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Piano Board => Repertoire => Topic started by: pianistaw on December 07, 2013, 02:53:30 PM
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I heard somewhere that Czerny wrote his etudes based on Beethoven's sonatas. Is this true?
And if, does anybody know which etudes he wrote for the Waldstein sonata? If he ever had published such information.
If not, does someone with extensive knowledge on both the Waldstein and the Czerny etudes know which etudes he wrote for it?
The reason I am asking this is because I intend to play it next year and since I play etudes as warmups I thought, why not take advantage of that and prepare myself for the sonata.
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I heard somewhere that Czerny wrote his etudes based on Beethoven's sonatas.
Where did you hear that?
Czerny studied music with Beethoven. Beethoven was his music teacher. Back in those days, if you were a gifted pupil like Czerny, you learned many things from your teacher! Undoubtedly you would be influenced by your teacher's work.
But saying Czerny wrote his etudes based on Beethoven's sonatas is.....well.....it doesn't sound like a very enlightened thing to say.
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I know the secret , all the advanced pianists an pros use it And it works, they all promise, I can attest.
The key and best etudes to prepare for it is, get ready, I do not kid around, learn a then another And then several or many Beethoven piano sonatas before you begin this one. Crazy, I know , but it's true I promise !
-Alee M
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Where did you hear that?
Czerny studied music with Beethoven. Beethoven was his music teacher. Back in those days, if you were a gifted pupil like Czerny, you learned many things from your teacher! Undoubtedly you would be influenced by your teacher's work.
But saying Czerny wrote his etudes based on Beethoven's sonatas is.....well.....it doesn't sound like a very enlightened thing to say.
Well then I think I must have misinterpreted information.
I know the secret , all the advanced pianists an pros use it And it works, they all promise, I can attest.
The key and best etudes to prepare for it is, get ready, I do not kid around, learn a then another And then several or many Beethoven piano sonatas before you begin this one. Crazy, I know , but it's true I promise !
-Alee M
I'm not stupid. I just thought I had read it somewhere and reasoned it would be smart to play some of the etudes for my goal next year. I have already plenty of work to do, and taking on a Beethoven sonata is not just something one does for a month or two.
Therefore etudes would have been easier on my time.
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I just thought I had read it somewhere and reasoned it would be smart to play some of the etudes for my goal next year.
Czerny did write a Reminsicences of Beethoven which includes musical notes.
Chapters 2, 3 and 4 of his opus 500 (The Complete Practical and Theoretical Pianoforte School) are the exercises he wrote that are generally considered to be directed at the Sonatas.
Together, these were put together in a book called "On the proper performance of all Beethoven's works for the piano : Czerny's "Reminiscences of Beethoven" and chapters II and III from volume IV of the "Complete theoretical and practical piano forte school op. 500." (https://www.worldcat.org/title/on-the-proper-performance-of-all-beethovens-works-for-the-piano-czernys-reminiscences-of-beethoven-and-chapters-ii-and-iii-from-volume-iv-of-the-complete-theoretical-and-practical-piano-forte-school-op-500/oclc/5269565)"
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Czerny did write a Reminsicences of Beethoven which includes musical notes.
Chapters 2, 3 and 4 of his opus 500 (The Complete Practical and Theoretical Pianoforte School) are the exercises he wrote that are generally considered to be directed at the Sonatas.
Together, these were put together in a book called "On the proper performance of all Beethoven's works for the piano : Czerny's "Reminiscences of Beethoven" and chapters II and III from volume IV of the "Complete theoretical and practical piano forte school op. 500." (https://www.worldcat.org/title/on-the-proper-performance-of-all-beethovens-works-for-the-piano-czernys-reminiscences-of-beethoven-and-chapters-ii-and-iii-from-volume-iv-of-the-complete-theoretical-and-practical-piano-forte-school-op-500/oclc/5269565)"
Thanks, I'll take a look at it. Can one buy it? Just had a quick look, but it seemed like a library site.
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Thanks, I'll take a look at it. Can one buy it? Just had a quick look, but it seemed like a library site.
I believe it's out of print. There are some links in this thread (https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=37282.0) which may help.
There's a scribd (English) version here (https://www.scribd.com/doc/44487641/Czerny-Op-500-on-the-Proper-Performance-of-All-Beethoven-s-Works-Chap).