Piano Forum

Piano Board => Repertoire => Topic started by: njimenez4u on May 18, 2012, 02:27:30 AM

Title: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: njimenez4u on May 18, 2012, 02:27:30 AM
IN the score, there is no indication of piano or no pedal in bars 17-18, though every performance i hear people get lower and use no pedal most of the time. Are there are any vindications for this, is it implied? Does anybody know?
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: j_menz on May 18, 2012, 03:12:59 AM
There is pedal marked on my score. That aside, you have to use a bit of discretion with all Chopin's pedal markings as the hold power of pianos in his day was less and use as marked can result in a muddy blur on a modern piano.
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: ajspiano on May 18, 2012, 03:23:05 AM
Full pedal over the ascending minor 9ths in bar 17 can be a bit dissonant, and its a good place for some contrast in a piece full of thunderously fulfilling mostly consonant resonances. Don't know what temperament Chopin played it with..?

Also -

Quote from: j_menz
...
Its a bit like I'm stalking you, always posting directly after you...
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: j_menz on May 18, 2012, 03:34:33 AM
Don't know what temperament Chopin played it with..?

For the piano, I would have thought equal, being pretty universally established by then but still not old hat enough to tempt experimentation.

As for Chopin, somewhat sulky (if Ms Sand is to be believed)

Its a bit like I'm stalking you, always posting directly after you...

I suppose there could be worse people.  Maybe I should buy a dog, though.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: ajspiano on May 18, 2012, 03:41:46 AM
Maybe I should buy a dog, though.  ;D

When I'm not teaching piano I'm usually out handling badly behaved (and sometimes dangerous) dogs for a living..

..get a lion.
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: j_menz on May 18, 2012, 04:01:11 AM
..get a lion.

I'm not really a cat person, and lions are a bit hard to come by.  Perhaps I could just get a troll.  They seem to become available every so often.  ;D
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: ajspiano on May 18, 2012, 04:06:18 AM
I'm not really a cat person, and lions are a bit hard to come by.  Perhaps I could just get a troll.  They seem to become available every so often.  ;D

Keep your eye on the performance board, watch for words like "relaxation" or "rotation".
Title: Re: Dynamics in Chopin's Etude Op.10 no.1
Post by: pianowolfi on May 20, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Keep your eye on the performance board, watch for words like "relaxation" or "rotation".

LOL  ;D