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Title: Improv.
Post by: cdowlen on September 11, 2011, 08:41:26 PM
I've always loved improvisation in Jazz and other music. I'm competing in a jazz competition this week and was just wondering, what is the key to Improv.? How to go about it? and do I just go with the flow of the music or just go wild on the notes?

Thanks
Title: Re: Improv.
Post by: phillip21 on September 11, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
I'm not a jazz pianist at all (and to me, most jazz improvisations are self-indulgent and meaningless note spinning which get applauded because the audiences thinks the pianist is clever to play so fast even if they don't understand what they are hearing!) - but I would say that whatever you do, give the audience something to latch on to, and time to collect their thoughts.  Don't lose sight of the theme, and put in the odd bit of rubato.  Above all, be aware of the vibe of the venue, and sense the reactions of the audience to what you are doing.
Title: Re: Improv.
Post by: dcstudio on September 12, 2011, 03:33:11 PM
I am.  ;D  this is an example of me improving with a really injured right hand... 

I would be honored if you would listen...



I am exp. at it...the key for me--is to not try to "invent" jazz...    I had a compressed nerve in my hand which wouldn't allow me to lift my wrist, and I was pretty whacked out on the painkillers the doc gave me--but jazz still managed to come out...actually I really like this vid...but that's just my opinion...hee hee
Title: Re: Improv.
Post by: cdowlen on October 12, 2011, 10:48:02 PM
Thank you so much both of you....I've actually started applying this to my playing. When it comes to doing improv. its so much fun. I completely agree the audience matters the most.

Oh and I'm impressed by the left-handed improv. That's so cool. I can't believe it to be honest. I've known people to impress but that's crazily smooth Jazz. You should feel honored to be able to play that kinda improv on the piano.

Like I said, Thanks again.
Title: Re: Improv.
Post by: Derek on October 13, 2011, 05:13:09 PM
Improvisation has many forms...so many it sometimes (often, actually) defies intelligent discussion. One form which, strangely to me and fellow practitioners, that gets neglected, is what one might call "personal improvisation." See this essay (https://community.middlebury.edu/~harris/MusicPapers/PersonalMusic.html) by William Harris for a good idea of what I'm talking about. In this form of improvisation YOU are the primary audience. Though, you may find if you please yourself, you may please others too. Speaking from my personal experience, while gaining fluency in a style is a gratifying and rewarding activity, whether it be boogie, baroque, jazz, personal improvisation is far and beyond more rewarding. Because it is mine. It is not me imitating someone else...it is truly...mine. What was more amazing to me was that it isn't JUST BECAUSE it is mine that the music that I create is good---the truth is music is so vast, each and every individual who feels so inclined has the ability to create their own musical language. It is up to you whether to take the journey or not. I am sure glad I did...
Title: Re: Improv.
Post by: cdowlen on October 13, 2011, 09:28:10 PM
That helps me even more as a musician. It says to me I've got encouragement out there. It gives me a new aspect on Improv. I completely agree about it being my own. That's one of the greatest things in the world. I love music so I don't have any reason not to take the journey. Thank you so much.