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Title: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: chrismerrill1974 on January 17, 2014, 10:36:03 PM: It always amazes me when people will trust groupthink instead of their ears. Some of Czerny's works are really fun to play and harmonically interesting.

The Op 92 Toccata in C is really fun to play and worth learning. The following performance of it is a great one:

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The Czerny: Etude in G minor, Op. 740 no. 50 is operatic and dramatic, along the lines of Beethoven's Appassionata in terms of some of the figuration at times. Here is a good performance of it:

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There's a book of Unfamiliar Masterworks of 19th century composers. In the Etude Melodieuse Op. 795 #3, you can hear why Czerny prefigured Chopin... Czerny was writing Nocturnes before Chopin started... was one of Chopin's influences, just like John Field.

https://www.amazon.com/Nineteenth-Century-European-Piano-Music-Masterworks/dp/0486234479/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389998005&sr=8-1&keywords=unfamiliar+19th+century+european
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: awesom_o on January 17, 2014, 10:44:14 PM: Czerny was a great composer!! :o

I love this work:

I'm glad you realize how great Czerny was as a composer! Definitely one of the most underrated composer of the Classical era! An important link between the Beethoven/Mozart style and the Chopin/Liszt style!
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: chrismerrill1974 on January 17, 2014, 10:50:30 PM: Thanks for the link! I'll have a listen. Good to hear that some others agree. ;D
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: rachmaninoff_forever on January 17, 2014, 11:22:32 PM: Check out his sonatas. They're freaking kickass.
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: thalbergmad on January 18, 2014, 02:57:59 PM: It has taken a long time for Czerny the composer to emerge from his mass of exercises.

There is a sparkling wit in his music and I find it thoroughly uplifting. He can also tear at the heartstrings when he wants to.

I cannot imagine going more than a week without listening to his Haydn Variations.

Thal
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: stravinskylover on January 19, 2014, 08:39:51 PM: Thanks for making a thread out of this! Czerny has become one of my favorite composers now. Is Czerny from the classical era or the romantic era?
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: awesom_o on January 19, 2014, 08:46:22 PM: He is an important connection between the two eras!

I find his music is a bit like Beethoven without the anger-management problems!
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: hardy_practice on January 19, 2014, 09:57:26 PM: Field called him the human inkpot.
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: j_menz on January 19, 2014, 11:01:59 PM: Quote from: chrismerrill1974 on January 17, 2014, 10:36:03 PM
In the Etude Melodieuse Op. 795 #3, you can hear why Czerny prefigured Chopin... Czerny was writing Nocturnes before Chopin started... was one of Chopin's influences, just like John Field.

True generally, but this particular one was written after most of Chopin's.

There's a huge amount of great Czerny stuff now coming into print (fortunately), and I heartily recommend having a look at it.
Title: Re: Czerny is more than technical studies
Post by: thalbergmad on January 19, 2014, 11:07:40 PM: Quote from: hardy_practice on January 19, 2014, 09:57:26 PM
Field called him the human inkpot.

We all know what Field's pot was full of.

hic

Thal