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Title: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 01, 2013, 04:50:07 AM
Hi, I'm looking for pieces to play with my school orchestra that has a relatively hard piano part, but a relatively easy string orchestra part.
It has to sound good, be relatively short, and be an audience pleaser.
Arrangements are fine too. I found a nice arrangement of the Grieg Concerto already.
Also, I prefer that the composer be relatively well-known among pianists/musicians.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: kalirren on November 01, 2013, 05:34:25 AM
Beethoven's 4th piano concerto comes to mind.  You said you needed an easy string orchestra part.  Do you have access to a good wind section, or no winds at all?

Never mind, you wanted something short.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 01, 2013, 01:23:26 PM
My orchestra only has strings because the school separated the different classes of instruments into different bands/orchestras.
Also, to avoid getting this suggestion, I have browsed through IMSLP for weeks, so don't recommend it.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: arnost123456789 on November 01, 2013, 03:40:42 PM
Try looking for some mozart's piano concertos. They've beautiful , love it.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 01, 2013, 03:44:27 PM
Try looking for some mozart's piano concertos. They've beautiful , love it.
I tried, but there is not version for just string orchestra and piano that is on IMSLP or in public domain that I know of.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: ale_ius on November 01, 2013, 04:40:39 PM
I wants a castle but is have to be red and it can't has a rectangular courtyard oh and I checked and the mountains don't work for me so don't suggest it.

Honestly if you must will insist on such hyper specific limits or is doubtful you will get what you want and your post comes across as bratty.

Have you consulted the string orchestra conductor for ideas ? They are likely to have good knowledge of the string ensemble literature also the score rental departments that supply orchestras sometimes have highly knowledgeable consultants as part of the sales staff, let them know what you are after and a budget and they can help you look and look for you from their catalogue.

Or you could do this new fancy thing called research in this awesome place called a library where , get this , people go to discover and learn what they want to....

Personal discovery of the literature is part on our development as musicians, you should try it.

But I want to help so here :  worldcat.org. Search Hinson guide pianist and orchestra . There is bound to be a hit for the bible of piano and ensemble works.  

Or you can just commission a work.

Hugz n kissez
Alee Marie :-*
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 01, 2013, 07:46:31 PM
I wants a castle but is have to be red and it can't has a rectangular courtyard oh and I checked and the mountains don't work for me so don't suggest it.

Honestly if you must will insist on such hyper specific limits or is doubtful you will get what you want and your post comes across as bratty.

Have you consulted the string orchestra conductor for ideas ? They are likely to have good knowledge of the string ensemble literature also the score rental departments that supply orchestras sometimes have highly knowledgeable consultants as part of the sales staff, let them know what you are after and a budget and they can help you look and look for you from their catalogue.

Or you could do this new fancy thing called research in this awesome place called a library where , get this , people go to discover and learn what they want to....

Personal discovery of the literature is part on our development as musicians, you should try it.

But I want to help so here :  worldcat.org. Search Hinson guide pianist and orchestra . There is bound to be a hit for the bible of piano and ensemble works. 

Or you can just commission a work.

Hugz n kissez
Alee Marie :-*
Sorry if I came across as bratty. I talked to the conductor, who didn't have any ideas since this was the first time they had a pianist in the orchestra. I don't have time to go to a library. Plus, this is a high school, which means, at least for my high school, that the conductor is the one who finds the scores and prints/buys tem on a budget. There is no score rental department at my school that I know of. That is why there are so many restrictions.

That aside, thank you so much for the link. I appreciate you not raining insults and curses down on me. ;D
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: pbryld on November 01, 2013, 08:42:12 PM
All the Bach concerti sound ah-mazing on piano, and they are for strings and keyboard(s) only. I can only recommend them.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: thesixthsensemusic on November 01, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
Mozart's 14, 15 and 16 IIRC are written to be performed with just a string quartet as backing as an alternative to the entire orchestra.
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 01, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. One question: @ thesixthsensemusic what does IIRC mean, and does the string quartet score meant for a conductor (full score, not like a typical complete score of a piano quintet where the piano part is bigger than the string parts)?

@pbryid I'm loving the Bach concerti. You meant the Bradenburg ones right?

Any more suggestions would be helpful since this repertoire has to last for 8 more concerts (one hour each) over the course of 3 years. :)
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: thesixthsensemusic on November 01, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
It means 'if I remember correctly'...

it would seem to me that the double bass players should double the cello part an octave below. Perhaps one would not have them do that all the time, but often enough, just to beef up the sound.

The rest of the parts can be played by the corresponding string players in the orchestra. I'm sure the conductor involved would be capable enough to identify and mark those cello parts that could do with octave doubling....
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: pbryld on November 02, 2013, 08:47:15 AM
@pbryid I'm loving the Bach concerti. You meant the Bradenburg ones right?

No, the ones i meant don't have nicknames. Here is my favourite:


Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: cometear on November 03, 2013, 03:21:58 AM
Bach piano concerti are the greatest!
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: worov on November 03, 2013, 07:55:11 AM
First of all, have a look here :

https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:For_piano%2C_strings&transclude=Template:Catintro][url]https://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:For_piano%2C_strings&transclude=Template:Catintro (https://[url)[/url]


There's also Alan Hovhaness' Lousadzak (concerto for piano and string orchestra) :



Howard Ferguson : Concerto for piano and string orchestra, opus 12 :




Cecil Armstrong Gibbs : Concertino for piano and string orchestra, op. 103



Now, get googling !
Title: Re: Does anyone know any good music for piano and string orchestra?
Post by: stravinskylover on November 03, 2013, 03:41:40 PM
Thanks everyone!