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Title: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: rachmaninoff_forever on September 30, 2013, 07:16:26 PM
MOZART!!!

I freaking HATE Mozart!!!

Mozart and Bach is too much for one hero to handel!!!

I need a sidekick!!!
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: mikeowski on September 30, 2013, 08:17:28 PM
Please explain why in a most professional manner.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: iansinclair on September 30, 2013, 09:16:49 PM
With apologies to whoever it was who wrote the original poem...

The reason why I cannot tell
But this I know, and know full well
I don't much like Mozart either.

Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: indianajo on September 30, 2013, 11:56:51 PM
Mozart to me is a 6 greatest hits guy. Marriage of Figaro, Magic Flute, Jupiter Symphony, Turkish March, Twinkle Twinkle Little Star, one other Symphony I can't remember for all the drivel ones.  The classical music FM station plays Mozart Muzak (filler, elevator music, whist playing music for rich patrons who weren't listening) 8 hours a day, driving me to an oldies pop/country/rock/standards station (WNAS-FM, online high school radio) frequently. ****, I've got to fix the record player amplifier this winter to get away from Mozart. I have 2000 LP records and none of them is Mozart. 
JS Bach wrote a dozen great mathematical-musical treatises, Prelude & Fuguie things,  and some other pleasant social events like Brandenburg concertos and keyboard concertos.  I can do without the hymns and cantatas. French Suites left me cold even when I was an impressionable pianos student.  Why didn't she give me a great Partida or something to study?  But on WFMT radio service and our local affiliate WUOL-FM, now you mostly hear JS Bach on the ***-**** gut string guitar.  ********!@#$$%
Besides JSB (ever since Walt Disney publicized him in 1957, ha!), I love Tschaikovsky, Moussorgski, Beethoven, (all also Fantasia alumni) Lennon & McCartny, Geoff & King, Gershwin,  Johnny Mercer, King the Circus March King, and Sousa.  Go figure.  
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: awesom_o on October 01, 2013, 01:38:30 AM
Check out Mozart's Sonatas for Four Hands. They show his genius rather well.
Also, his late symphonies are divine.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: ted on October 01, 2013, 01:50:03 AM
I do not think music has any connection with morality at all. This sort of spurious thinking, encouraged by far too many classical snobs of the past, for example Hofmann, whose comments were totally ridiculous, has prevented people from enjoying all sorts of music. Are we to reject the music of Schubert and Liszt because they were boozers or lecherous rakes ? Are we to say that the fabulous piano music of Morton is to be deemed less beautiful because of its places of origin ? I don't think so !

I am indifferent to most Mozart and can take Bach only in small doses, but neither are evil in any sense of the word, even the purely metaphorical. Beauty and goodness are different things, as are the quality of a pianist's sounds and his behaviour or personality.    
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: rachmaninoff_forever on October 01, 2013, 03:14:22 AM


, but neither are evil in any sense of the word, even the purely metaphorical. Beauty and goodness are different things, as are the quality of a pianist's sounds and his behaviour or personality.    

The devil comes in may forms...
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: dima_76557 on October 01, 2013, 04:23:28 AM
handel!!!

Underrated composer with 16 splendid keyboard suites. Try him instead. :)
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: outin on October 01, 2013, 04:38:56 AM
MOZART!!!

I freaking HATE Mozart!!!

Definitely much much worse than Bach...I cannot stand to listen to any of his works for 5 minutes, so I will always refuse to play them. If I had a time machine I'd go back and kick his ass and force him to write something likable...Clearly he had the skill, just didn't have the personality...

I can name a few composers that made me dislike classical music for many many years in my youth and Mozart is probably number one  >:(

Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: ahinton on October 01, 2013, 05:13:25 AM
MOZART!!!

I freaking HATE Mozart!!!
I've never actually met him.

Mozart and Bach is too much for one hero to handel!!!
Is that supposed to be funny? Some people might well hate overuse of exclamation marks in triplicate and frequent grammatically questionable recourse to the term "freaking", but there...

I need a sidekick!!!
I'm not so sure about the "side"...

Best,

Alistair
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: j_menz on October 01, 2013, 06:04:18 AM
With apologies to whoever it was who wrote the original poem...

Tom Brown. Not the school days one.

I don't much like Mozart either.

He has only good things to say about you.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: j_menz on October 01, 2013, 06:05:32 AM
The devil comes in may forms...

To steal "n"s apparently.

What Mozart are you murdering?
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Post by: thalbergmad on October 01, 2013, 07:23:19 PM
I have always been of the opinion that the genius of Mozart is not present in his piano solo works.

I much prefer Clementi, Eberl and Woelfl.

Thal
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Post by: cometear on October 01, 2013, 08:10:53 PM
Definitely much much worse than Bach...I cannot stand to listen to any of his works for 5 minutes, so I will always refuse to play them. If I had a time machine I'd go back and kick his ass and force him to write something likable...Clearly he had the skill, just didn't have the personality...

I can name a few composers that made me dislike classical music for many many years in my youth and Mozart is probably number one  >:(



Wow that's a shame. I particularly enjoy Mozart over many composers. His music is challenging for me, yes, but I do enjoy it. I find Mozart MUCH harder than Chopin and Bach in almost all instances but I really do like listening to it.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: outin on October 02, 2013, 04:33:46 AM
Wow that's a shame. I particularly enjoy Mozart over many composers. His music is challenging for me, yes, but I do enjoy it. I find Mozart MUCH harder than Chopin and Bach in almost all instances but I really do like listening to it.

But aren't we lucky that there's so much variety in piano music that even though I don't like some really popular composers I still will never run out of great pieces to listen and/or learn  :)
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: senanserat on October 08, 2013, 12:37:11 AM
MOZART!!!

I freaking HATE Mozart!!!

Mozart and Bach is too much for one hero to handel!!!

I need a sidekick!!!

Handel meet Gretel.

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Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: kakeithewolf on October 12, 2013, 03:51:44 PM
I've personally never bothered listening to Mozart. Sure there's a few pieces he's incredibly famous for, but the rest of his 600 odd-something piece repetoire is fairly run of the mill and not unlike the average compositions at the time.

Most of Mozart's fame comes primarily from the fact he was a prodigy, playing harpsichord as young as three and composing pieces (albeit very short ones requiring his father to write the notes down) as early as five. In the span on a 35 year life, he created hundreds of pieces, many at very early ages.

But, in the end, when I look past the early start and the ten or twenty truly notable pieces, I'm left with a composer who was like most others of the time.

Bach, on the other hand, I listen to extensively. In his time, he was considered second rate. In our time, there's quite a few pieces of his you can play and pretty much any given person will recognize them. Even with numerous works that were in excess of one or two hours, he still managed to make over a thousand pieces.

And personally? I quite prefer the harpsichord and organ over the piano.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: ranniks on October 13, 2013, 05:53:35 PM
Nani korra!?

Mozart Sugoi!

Bach Sugoi!

Honto!
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: pjaul on October 13, 2013, 07:36:40 PM
My opinion?  Spend more time focusing on what you do like and quietly lay the rest aside.  What does declaring hatred accomplish?

I personally love Mozart.  Learning his concerto K 488 transformed me as a player and a person.
Title: Re: There is an evil even greater than Bach...
Post by: awesom_o on October 13, 2013, 08:34:51 PM
My opinion?  Spend more time focusing on what you do like and quietly lay the rest aside.  What does declaring hatred accomplish?


 8) This guy knows what he's talking about.