sonatas
Post by: countrymath on April 01, 2011, 01:29:52 PM
If you're anything like me (and I think you might be, since you like fast, intense minor key pieces like fantasy impromptu, etc.) I bet you'll like a few of those listed there (as well as those listed by joe)

Yeah yeah yeah  >:(

I'll check those.