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Piano Board => Audition Room => Topic started by: pianoman1233 on October 09, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
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Hi everyone! Enjoy. If you like subscribe and follow me, I'm gonna do a lot of new songs in the future!
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Very nice, but unfortunately Rafal Blechacz has you beat. Badly. ;)
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Very nice, but unfortunately Rafal Blechacz has you beat. Badly. ;)
Thanks for your comment! By the quick search I couldn't find Blechacz's improvisations anywhere. Where could they can be found? Now I can see he playing just some 200 (!) years old songs... What kind of pianist is that... :)
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What kind of pianist is that... :)
A really, really good one.
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A really, really good one.
C'mon... Ok, maybe a pianist but I wouldn't consider myself as a real musician if I couldn't create something totally new! He's a wannabe. He'd want to be Chopin. Yes, he plays very well but the difference between he and the 100 others isn't that huge.
I haven't listened much about classical or the piano music but my favourite piano player is (was) probably Claudio Arrau. Blechacz is far away from his performance and touch... Listen and compare. Also there are dozens that can do the same than Blechacz...
When I've got 10.000 subscribers I promise to learn some Chopin and do it better than Blechacz ;)
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Listen and compare.
If you know me at all, you will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I have "listened and compared" all too much.
I promise learn some Chopin and do it better than Blechacz ;)
(https://littlefun.org/uploads/5132624c0000000000000000_736.jpg)
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Ok.. I stop when you seemingly not.
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I'm sorry to say, but you're not really doing anything new either.
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I'm sorry to say, but you're not really doing anything new either.
I'd like to hear if someone can find anything that is even close to the style I play with. I couldn't have found anything. But maybe you need to wait a moment and a couple of new songs for getting deeper into it.
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Piano Man, the one thing I really admire about you is your humility.
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Mate, you've already gotten yourself ready to be lynched by titling your topic "The World's Best Pianist", which you definitely are not.
As far as improvising being necessary to be a musician (which I disagree with anyways), go into the world of jazz and you'll have your arse handed to you on a silver platter by people like Art Tatum.
Also, hate to be that guy, but Rafal Blechacz isn't playing 200 year old songs, not to my knowledge at least. I don't believe Chopin ever wrote any aside from the Polish folk songs, but even those don't have a vocal part, to my knowledge ;)
That said, you don't have to create new music to be a musician.
Here's the definition of "musician" from Google-
"a person who plays a musical instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented.
" 'your father was a fine musician' "
If you want to make your own personal definition of musician include being able to write and improvise new music, then by all means do so, but don't act like that is suddenly the gold standard for musicians around the globe, many of whom are far better than you, my friend.
Cheers!
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Piano Man, the one thing I really admire about you is your humility.
If you know me at all, you will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that actually I am pretty humble man. ;) Or maybe not, it depends on how you want to see.
Sometimes you just need to provoke slightly to get an attention. Also certain words guarantee better search results on Youtube.
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If you know me at all, you will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that actually I am pretty humble
...coming from his own mouth.
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If you know me at all, you will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that actually I am pretty humble man. ;) Or maybe not, it depends on how you want to see.
Protip: If you say you're humble, you're no longer humble because boasting about your strengths is the exact opposite of humility.
Sometimes you just need to provoke slightly to get an attention. Also certain words guarantee better search results on Youtube.
Yes, and you certainly got attention here; but what kind of attention do you really want?
Besides, by putting yourself up to the "World's Best Pianist", you've set up your audience to expect something magical.
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Mate, you've already gotten yourself ready to be lynched by titling your topic "The World's Best Pianist", which you definitely are not.
Maybe not yet. Maybe never if I don't believe so. I'd say it doesn't matter at all if the music is good enough, most of the people do understand that maybe he'd want to be or maybe he's just provoking for getting attension.
If you want to make your own personal definition of musician include being able to write and improvise new music, then by all means do so, but don't act like that is suddenly the gold standard for musicians around the globe, many of whom are far better than you, my friend.
Cheers!
Yea, I was talking about the real musicians. :) Everything really depends on the definition.
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...coming from his own mouth.
Haha. I copy pasted it deliberately for you. :) I thought you'd have got it.
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Protip: If you say you're humble, you're no longer humble because boasting about your strengths is the exact opposite of humility.
Yes, and you certainly got attention here; but what kind of attention do you really want?
Besides, by putting yourself up to the "World's Best Pianist", you've set up your audience to expect something magical.
Answer: Yes, I know what you mean. You mean that the message does not seem as a humble text. But necessarily it doesn't mean that I wouldn't be a humble man in the reality.
It's good if the audience is even waiting for something. Normally the audience is waiting nothing for a decent piano song on Youtube... I think I'd barely have got an attension with the video with my own name... See this thread? Everything went as designed.
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See this thread? Everything went as designed.
So, loads of subscribers then?
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So, loads of subscribers then?
Lol. No one wants to be the first one. Do it and subscribe, maybe then someone else will dare do the same.
Btw, is it enough humble now when I added "Ok, maybe I'm not the best yet, but I'll never be if I don't believe so! If I don't believe, no one believes I could be..." in the description? I think so.
There are youtubers with hundreds of thousands of subscribers only with bad piano covers so...
Thanks for the support.
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You never will be the best or anything approaching that - why don't you start from that premise? Surely more realistic?
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You never will be the best or anything approaching that - why don't you start from that premise? Surely more realistic?
Why couldn't one be the best? What about if I knew I will be it one day?
Of course I know it sounds pretty unrealistic. What about if it isn't my ego that requires me to be the best, but I'd just know I'll be.
Can you see the future? Can anyone see the future if you can't? How can you know about that? Would anyone tell you about he can, if he'd know what's the reaction of others?
Is there even the future?
Do I sound insane? Am I insane?
Whose perspective is the right one?
Btw, I'm not any more "The World's Best Pianist". Now I can be found as the Blue Note Pianist on Youtube.
It was bad, but it was what I wanted.
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Are you even aware of the importance of Blue Note? What it means?
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Are you even aware of the importance of Blue Note? What it means?
Why are you challenging me? Why couldn't my artist name be the Blue Note Pianist, if I mostly play on the hexatonic blues scale, where the blue note is very essential issue. Then I think it is very apposite artist name for me.
Since I'm creating something new, I don't care much about the theory or how things should be. If you listen, the chord pattern is going my own way and I like it. I'm not trying to be a blues artist, although I'm playing on the blues scale.
I don't know anything about the blues/jazz -theory. I'm gonna do the things on my own way and what sounds good for me. Maybe I'll look some issues from there at some point, but I don't want to be considered as a blues or jazz player.
The music theory has nothing to do with the music from my perspective. Anything can be music, even the noice of the city. Even though, the other people think so, that's why I can choose a name which is related to the theory.
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Theory doesn't set limits, nor tell you what you can or can't do, with the exception of some styles of counterpoint (which I doubt you'd ever use anyways).
Theory is there to help guide and help you decide what harmonies you want.
Does proper grammar prevent you from making your own words up? No, quite the contrary; it teaches you the basic building blocks all the other words are made up of so you can take your own creative approach to it and make your new words well thought out and well articulated.
Same thing with theory, really.
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Theory doesn't set limits, nor tell you what you can or can't do, with the exception of some styles of counterpoint (which I doubt you'd ever use anyways).
Theory is there to help guide and help you decide what harmonies you want.
Does proper grammar prevent you from making your own words up? No, quite the contrary; it teaches you the basic building blocks all the other words are made up of so you can take your own creative approach to it and make your new words well thought out and well articulated.
Same thing with theory, really.
Yeap, that's all true. And that's why I said I'll be maybe looking some things from there. Or maybe not.
But there is also the subconsciously layer on this issue. If you've learned and listened the blues for your whole life time, it very often set the limits for creating something totally new.
The more you can get your mind off from anything you've ever learned, the better. I mean, the consciously mind. Normally it may be hard.
I already know how the blues and the jazz harmonies sound, and I like more this plain hexatonic. It sounds for me like it'd be a solo the whole song. I can't find this from the blues.
I still think no one has done anything like that.
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"You want to free your mind about a concept of harmony and of music being correct,
You can do whatever you want.
So nobody told me what to do, and there was no preconception of what to do."
Lyrics of Daft Punk - Giorgio By Moroder
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Still waiting for the relaxing part
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It's a nice improvisation. I can tell just from the beginning notes.
However, it is important to be humble, even when you have new ideas. You can certainly say "I sincerely think no one has ever done this before," and if you're trying to sell some product, you can say that strongly and emphasize it all you want. But to call yourself "the best pianist?" It doesn't work like that in music; Apple can call themselves "the best," but everyone knows that music is subjective... so if you call yourself the "best," most people will question it and 2) it's probably not true and it doesn't mean that you can't continue improving
So nice job on your improvising/musical philosophy/etc. you just have to work with the way you "market" and deal with people
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It's a nice improvisation. I can tell just from the beginning notes.
However, it is important to be humble, even when you have new ideas. You can certainly say "I sincerely think no one has ever done this before," and if you're trying to sell some product, you can say that strongly and emphasize it all you want. But to call yourself "the best pianist?" It doesn't work like that in music; Apple can call themselves "the best," but everyone knows that music is subjective... so if you call yourself the "best," most people will question it and 2) it's probably not true and it doesn't mean that you can't continue improving
So nice job on your improvising/musical philosophy/etc. you just have to work with the way you "market" and deal with people
Thanks for the best comment so far. As said I was consciously provoking a bit to get what I wanted and probably needed...
I will definitely continue my path but maybe a little more humble way... Now it's said I'm the best by myself. This was needed to do right at the beginning, so these comments can be read after 10-20 years.
I'm learning to deal with the people and the world, every day. Too often people don't get me. Obviously they can't get inside my head, which I have noticed only now after almost 30 years. I think my brain works very different way than others.
I'll continue and one day people will see who I am. I know how this sound but I can't say anything else. Unfortunately no one can get me at this time.
I'm very aware there are probably thousands of people who think the same about them self and will never become anything. I'm totally aware how the others react to that kind of people. But still every one would say the same than me in the same situation than me. Of course this isn't possible, because there isn't anything else than that is experienced at the moment.
If I haven't ever said I'm the best, after 20 years people would think that somehow he just became what he is. If I say that I'm the best at the beginning, after 20 years people will know that I was born to be the best and I knew it at this point.
Big words I know, but this is me :)
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OMG that was BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world needs more famous pianists like you.
It sucks that clowns like Lang Lang and Hamelin have become so famous, but barely anyone has heard of pianists such as the great Pierre Buzon.
Have you heard of Pierre Buzon? He is a jazz improvising pianist, but he does a different subgenre of jazz.
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Please don't encourage him... he doesn't need it. ::)
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Please don't encourage him... he doesn't need it. ::)
Please don't encourage him... he doesn't need it. ::)
I wasn't encouraging him, I was just advertising to him about Pierre Buzon.
Besides, I think the music he plays is far better than the Chopinzee junk you play ::) ::)
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OMG that was BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The world needs more famous pianists like you.
It sucks that clowns like Lang Lang and Hamelin have become so famous, but barely anyone has heard of pianists such as the great Pierre Buzon.
Have you heard of Pierre Buzon? He is a jazz improvising pianist, but he does a different subgenre of jazz.
Thank you!
No, I haven't. I listened a few his songs from Youtube and liked more than most of the classical. Though the classical is pretty wide range of music. Buzon do well and maybe he would be more popular if he had more soul in his playing. Of course many other factors affect.
So far only Claudio Arraus's interpretations has managed to satisfy properly my ears... There are also some other good players. For me it's pretty hard to listen to the piano music if the player has a moderate touch, regardless of the genre. But I haven't explored this issue too much, maybe there can be found also some other players even with a better expression and touch. Unfortunately the earliest piano recordings with a good sound quality are somewhere from 70s or 80s?
It would be nice to hear how the best players did in 1800s. The modern culture has destroyed the people's souls. Or the connection to it. No matter how you consider a term soul.
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Thank you!
No, I haven't. I listened a few his songs from Youtube and liked more than most of the classical. Though the classical is pretty wide range of music. Buzon do well and maybe he would be more popular if he had more soul in his playing. Of course many other factors affect.
So far only Claudio Arraus's interpretations has managed to satisfy properly my ears... There are also some other good players. For me it's pretty hard to listen to the piano music if the player has a moderate touch, regardless of the genre. But I haven't explored this issue too much, maybe there can be found also some other players even with a better expression and touch. Unfortunately the earliest piano recordings with a good sound quality are somewhere from 70s or 80s?
It would be nice to hear how the best players did in 1800s. The modern culture has destroyed the people's souls. Or the connection to it. No matter how you consider a term soul.
Arrau is AWESOME.
I would also recommend Grigory Sokolov. He has an amazing touch, and most of his playing has great expression.
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I would also recommend Grigory Sokolov. He has an amazing touch, and most of his playing has great expression.
Thanks, he is very impressive. I have been listening music on Spotify and he's not as popular as some others there. Maybe that's why I haven't heard.
I also love the last song you posted, ever heard about Jean-Philippe Rameau. I'm totally newbie on what comes to the classical music or other piano music. At the moment I haven't been listening much about those but when I do again, definitely I need to listen more about that pianist and find out more about this composer.
I can hear some similar harmonies in that song than in Rachmaninoff's piano concertos, which I love.
The first song, Chopin's prelude sucks. I promise my next improvisation will be better... The Rachmaninoff's prelude isn't much better either. Can't get why people are listening those... Just because they are composed by a well-known composer?
Ok.. the second to last minute of the Rachmaninoff's prelude was good.
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Thanks, he is very impressive. I have been listening music on Spotify and he's not as popular as some others there. Maybe that's why I haven't heard.
I also love the last song you posted, ever heard about Jean-Philippe Rameau. I'm totally newbie on what comes to the classical music or other piano music. At the moment I haven't been listening much about those but when I do again, definitely I need to listen more about that pianist and find out more about this composer.
I can hear some similar harmonies in that song than in Rachmaninoff's piano concertos, which I love.
The first song, Chopin's prelude sucks. I promise my next improvisation will be better... The Rachmaninoff's prelude isn't much better either. Can't get why people are listening those... Just because they are composed by a well-known composer?
Ok.. the second to last minute of the Rachmaninoff's prelude was good.
Yes, I understand. I didn't like the Rachmaninoff nor the Chopin Preludes either when I was not as experienced in the classical genre of music.
It just is so much worse than jazz!
But once I got used to classical music, I couldn't take those pieces off my mind ???
Whenever I do jazz, I feel weird doing classical afterwords because jazz is so much more natural (usually). I don't like Art Tatum's improvs though.
Yeah Rachmaninoff is beast.
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The next one is ready https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=59767.0
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I'll bite.
You basically sit in the same harmonic framework for the entire duration. Where is this improvisation going? What are you trying to say with it? It's actually tiring to the ears. Considering your statements on not needing to know music theory and blah blah, I'm not surprised to find this to be the case.
Overall it sounds like something I might hear in a doctor's office waiting room, or elevator, or watching the Weather Channel.
Also apropos, given your attitude:
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png)
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I think you have a really "real" and positive outlook, which other people are misinterpreting as being delusional/arrogant. People seem to think famous pianists are godlike and exist on a whole different plane just because they're good enough to be well known. I guess the fact that you don't is aggravating.
The things you have posted may be opinionated/provocative, but I don't think they're dishonest about your ability (being one of those all talk sc*mbags). There are people who mislead themselves and others about their skills, but I don't think you're one of them.
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I think you have a really "real" and positive outlook, which other people are misinterpreting as being delusional/arrogant. People seem to think famous pianists are godlike and exist on a whole different plane just because they're good enough to be well known. I guess the fact that you don't is aggravating.
OMG IKR
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Tenk has been the only one to highlight the 'structure' of the piece presented..
With the first link provided, the LH is on a 2 bar loop.. using Fminor7 (iv) Gminor7 (v) and Cminor7 (i)…Takes about 8 seconds. repeats (pretty much exactly) for 24 times to so.. To compound this, the rh is pretty constrained in what it does as well...
Though being unaware of this, doesn't mean it is not (doggedly) there.
P-man… you may benefit from someone bothering to mention this.. You might look into some basic theory, if for nothing else, but to be aware from a 'literary' sense of what you are doing.
good luck..
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Tenk has been the only one to highlight the 'structure' of the piece presented..
With the first link provided, the LH is on a 2 bar loop.. using Fminor7 (iv) Gminor7 (v) and Cminor7 (i)…Takes about 8 seconds. repeats (pretty much exactly) for 24 times to so..
Though being unaware of this, doesn't mean it is not (doggedly) there.
P-man… you may benefit from someone bothering to mention this.. You might look into some basic theory, if for nothing else, but to be aware from a 'literary' sense of what you are doing.
good luck..
You're back!
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HI THEME!!
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Hey, HI !
justa momentary pop in… :)
(things seem to have 'quieted down' a bit.. :)
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Hey, HI !
justa momentary pop in… :)
Don't leave us! :'( PS' environment is once more civilized again (except in the topic "The Chinese Czerny Scam", where a PS member decided to insult Asians and Australians and blacks.)
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thank you Rubinsteinmad… I will drop in from time to time.. I know you and Noah are keeping the fire going :)
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Hey theme!
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Hi AJ!
Big Brass fanfare to you for 2nd place in that Chopin competition! Fantastic!
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Hi AJ!
Big Brass fanfare to you for 2nd place in that Chopin competition! Fantastic!
Theme stop. You're just making it even worse when you leave again. Don't leave this time!! Things have really changed. Ky piano and kevon have mostly left, Emily is quite tame, and I have cut back on unrelated posts... ;)
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Thanks so much theme! I appreciate it. Hope you've been doing well
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Theme stop. You're just making it even worse when you leave again. Don't leave this time!! Things have really changed. Ky piano and kevon have mostly left, Emily is quite tame, and I have cut back on unrelated posts... ;)
Tame??? Who tamed me???
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Tame??? Who tamed me???
Me and AJ. Obviously.
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Me and AJ. Obviously.
Oh
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Emily don't be so sad
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I guess I'll never be a Tiger Mom then.
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I guess I'll never be a Tiger Mom then.
Wait, I can be a tamed tiger
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Wait, I can be a tamed tiger
He is not a tame lion.
No, but he is good.
Who can tell me the reference first?
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wizard of oz.
Noah go check my most recent pm
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wizard of oz.
Noah go check my most recent pm
Its not nice to talk behind men's backs.
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WIZARD OF OZ?!?! What are you, a homeschooler? Oh, wait... ;D Nope. Guess again.
YAY THAT'S POST 1000 I'M AT 1000 POSTS YAY YAY YAY YAY LET'S HAVE A PARTY YES HORRAY
Much different than chopinlover's 1000th post lol
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WIZARD OF OZ?!?! What are you, a homeschooler? Oh, wait... ;D Nope. Guess again.
YAY THAT'S POST 1000 I'M AT 1000 POSTS YAY YAY YAY YAY LET'S HAVE A PARTY YES HORRAY
Much different than chopinlover's 1000th post lol
Narnia. So obvious.
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Narnia. So obvious.
Good work, child.
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Please do not flood this thread full of sh*t. Maybe you should establish a channel on IRC to chat. There were three good posts and I'll answer them soon.
Edit: On later today
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Please do not flood this thread full of sh*t. Maybe you should establish a channel on IRC to chat. There were three good posts and I'll answer them soon.
Edit: On later today
We are sorry if we have caused thee any discomfort, o grand exalted master!!
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You basically sit in the same harmonic framework for the entire duration. Where is this improvisation going? What are you trying to say with it? It's actually tiring to the ears. Considering your statements on not needing to know music theory and blah blah, I'm not surprised to find this to be the case.
Overall it sounds like something I might hear in a doctor's office waiting room, or elevator, or watching the Weather Channel.
Also apropos, given your attitude:
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png)
Yeah, the harmonic framework on the chords is same that in the blues music. Only the pattern is different than normally. The improvisation comes from the melodies played by the right hand. The right hand plays only the hexatonic scale, on where is played all the solos in metal/rock, which normally are the best part of the song!
Even if you had played thousand of different chords in your improvisation song, it wouldn't make better the improvisation itself if there isn't any melody created. You can find thousands of songs of this kind on Youtube. You just have been taught what is "real" music and you also have learned it unconsciously. When you can hear the harmonies from the classical music, you automatically see it more as "real music". Everything is just learning in the life. Human beings are like biological computers. Those who have been listening jazz/blues/rock/heavy are more likely to like my songs.
Check a moderate improvisation on Youtube and then ask the same question. If you listen carefully, and try not to set your brain as a limit for listening, you can see that in a moderate improvisation there's not much melody at all. Only scales/chords played up and down. If some melody can be found, normally they are variations of some known pieces.
I didn't say you don't need to know anything about music theory. If you read the posts again what I wrote about that, maybe you can get it. At this point please use your brain.
About that picture you posted: I'm not telling I'm the only conscious person on the planet. Can you even realize that in depth? It's totally ego based idea what it is reflecting, everyone of those see the other as they want to see. They can't get into others mind, so they want to think they are the only one who can understand.
There are many layers on this issue. If you can't understand how you work by yourself, how you could understand others? Even by posting a picture like that and telling it's my attitude, you are just telling about your self. When you really get in the level where you really understand things, you are not anymore acting like the people on the picture. You don't anymore care about others and criticize them even at the level of thought.
Can you see the layers on this issue? 1: You are one with a head full of fog and don't even think about those things. 2: You are one who thinks he's conscious enough and the others not. This is actually same than the first one if you think it more deeply. 3: You know the others do whatever they do and don't care about (criticize) it even at the level of thought. And this is again close to the first one... Just going with the head full of fog.
Only the perspective changes, the ego takes only a different form. Quite paradoxical I think.
I think you have a really "real" and positive outlook, which other people are misinterpreting as being delusional/arrogant. People seem to think famous pianists are godlike and exist on a whole different plane just because they're good enough to be well known. I guess the fact that you don't is aggravating.
The things you have posted may be opinionated/provocative, but I don't think they're dishonest about your ability (being one of those all talk sc*mbags). There are people who mislead themselves and others about their skills, but I don't think you're one of them.
This is probably what I think the most. If I bought a grand piano, wear a dress suit and played classical harmonic scales (or cover songs) with a very moderate touch (or a moderate arrangement) and without much melody, people would love it. Oh, also a full hd video resolution and edited properly.
Now when it is only VGA resolution, and I play with "wrong" harmonies/patterns, anything else doesn't matter anymore. As I said, you could get hundreds of thousands of hits and subscribers with bad cover songs... This is how the human brain works.
If one day I would be "world's best pianist", automatically then those my two first songs would be something incredible for anyone. Anyone would swear he can hear my genius in those songs. You see and hear what you want to see and what you have taught.
If the "incredible improvisation pianists" on Youtube really were incredible, they would do hundreds of those incredible improvisations. Now when they really can't improvise in reality, there are only one "incredible improvisation".
Tenk has been the only one to highlight the 'structure' of the piece presented..
With the first link provided, the LH is on a 2 bar loop.. using Fminor7 (iv) Gminor7 (v) and Cminor7 (i)…Takes about 8 seconds. repeats (pretty much exactly) for 24 times to so.. To compound this, the rh is pretty constrained in what it does as well...
Though being unaware of this, doesn't mean it is not (doggedly) there.
P-man… you may benefit from someone bothering to mention this.. You might look into some basic theory, if for nothing else, but to be aware from a 'literary' sense of what you are doing.
good luck..
Yes I already know this all. As said, the chords are same than in the blues music but the pattern is different and pretty simple. I will do songs with different patterns, but I like very much that one I use now. From the picture below you can see the most common patterns for the blues music.
I wouldn't say the right hand is constrained at all... Not in either of those my two songs. There can be found thousands of (classical) songs which are very, very constrained compared to those. I really believe that you only want to see it as constrained at this point.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Standard_12-bar_blues_progression_variations.png/600px-Standard_12-bar_blues_progression_variations.png)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-bar_blues
BTW: For me it seems that this all is some kind of threat to the classical music for some of you. Of course I was provoking at the beginning to get attention, and here's the result. A lot of debate, which is good. I think that this is the best start to start conquer the world ;)
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That was quite the post.
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P-man,
(though against my better judgment, i'll persist one last time)
'Batman' theme and a billion others have adopted the cliched 12 bar loop (the chords in your graph in root position) but at least the loop is 12 bars. Yours loop is 2.. Kind of akin to standing in place while spinning. (if the Mm. is 60 per quarter; at best it would be a 4 bar if the beat 120… but since you say it is 'relaxing', i think we must deduce it as 2 bars.)… Also, In appropriating the 12 bar structure, the improvising rh is to be set free, as it were. You call what you did with the rh improvising?
I can tell that you seem quite set on defending your position; that is fine.. Have at it, and good luck.. (i however am done responding)
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Visitor, exactly. Stay out of it if you know what's good for you.
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Visitor, exactly. Stay out of it if you know what's good for you.
ok. i guess i'll mullett over
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Thank you Theme -- you said it more succinctly (and nicer) than I would have. So I'll just leave these here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulation_%28music%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_substitution
Be sure to let us all know when you hit the big time P-man
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P-man,
(though against my better judgment, i'll persist one last time)
'Batman' theme and a billion others have adopted the cliched 12 bar loop (the chords in your graph in root position) but at least the loop is 12 bars. Yours loop is 2.. Kind of akin to standing in place while spinning. (if the Mm. is 60 per quarter; at best it would be a 4 bar if the beat 120… but since you say it is 'relaxing', i think we must deduce it as 2 bars.)… Also, In appropriating the 12 bar structure, the improvising rh is to be set free, as it were. You call what you did with the rh improvising?
I can tell that you seem quite set on defending your position; that is fine.. Have at it, and good luck.. (i however am done responding)
You are concentrating on numbers on the screen, because you want to find something that is wrong. Nothing is wrong. 12 bar loop is not any better than 2. No listener is concentrating on these issues. People want to listen good music, they don't care about if there is 2 or 3 bar loop going.
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People want to listen good music,
Which is exactly why your video has 0 likes and 4 dislikes.
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Which is exactly why your video has 0 likes and 4 dislikes.
Some people like some not. It's easier to dislike. You don't know how your brain work. Do you think I care about that? No. For me it's pretty funny when every one here is behaving like a teenager after my provoking. I know what I'm capable of, and if it is some problem that there is a 2 or 4 bar loop and it's a good reason to dislike then go ahead.
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every one here is behaving like a teenager
I am a teenager. And I'm proud of it.
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every one here is behaving like a teenager
Thank you so much! I'm so proud I behave more mature than the rest of the people my age! I'm turning a teen in a few months, and I cant wait, but I really appreciate that someone thinks I already behave like a teen.
Again, thank you! :-*
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Thank you so much! I'm so proud I behave more mature than the rest of the people my age! I'm turning a teen in a few months, and I cant wait, but I really appreciate that someone thinks I already behave like a teen.
Again, thank you! :-*
Couldn't have believed you're so young. Obviously your behavior will change then ;) Maybe worse.
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Something different.
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Blue Note Pianist? *facepalm*
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Blue Note Pianist? *facepalm*
Thanks.
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Blue Note Pianist? *facepalm*
what does "Blue Note" mean? :P
it sounds cool... is it just not very humble, like "The World's Best Pianist?"
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Something different.
I'm sorry but frankly... this was quite tiring to listen to, with the repeated chord in the right hand and the "looping" chord progression (even though you did vary the rhythm) :/
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I'm sorry but frankly... this was quite tiring to listen to, with the repeated chord in the right hand and the "looping" chord progression (even though you did vary the rhythm) :/
Try to listen again and get used to it.
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Try to listen again and get used to it.
I liked the 1st improvisation better, just saying. Even though the 3rd was great and all, the 1st was a groundbreaker.
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I liked the 1st improvisation better, just saying. Even though the 3rd was great and all, the 1st was a groundbreaker.
Thanks :) Yes, I also like the first one most. I had a pretty good mood when I improvised it so got a good flow. On that night I improvised also two other pieces, which are the same style. The other one of those I like even more than the first one. I will publish it later but the melody from the other one I may be recording again if I can.
It's pretty much just let out my emotions when I do these, so can't do those kind of improvisations one per week... At least not at the moment. Though what I personally think is that the first is just a little fraction of my whole potential... I'm going through a some kind of process with myself and I don't know how long this takes but after a year or two I'll be on a whole new level.
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I'm going through a some kind of process with myself and I don't know how long this takes but after a year or two I'll be on a whole new level.
I cant wait! Make sure to upload those!
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On a whole new level of cockiness?
Have fun.
As for your third improv, it's even more incredibly boring and repetitive than the first.
You're not saying anything with your music, though you're trying to say with your mouth how amazing and groundbreaking your music is, when you have no clue what you're talking about.
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I'd like to hear if someone can find anything that is even close to the style I play with. I couldn't have found anything. But maybe you need to wait a moment and a couple of new songs for getting deeper into it.
You can't find anyone with your style that is correct. Only because no one would want your style. Blechacz may not make something new but he plays much more interesting things than you.
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I cant wait! Make sure to upload those!
I will. :)
On a whole new level of cockiness?
Maybe, depends on your perspective. Was Jesus cocky when he told he's son of God.
At least on a whole new level in the music. This I can promise because I've been there. It is directly proportional to the mental state or mood, so I guess maybe I won't be as cocky then...
You can't find anyone with your style that is correct. Only because no one would want your style. Blechacz may not make something new but he plays much more interesting things than you.
Only because no one has ever could create something like that. And still can't. I suppose you know that there are a lot of styles in music that some like and the others not.
It seems some are interested...
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Maybe, depends on your perspective. Was Jesus cocky when he told he's son of God.
At least he was telling the truth! ::)
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3 minutes of this nonsense? Brutal. No number of listens will help me "get used to it".
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WHY is there still conversation about these improvisations? The OP thinks they are extraordinary, has found one member that likes them and is content. Other posts that have recommendations for change have been rejected.
Isn't this a case of 'beating a dead horse'? IMHO
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WHY is there still conversation about these improvisations? The OP thinks they are extraordinary, has found one member that likes them and is content. Other posts that have recommendations for change have been rejected.
Isn't this a case of 'beating a dead horse'? IMHO
or is this "much ado over nothing" ?? :(
As a non-pianist, I do not find his playing style "unpleasant" as others do or say they do.
But frankly, if my opinion is valued I would say I will not come back for seconds but at the
same time I would stay until the show ends. ;D
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The OP thinks they are extraordinary, has found one member that likes them and is content.
More than one. ;D Not everyone who like want to write on this thread...
As a non-pianist, I do not find his playing style "unpleasant" as others do or say they do.
Thanks.
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pardon me, passing through.
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As a non-pianist, I do not find his playing style "unpleasant" as others do or say they do.
I agree. Some music conservatists/puritans/classical-music-supremaciststs think that no music should be heard on this world except for classical music. These people are usually people who've been studying classical music, exclusively, for a long time. They refuse to look at new ideas, proning them to failure. (Look at Chinese history; Western ideas were basically censored by the Manchu invaders, and therefore China became one of the least technologically advanced Far-Eastern countries by the 1900s. Also, the communists decided they would censor Western ideas, as well, and then all of the brightest Chinese minds immigrated to the West :P )
Me, I kind of don't treat non-classical pianists/composers (i.e. Brian Crain, Paul de Sennivile, Olivier Touissant, Yiruma, etc.) as "great", when I actually stop to actually think, here is what I think. Music was probably made to create beauty, as well as preventing boredom. Many "great" classical compsoers of the 21st century write music that is plain ugly, defying that purpose of music. However, this Blue Note person creates beauty, unlike those modern "classical"compsoers.
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I just gave it another listen, it was just a whole 'nother layer...
Maybe, depends on your perspective. Was Jesus cocky when he told he's son of God.
At least on a whole new level in the music. This I can promise because I've been there. It is directly proportional to the mental state or mood, so I guess maybe I won't be as cocky then...
Though I promised not to respond to these kinds of things, I'm going to make a blanket statement of "thou shalt not proclaim thyself to be the son of God without sufficient evidence".
hint: he didn't
A whole new level in the music? You said the third was a whole new level, it was nothing but annoying chords being drilled into my head.
You try to make statements about "freeing your mind" and "I don't need theory" and all the rest, and yet you're the one that has yet to free your own mind to the concept of theory.
It seems some are interested...
One of them not being a pianist.
If you want groundbreaking music, I like this. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mKsNTh4Kw)
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this.
OH YEAH ZIMERMAN!
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If you want groundbreaking music, I like this.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mKsNTh4Kw)
YASS!!! ZIMERMAN IS THE BOMB AT THIS CONCERTO (AND MOST OTHER CONCERTOS) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Oh, and he's overcome adversity when playing with an AMERICAN ORCHESTRA!!!!! :o
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Everybody else takes that movement slower than I prefer- mostly because they can't.
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I agree. Some music conservatists/puritans/classical-music-supremaciststs think that no music should be heard on this world except for classical music. These people are usually people who've been studying classical music, exclusively, for a long time. They refuse to look at new ideas, proning them to failure. (Look at Chinese history; Western ideas were basically censored by the Manchu invaders, and therefore China became one of the least technologically advanced Far-Eastern countries by the 1900s. Also, the communists decided they would censor Western ideas, as well, and then all of the brightest Chinese minds immigrated to the West :P )
Me, I kind of don't treat non-classical pianists/composers (i.e. Brian Crain, Paul de Sennivile, Olivier Touissant, Yiruma, etc.) as "great", when I actually stop to actually think, here is what I think. Music was probably made to create beauty, as well as preventing boredom. Many "great" classical compsoers of the 21st century write music that is plain ugly, defying that purpose of music. However, this Blue Note person creates beauty, unlike those modern "classical"compsoers.
hehheee ;D ... I've read some of your posts and it is becoming more difficult to believe that your are almost a teen or yet to become one very soon, as you claim. It's either you are pulling our leg or your are a reincarnate! ;D Or was that someone else's post I read? OMG, another senior moment? :( :o ::) :P
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You said the third was a whole new level
I didn't. I said it's something different.
You try to make statements about "freeing your mind" and "I don't need theory"
Please read my posts again, maybe then you understand. Now you understand them as you want to understand them. I think you have totally misunderstood almost everything I've written.
I'm not going to explain again, I did as well as I can. Not my problem if you really can't understand.
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I can hear some similar harmonies in that song than in Rachmaninoff's piano concertos, which I love.
If you want groundbreaking music, I like this.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8mKsNTh4Kw)
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YASS!!! ZIMERMAN IS THE BOMB AT THIS CONCERTO (AND MOST OTHER CONCERTOS) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
OH YEAH ZIMERMAN!
I thought the point was the Rachmaninoff's piano concerto, not the player.
Zimerman does nothing special. Actually I like much more this:
Both are on Spotify if you want to compare them with better quality.
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I thought the point was the Rachmaninoff's piano concerto, not the player.
Zimerman does nothing special. Actually I like much more this:
Both are on Spotify if you want to compare them with better quality.
I don't have time to listen to it now, but I like Zimerman. I like Leif Ove Andsnes, too, though. However, I usually don't listen to him playing anything except Grieg. I have a EMI CD by him!!!! (But what's the point of CD's, right? :'( )
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hehheee ;D ... I've read some of your posts and it is becoming more difficult to believe that your are almost a teen or yet to become one very soon, as you claim. It's either you are pulling our leg or your are a reincarnate! ;D Or was that someone else's post I read? OMG, another senior moment? :( :o ::) :P
Hhaha, that is what I think all the time. Too sharp for a 7-grader
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Hhaha, that is what I think all the time. Too sharp for a 7-grader
Well thanks. I take that as a compliment ::)
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NOT ANOTHER ONE! quit it!
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Do you mind telling me what the notes of your "hexatonic" scale are?
I am starting to have trouble telling the difference between your "novel concept" and the blues scale. And the blues scale has been around since the beginning of jazz...
& even if you have an interesting scale, it's best not to slavishly adhere to it when improvising. (A creative process is different from merely knowing the notes of a scale and manipulating it.)
To give you some constructive feedback though, this one is a lot more complex than the previous ones; the technique you use to employ the "imitation" is commendable.
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Do you mind telling me what the notes of your "hexatonic" scale are?
I am starting to have trouble telling the difference between your "novel concept" and the blues scale. And the blues scale has been around since the beginning of jazz...
& even if you have an interesting scale, it's best not to slavishly adhere to it when improvising. (A creative process is different from merely knowing the notes of a scale and manipulating it.)
To give you some constructive feedback though, this one is a lot more complex than the previous ones; the technique you use to employ the "imitation" is commendable.
it's known as the jazz or jazz blues scale.. 6 notes.(hexa-tonic) in C it's C Eb F G Gb Bb--it's been around forever. The idea is perhaps not so novel but his improvisations are quite nice and I am sure as he matures they will acquire more form and direction. He's off to a fantastic start.
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it's known as the jazz or jazz blues scale.. 6 notes.(hexa-tonic) in C it's C Eb F G Gb Bb--it's been around forever. The idea is perhaps not so novel but his improvisations are quite nice and I am sure as he matures they will acquire more form and direction. He's off to a fantastic start.
Yes, I know this actually, from middle school jazz band; everyone's solos were based off the blues scale, because for us it was kind of a "quick and easy way" to sound good.
I was asking at first because the OP said that his improvisations were in a style "never heard before" and he kept proclaiming how significant it was that he used this "hexatonic scale." Basically, I was asking "isn't this just the blues scale?"
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"never heard before" and he kept proclaiming how significant it was that he used this "hexatonic scale." Basically, I was asking "isn't this just the blues scale?"
yes it's just the blues scale. :) I am not sure what the OP means by "never heard before" because really anyone who is improvising is technically playing something never heard before. The significance of the blues hexatonic scale--(because there is more than 1 hexatonic scale so it needs to be clarified) is confusing as well... it's been in common usage for more than a century.
but he's having a good time.. so that's cool. :)
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To give you some constructive feedback though, this one is a lot more complex than the previous ones; the technique you use to employ the "imitation" is commendable.
Please show me the "original". There's no one else who play with my style (not the scale). But there are hundreds of thousands of people who play with the common blues style. I wouldn't say my music is blues, although the scale is the same. You can play pop and classical and electronic music on the same scale.
everyone's solos were based off the blues scale, because for us it was kind of a "quick and easy way" to sound good.
Normally the solos are the best part of the song. Using the exact scale doesn't tell anything about if it is easy or not. You can also play difficult songs or solos on this scale. What I play isn't easy. If you think so, you can try if you can do similar improvisations (or even songs by composing) by yourself. If you can't, you can try to play my improvisation songs and try if you can even get them sound similar.
I was asking at first because the OP said that his improvisations were in a style "never heard before" and he kept proclaiming how significant it was that he used this "hexatonic scale." Basically, I was asking "isn't this just the blues scale?"
Please don't misrepresent about what I've said. I've never said the scale is something new by itself. The style and the scale are two totally different issues... 8)
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to the OP this is the passage in question.
"I'm an improvisation pianist and composer from Europe. I had over ten years break of active playing and now I learned the hexatonic blues scale and started to improvise with my own very unique style. I'm pretty sure that no one has ever done anything like this, so this is something new for the world!"
...I think what Schumaniac is asking is what exactly makes your style something new for the whole world? What is the difference between your improvisations and everyone or anyone else's ?--pop melodies done in blues style have been done. Furthermore how did you determine that no one else is doing what you are doing? that's all he means.
I improvise too... :)
and there's more on the link below.
like I said technically all who improvise are playing something never heard before... but that is not what makes the solo unique. :)
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to the OP this is the passage in question.
"I'm an improvisation pianist and composer from Europe. I had over ten years break of active playing and now I learned the hexatonic blues scale and started to improvise with my own very unique style. I'm pretty sure that no one has ever done anything like this, so this is something new for the world!"
...I think what Schumaniac is asking is what exactly makes your style something new for the whole world? What is the difference between your improvisations and everyone or anyone else's ?--pop melodies done in blues style have been done. Furthermore how did you determine that no one else is doing what you are doing? that's all he means.
I improvise too... :)
and there's more on the link below.
like I said technically all who improvise are playing something never heard before... but that is not what makes the solo unique. :)
What I meant is that some my melodies sound pretty pop style. They are not taken from any known or composed song, they are fully improvised.
What makes my improvisations unique, are all together: my own melodies, my own rhythms, the whole style.
I don't use already composed tunes as you and many other do.
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Excuse me?
I played my improvisations for my friends and they didn't believe they are my own. That's why I haven't told them about my channel.
Now I came on the biggest piano forum in the Internet and here are some teenagers telling me "shut up"?
Where are the moderators of this forum??
Please don't pencilart3 write on this thread if you really don't have anything else to say.
I'm very disapointed at the moment.
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I'm very disapointed at the moment.
How? You are, after all, the world's best pianist.
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I don't use already composed tunes as you and many other do.
LOL.
I am going to just let that one go.. as I am 51 years old, a piano teacher, and a working jazz pianist. :) I am on your side... or I was anyway.
I am sorry that you found my question offensive because I didn't mean it that way. I was looking for something more specific than it's "all mine" -- if you say that this is something new for the world that no one else has done before I just thought you meant something other than because it was all yours. Your progression and your rhythms are very standard which is usually the case with young improvisers. Of course, you are free to make any claim you like...again I meant no disrespect. I said earlier I liked your improvisations.
so do you listen to any other pianists who improvise?
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How? You are, after all, the world's best pianist.
Yeah, musical genius. That's what I am. But when no one believes, it's pretty sad.
That's the reason why I started with provoking on here. I was and I still am very frustrated because of the situation.
More than for me, it's sad for the world. But I trust in the life. The beginning is always hard.
And improvisation by improvisation it's more and more a disgrace for everyone of you when you continue acting like you do.
I could go somewhere to perform, but I don't want publicity.
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so do you listen to any other pianists who improvise?
I've been trying to find out, but couldn't find anyone who improvise like me.
If you are a piano teacher, you can probably know some one who can do the same?
One improvisation song per week, right? At the same level than I do.
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Whose melodies are they if not mine? Here are 80k members on the forum and no one can find anything from anywhere?
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Yeah, musical genius. That's what I am. But when no one believes, it's pretty sad.
very disturbing... whether you meant it or not.
in what way have you been disrespected?
calling yourself the world's best pianist is bound to provoke a joke or snide comment--isn't that why you put it there?
posting that you are doing something brand new for the world musically is also bound to provoke inquiries as to exactly what you mean... why are you offended? no one has attacked you or your playing..
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Whose melodies are they if not mine? Here are 80k members on the forum and no one can find anything from anywhere?
no one is suggesting you are plagiarizing melodies...
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piano man I think chopin is a little better than you
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I got enough. If you don't get my points by reading my posts, it's sad and not my problem anymore.
Takes too much effort writing here every day same things. If you like then like if not then dislike. I'm gonna post the songs here in the future but probably not that much writing.
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pianoman.. when you use improvisation and something brand new in the same description it suggests that the something new is in addition to the improv.. that's why I asked.
as someone who has 1.7 million YT views--I can tell you that if you have any hope of surviving on the internet you must learn to not take things so personally. It's far easier to work with the piano community than against them.
you have a pretty big piano ego..
fully improvised blues and original artwork.. by me. no pre-composed melody...
can you improvise like me?
...and I don't mean that as a challenge--just as a response to your request that I tell you of someone who improvises like you.. It's not like you--it's like me..
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I got enough. If you don't get my points by reading my posts, it's sad and not my problem anymore.
Takes too much effort writing here every day same things. If you like then like if not then dislike. I'm gonna post the songs here in the future but probably not that much writing.
There is another piano forum on the internet with a composer's room where you post... BUT ONLY IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE YOU WANT MORE FEEDBACK. You can't go in, like you did here, with guns blazing stating you are the World's Best. The responses from members would make these look tame.
It appears, really, that you want no input from musicians, unless it is to hear how great you are-- really, even the 'greats' at anything always saw they could improve or use a different approach.
If you don't want input, what is your reasoning for posting more here rather than just sticking to YouTube or SoundCloud? The 'audition room' means just that to most members: audition. "Here is my current effort, any suggestions? "
Take or leave the advice.
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...and I don't mean that as a challenge--just as a response to your request that I tell you of someone who improvises like you.. It's not like you--it's like me..
It's like thousands of other blues players. Can't hear much difference.
There is another piano forum on the internet with a composer's room where you post... BUT ONLY IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE YOU WANT MORE FEEDBACK. You can't go in, like you did here, with guns blazing stating you are the World's Best. The responses from members would make these look tame.
https://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2469743/Blue_Note_Pianist's_incredible.html
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You have received no responses to your post, because it is posted in the wrong forum.
It should not go into 'parties/tours and more' but into the independent forum "Composer's Lounge"
From looking at your intro, leaving out World's Best' was a good idea of a beginning. I would recommend deleting 'no one has the same style'. Again, advice you can ignore. I don't care to argue this.
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Dogperson, I don't usually say this, but I completely agree 100% totally with the last 2 posts you just made ;)
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It's like thousands of other blues players. Can't hear much difference.
https://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2469743/Blue_Note_Pianist's_incredible.html
that's exactly my point--but it's still all mine and new to the world at the same time... Just because you are improvising doesn't mean it's new and different. :)
so now that we understand each other I am asking you what specifically sets your improvisation apart? what are the specific musical elements you use that say I don't... what makes yours different? what makes yours better?
now here's another of my improvisations more in the new age style..
it has 4 tracks I improvised and recorded already and I am playing along on the electric piano sound. That's five tracks of improvisation running together... guess I could call myself a musical genius too? why not? (please, I am asking for something other than your personal feelings about whether or not you "like" it)
tell me how yours differs from this.
btw, I am only trying to get you to think a little deeper about what sets your music apart... and to be a little more tolerant of other pianists. There's a whole lot of experience around here you could take advantage of.
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You have received no responses to your post, because it is posted in the wrong forum.
It should not go into 'parties/tours and more' but into the independent forum "Composer's Lounge"
From looking at your intro, leaving out World's Best' was a good idea of a beginning. I would recommend deleting 'no one has the same style'. Again, advice you can ignore. I don't care to argue this.
... and Projects --> Recordings. I don't think I'm composing, but maybe I make a thread there in the future.
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that's exactly my point--but it's still all mine and new to the world at the same time... Just because you are improvising doesn't mean it's new and different. :)
so now that we understand each other I am asking you what specifically sets your improvisation apart? what are the specific musical elements you use that say I don't... what makes yours different? what makes yours better?
now here's another of my improvisations more in the new age style..
it has 4 tracks I improvised and recorded already and I am playing along on the electric piano sound. That's five tracks of improvisation running together... guess I could call myself a musical genius too? why not?
tell me how yours differs from this.
btw, I am only trying to get you to think a little deeper about what sets your music apart.
Sorry I don't want to talk with you anymore at all. I'm sorry.
I'd also appreciate if you correct the quote you made on your post.
Thanks everyone for the tips.
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... and Projects --> Recordings. I don't think I'm composing, but maybe I make a thread there in the future.
Don't be stubborn about this if you want views. I saw exactly where you put it, and you will receive no comments. It is in the wrong forum and sub-thread. Again, no reply is needed: move it, repost or ignore the advice.
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Don't be stubborn about this if you want views. I saw exactly where you put it, and you will receive no comments. It is in the wrong forum and sub-thread. Again, no reply is needed: move it, repost or ignore the advice.
I put it there because I thought it's the right place. This is a kind of project and recording. Also what I think is that improvisation is not composing in the sense.
But yeah, maybe you're right I could get more views there. Or maybe people would love to answer it's not a place for improvisations. Can't know.
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Sorry I don't want to talk with you anymore at all. I'm sorry.
I'd also appreciate if you correct the quote you made on your post.
Thanks everyone for the tips.
whatever I quoted was what you had written at the time... it's too late to modify.. or are you talking about what I cut and pasted from your website--you've changed it? either way it's too late
if you are looking for comments from inexperienced people who are just going to tell you how great you are... this is not the best place to post.
this is a classical piano forum.
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I put it there because I thought it's the right place. This is a kind of project and recording. Also what I think is that improvisation is not composing in the sense.
But yeah, maybe you're right I could get more views there. Or maybe people would love to answer it's not a place for improvisations. Can't know.
You cOULD know, if you wanted to know. Look in the Composer's Lounge, and you will find improvisations there, such as this.
https://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2460090/improvisation_no.1._for_piano.html#Post2460090
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Sorry I don't want to talk with you anymore at all. I'm sorry.
I'd also appreciate if you correct the quote you made on your post.
Thanks everyone for the tips.
Why not?
dcstudio was telling the truth when she said that there were many people in the world who can improvise very well (and create their own melodies).
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Why not?
dcstudio was telling the truth
I'm guessing that's why.
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Why not?
dcstudio was telling the truth when she said that there were many people in the world who can improvise very well (and create their own melodies).
She could have done it in one sentence as you did if that was her point.
From me will no one get any respect by telling he's 51 or a piano teacher.
There are some personality types that I don't like to debate.
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She could have done it in one sentence as you did if that was her point.
From me will no one get any respect by telling he's 51 or a piano teacher.
There are some personality types that I don't like to debate.
You are really incredible! DC was trying to be supportive and understand. She posted a YouTube video of a modern improv, with the melody as an improv and asked for feedback... not a debate. She wasn't asking for your 'respect', although she could have. She makes a living doing what you consider yourself to be 'the world's best' at doing.
Rather than onsidering an orig improv with improv melody, you maligned the poster and the discussion.
Jawdropping really your response or lack thereof.
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I see a lot of things from a different perspective. I didn't mean to be rude or nothing else.
Just felt that the "conversation" is going nowhere with her, so I don't want to put too much effort to it.
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I see a lot of things from a different perspective. I didn't mean to be rude or nothing else.
Just felt that the "conversation" is going nowhere with her, so I don't want to put too much effort to it.
good luck out there in the real music world...
you got it all figured out pianoman...LOL
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Now I came on the biggest piano forum in the Internet and here are some teenagers telling me "shut up"?
Where are the moderators of this forum??
I'm sorry, but moderators don't censor other people's posts, unless they are absolute hate speech (e.g. that there should be another Holocaust and that Hitler is life)
you asked me "can you do an improvisation like me?" well that's interesting; I'm not trying to be hostile, but I think it's worth a try. Stay tuned; it may go on the Audition Room... and that's actually pretty funny @dcstudio but on my part, these conversations are still worth having...
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I'm sorry, but moderators don't censor other people's posts, unless they are absolute hate speech (e.g. that there should be another Holocaust and that Hitler is life)
you asked me "can you do an improvisation like me?" well that's interesting; I'm not trying to be hostile, but I think it's worth a try. Stay tuned; it may go on the Audition Room... and that's actually pretty funny @dcstudio but on my part, these conversations are still worth having...
I cant wait! Ill post some of my terrible improvisations too, but maybe later
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you asked me "can you do an improvisation like me?" well that's interesting; I'm not trying to be hostile, but I think it's worth a try. Stay tuned; it may go on the Audition Room...
YES!!!!
wow... if this thread, for whatever reason, inspires you to improvise Schumaniac -- then it was definitely worthwhile.
:) I look forward to hearing your "world's best pianist" improvisations.
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you asked me "can you do an improvisation like me?" well that's interesting; I'm not trying to be hostile, but I think it's worth a try. Stay tuned; it may go on the Audition Room... and that's actually pretty funny @dcstudio but on my part, these conversations are still worth having...
One per week, different kinds of. This is important.
Make a thread the world's second best pianist.
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One per week, different kinds of. This is important.
Make a thread the world's second best pianist.
at the risk of causing more crap--and for anyone else who reads this---I don't think you are improvising... I think you are formulating repeated patterns and calling it improvisation. One song per week in different styles...hmmm you see that just doesn't make sense..
when one is a proficient at improvisation... a song in any style can be improvised at any time... this once a week thing... that indicates a preparation of some kind... that you spend time composing at least part of it.
so it's not technically improvisation.. but you just go ahead and call it whatever you like..
I was clarifying it for the other members here...
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Whoaaaaaa all PS members! I wanna clarify that there's a 51 yr old an adult woman on your forum who clarifies THINGS ABOUT ME for you.
Please everyone read her post carefully! I don't know her personally and I really don't want to.
I was clarifying it for the other members here...
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there's a 51 yr old an adult woman
Be respectful to your elders, kiddo.
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Be respectful to your elders, kiddo.
I try to respect all livings as much as I can! What was not there respectful in my post?
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I try to respect all livings as much as I can! What was not there respectful in my post?
your reaction indicates I am right on the money...
true improvisation is not prepared, but I do like these songs you make up...
and everyone here knows me and knows how old I am silly little boy.
lol... it's such a shame that you have chosen to be so hostile.. as anyone here will tell you...I really do love pianists who improvise and compose...
and please tell me at what point and exactly what I have said that you find disrespectful. seriously... when did I ever become hostile?
was it simply that I had 5 concurrently running lines of improvisation...? according to your own parameters.. that means I am defined as far more "musical genius" than you. If you can apply this definition of "musical genius" to you... well then it should hold true for the rest of us as well..
right? then pencilart3 is a musical genius as well.
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then pencilart3 is a musical genius as well.
*coughs loudly* :-X
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*coughs loudly* :-X
*coughs even louder*
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*coughs even louder*
*thinks "you're one to cough"*
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*thinks "you're one to cough"*
*thinks that Thailand has more pianists than I previously thought*
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Please do not flood this thread full of sh*t.
::)
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I think you should get each other's phone number pencil and rubinstein if you already don't.
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*coughs loudly* :-X
yes, you are a genius... what, you don't believe me? lol.
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I think you should get each other's phone number pencil and rubinstein if you already don't.
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"Song" is generally for music that is sung with voice. Peculiar choice for the title of your piece because it is far from displaying what the piano can fully achieve. Demonstrating the large range of abilities someone who is amongst the best cannot be expressed in your work. But I know the op is trying to encourage reaction from others :)
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"Song" is generally for music that is sung with voice. Peculiar choice for the title of your piece because it is far from displaying what the piano can fully achieve. Demonstrating the large range of abilities someone who is amongst the best cannot be expressed in your work. But I know the op is trying to encourage reaction from others :)
encourage reaction... lol
our wise moderator has spoken... at least I think you are a moderator... aren't you?
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"Song" is generally for music that is sung with voice.
Thanks for your attention! You're right. "Song" is also normally used of a popular music track in English, and in my native language we normally use a "piece" or "track" of those. So I have thought its meaning a bit different. Actually I haven't even thought what it really means... Also a "piano song" is used a lot.
Peculiar choice for the title of your piece because it is far from displaying what the piano can fully achieve. Demonstrating the large range of abilities someone who is amongst the best cannot be expressed in your work.
We are just to the start and there are lots of coming more... It was the artist name, not for the track 8)
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Thanks for your attention! You're right. "Song" is also normally used of a popular music track in English, and in my native language we normally use a "piece" or "track" of those. So I have thought its meaning a bit different. Actually I haven't even thought what it really means... Also a "piano song" is used a lot.
If you say piano song you look stupid if it s not sung with the voice, unless you say it's a song without words or something like that like Mr Mendelsohn for example.
We are just to the start and there are lots of coming more... It was the artist name, not for the track 8)
Well you have a huge way to go if you just started and in fact pretty much nothing in your first improvisation is anywhere near what the best pianists can do. If it's the artists name then you are simply encouraging reaction from others, boring, obvious and of course not true. Sure f you took is thread serious no one would have responded, but no one still is responding seriously over your work it just dissolves into flame wars.
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encourage reaction... lol
our wise moderator has spoken... at least I think you are a moderator... aren't you?
Nah I'm not a moderator here :) Don't think many would have responded if the assertion of being the best in the world wasn't there. It's so obviously ridiculous when I listened to the improv I laughed because it was so simplistic, even if it were composed many times better, well you'd still have people tearing it apart, how dare anyone proclaim to be the best!! Of course no one is fooled that this improv is anywhere near the best and because the OP pretends to be serious feathers get ruffled hehe.
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even if it were composed many times better, well you'd still have people tearing it apart, how dare anyone proclaim to be the best!!
Composed? Improvisation? Sorry it seems that you didn't get the point here.
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Well the only way to improve it would be for you to consciously make alterations to it since your improvisation skills were not enough. Sorry if you don't get that point.
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Well the only way to improve it would be for you to consciously make alterations to it since your improvisation skills were not enough. Sorry if you don't get that point.
Improve what? Make alterations to what? All my tracks are fully improvised and everything comes unconsciously straight from my mind. There is no any pre-composed track at all what to improve. I don't do any conscious things there. Only in the improvisation no. 2 I think I've used the melody before, but still it comes unconsciously from my mind and it doesn't differ from the other improvisations that I've done.
My creativity is beyond belief so it seems that no one can believe me here. That's very frustrating, but I understand that because I think no one else can do the same in the world. I'm serious.
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Improve what? Make alterations to what? All my tracks are fully improvised and everything comes unconsciously straight from my mind. There is no any pre-composed track at all what to improve. I don't do any conscious things there. Only in the improvisation no. 2 I think I've used the melody before, but still it comes unconsciously from my mind and it doesn't differ from the other improvisations that I've done.
My creativity is beyond belief so it seems that no one can believe me here. That's very frustrating, but I understand that because I think no one else can do the same in the world. I'm serious.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but your delusions of grandeur is not uncommon when it comes to the Internet, whether people are being serious (which is just sad) or joking about it. It is not a matter of belief that what you have posted so far sounds far far away from being the greatest in the world. If you want to play games go ahead you think that encouraging flame wars online is new?
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but your delusions of grandeur is not uncommon when it comes to the Internet, whether people are being serious (which is just sad) or joking about it. It is not a matter of belief that what you have posted so far sounds far far away from being the greatest in the world. If you want to play games go ahead you think that encouraging flame wars online is new?
Can't believe you don't get the point. Read the whole thread if you haven't. If you have I've nothing to say.
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It's ok if you can't believe it, you are only one person who really cares.
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Hehe, you're the funniest guy of this thread. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Oh.. maybe after me.
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Don't worry I'm onto your humour lol.
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That's good but you haven't heard me joking yet.
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No not heard but I've read a bit.
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ok I tried improvising in your "style" @OP and it was HARD! At first I was like: "yeah, blues scale, ii-V-I, I-IV-V-I... simple stuff" but........
So it's really respectable, what you've been doing. But you need to change your attitude. Even the most perfect people still have things to learn; there is no perfection. If you hadn't barged in, like a bull in a china shop, saying you're a "musical genius" and such, we would have given you LOTS of positive comments.
Anyway though, I'm thinking of uploading one of my attempts... but it won't be as soon as I'd thought. My parents (cause I'm a teenager like rubinsteinmad and pencilart3) would be suspicious and I'm not sure if I have the time now b/c schoolwork