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Title: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: ahmedito on December 22, 2004, 04:04:40 PM
Dabblers, debutantes... people who act like they play but dont. Here 1000000 ways  taken from real life preferably with which to recognize someone who acts big but who really doesn't have a clue about playing the piano:

1- Believes Fur Elise is the Everest of piano repertoire, only second to the moonlight sonata.

2- When playing the third movement of the moonlight, will play the left hand in C major and and right hand in C# minor without realizing something is wrong. (This actually happened in an audition at mi older conservatoire, needless to say the tone-deaf interpreter was stopped after 6 measures)...

(Feel free to continue:)
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Post by: ahmedito on December 23, 2004, 10:25:23 AM
3- Calls piano music "songs".
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Post by: chromatickler on December 23, 2004, 10:56:23 AM
4- if they is not a membah of DA SDC
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Post by: Nina_too on December 23, 2004, 11:14:01 AM
5- Thinks Rachmaninoff's 3rd Concerto is called the "Mach 3".  (True story)

6- Thinks Chopin was gay because he dedicated music to George Sand.
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Post by: drooxy on December 23, 2004, 03:50:59 PM
Thinks Richard Clayderman is a classical pianist !

 ;D
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Post by: Floristan on December 23, 2004, 05:05:58 PM
Is surprised to learn that Rachmaninoff did not get the idea for the 2nd Piano Concerto from the song, "Full Moon and Empty Arms."   ;D
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Post by: ahmedito on December 23, 2004, 05:24:24 PM
9- When asked: Do you know any Bach? Proceeds to play the first measures of the tocatta in d minor and the Minuet in G from Anne Magdalenes notebook.... (This was me when I was still a trumpet player and playing the piano profesionally is far away in the future.

(By the way, I think this is the best way to see if a pianist is actually what he says he is. Ask him to play some Bach.)
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Post by: Nina_too on December 23, 2004, 05:29:36 PM
These are great!  I laughed out loud at several of them... particularly Floristan's!!   ;D
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Post by: ahmedito on December 23, 2004, 05:30:59 PM
10- Sits the wrong way on the piano bench...
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Post by: Op. 1 No. 2 on December 23, 2004, 05:48:29 PM
11 - Has a bad sense of fashion.

(https://www.diners.hr/magazin/datoteke/broj_32/maksim%203.jpg)
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Post by: TheRach on December 23, 2004, 08:31:23 PM
10- Sits the wrong way on the piano bench...

Glenn Gould. Need I say more?
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Post by: e60m5 on December 24, 2004, 05:01:25 AM
RE: Mach3...

He was right, after all.

(https://e60m5.ath.cx/rach3.jpg)
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Post by: rlefebvr on December 24, 2004, 05:33:34 AM
Asks Bernard what it takes to be a serious  pianist........
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Post by: abe on December 24, 2004, 07:29:26 AM
LOL Mach 3. I was there LIVE when that thread came out. I quote from one of the responses:

"This is the most horrible thread I have ever seen"


...so true. That was quite a funny moment. Good times.

--Abe
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Post by: Tash on December 24, 2004, 09:51:43 AM
Is surprised to learn that Rachmaninoff did not get the idea for the 2nd Piano Concerto from the song, "Full Moon and Empty Arms." ;D

also from 'all by myself' by whoever it's by

and also thinks that pachabel's canon in d maj was inspired by vitamin c's graduation song- story from yr10 when watching an australian movie on the vietnam war with nicole kidma in it made back in the 80's or something, the theme piece was pachabel's canon, and my friend goes 'why are they playing the graduation song...' and i'm like 'you moron it's a canon that was written several hundred years before the graduation song' but seriously how can you NOT know that?!
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Post by: Daniel_piano on December 24, 2004, 12:58:20 PM
12 - when can play the piano with perfect and amazing technique but doesn't know anything about theory and music

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Post by: Floristan on December 24, 2004, 05:26:01 PM
Thinks playing on the black keys is really, really hard.
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Post by: chickering9 on December 24, 2004, 05:37:58 PM
9- When asked: Do you know any Bach? ...

I object to number 9.  Some of us could doubtless
play Bach if we chose to, but just don't like his work
at all and choose not to learn any of his work.  Life's
too short for liver and onions, "reality" TV, and Bach. 8)
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Post by: JK on December 24, 2004, 05:43:47 PM
how to recognise someone who is trying to be a serious pianist......they start a thread about how to recognise people who aren't serious pianists.

But really have you nothing better to do than to poke fun. This is, in my opinion, exactly the sort of attitude that puts people off from classical music and getting serious about an instrument. A lot of people wouldn't know what Rach3 was, we all do because we know the piece and some may even be able to play it, however if you come from a background where you are not at all exposed to classical music then you wouldn't really have a hope in hell of knowing. Most of the things in this thread are things that probably a lot of us did similar things to when we first started out, I for one used to think that pieces with black notes in were hard, that was when I was 5, now 13 years on things are different but I had to start out somewhere. Please don't aim comments at people who aren't as well educated in music as you all are, it is unfair and is a very damaging attitude to take as it repels people from classical music, enhancing the impression that it is elitist, which is something that is very damaging and that we acnnot afford to do.
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Post by: abe on December 24, 2004, 06:29:49 PM
Someone just always has to make everything controversial.

I'm sure the thread starter had no malicious intent when coming up with this fun topic, and it's not hurting anyone because I seriosly doubt any non-pianists or non-musicians would be regularly reading these forums.
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Post by: JK on December 24, 2004, 07:36:13 PM
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Someone just always has to make everything controversial.

Oh so you think I'm deliberately going out of my way to be controversial do you?! well I can tell you I have better things to do with my time then to deliberately wind up a bunch of people I don't know. I said what I said because that is what I think, if you think this makes this topic controversial then to be honest I don't give a monkeys.
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Post by: pianolotus on December 24, 2004, 08:04:05 PM


Glenn Gould. Need I say more?


you got beef with glenn gould?!?!?!

does wayne brady need to slap a b****???
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Post by: Sketchee on December 24, 2004, 09:49:02 PM
It's a funny thread ... it's joking just examples of pianist's extreme Cultural bias (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_bias), but I just hope no one really really expects every classical pianist to play Bach, Rach or Mach ...  ;D
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Post by: Ludvig_Van_Me on December 26, 2004, 12:26:55 AM
12 - when can play the piano with perfect and amazing technique but doesn't know anything about theory and music




/Gulp              ;)
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Post by: xenon on December 26, 2004, 12:40:03 AM
13 - Pronounces Bach "Batch"
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Post by: lostinidlewonder on December 26, 2004, 04:28:35 AM
13 - Plays with index fingers only, or the incredibly solid knuckles hand formation!!!
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Post by: Tash on December 26, 2004, 10:19:57 AM
yes cultural bias, we are all musical snobs and will pay out others who don't know as much. but people in other areas i'm sure will pay us out in return for being ignorant about what they do, so in the end it balances out. i'm quite happy for people to pay me out for my lack of knowledge if i haven't even bothered getting my facts straight in the first place.
nothing is ever restricted to one area, it's in all of them and everything has parallels!
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Post by: Flavia on December 26, 2004, 05:47:46 PM
Hello all!!

I dont think that Fernandito started this with any malice ofcourse but yet what JK wrote gives me a chance to open my heart!!!!!!!

Well here I m, an unexposed bug in ur world and franknly i have hardly any knowledge of classical music and very limited resources to get any except my dear net and Forums like this.

All that matters to me is I WANT TO PLAY PIANO!!!!!!!!!!!!! well the heights of the tragedy reach to this point that i dont even have one and i practice on a keyboard Casio CTK 457 (five Octaves)and learn from |John Thiomson book and Changs version downloadede from net .

I joined forum and have been and inert member for a long time many times i get depressed for the lack of knowledge but then its not my fault its my destiny as i bet there is not a single full time pianist with depth in my whole town of population 27 lakhs!!

I m still hope ful that i will play well buy a piano and play all Beethoven and mozart and bach and know all the stuff that u talk!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: il4drifoglio on December 26, 2004, 08:01:51 PM
13. he thinks that the best way to play legato is lowering the right pedal  :-X
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Post by: Ludvig_Van_Me on December 26, 2004, 08:11:22 PM
13. he thinks that the best way to play legato is lowering the right pedal  :-X



"HE"!?     and............/Gulp (again)
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Post by: xvimbi on December 26, 2004, 08:56:09 PM
13. he thinks that the best way to play legato is lowering the right pedal  :-X

13. she thinks that the best way to play legato never involves the right pedal  :P
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Post by: hodi on December 26, 2004, 09:01:48 PM
playing pop songs with cords in the left hand and some 5 note melody in the right hand!
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Post by: anda on December 26, 2004, 09:02:37 PM
best (easiest) way: thinks anyone with a good technique must/will be a great pianist.
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Post by: allchopin on December 26, 2004, 11:07:52 PM
16.  Posts on a piano forum instead of playing  :P
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Post by: adrian on December 27, 2004, 04:46:16 AM
Dabblers, debutantes... people who act like they play but dont. Here 1000000 ways  taken from real life preferably with which to recognize someone who acts big but who really doesn't have a clue about playing the piano:

1- Believes Fur Elise is the Everest of piano repertoire, only second to the moonlight sonata.

2- When playing the third movement of the moonlight, will play the left hand in C major and and right hand in C# minor without realizing something is wrong. (This actually happened in an audition at mi older conservatoire, needless to say the tone-deaf interpreter was stopped after 6 measures)...

(Feel free to continue:)

I think everyone thought that Fur Elise was the peak of playing at oNe stage?
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: randolph on December 27, 2004, 09:20:06 AM
you got beef with glenn gould?!?!?!
i sincerely hope not.  interpretation = 50% of music.  gould recognized he wasn't just playing bach's music, he was sharing it equally with him.  an audience has no interest in reading a bach suite from the sheet music, as they have little interest in joe-nobody on the piano about to perform it.  However, Joe-nobody with a fantastic interpretation+Bach score = Beauty. 
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Post by: ahmedito on December 27, 2004, 05:40:19 PM
Dont like it? Start a different thread and tell us why, but please dont clutter this one up. Are you easily offended? well... if the shoe fits. Some of the ones Ive posted are things I did myself at some point. If you bother to read you will see that some of them are actually about me.... Please, I hate it when people start arguing over who is right and who is wrong. Just post a joke and laugh at the other ones please. Some are quite funny. :)

Here are some others (all true stories):

17- Thinks a synth is suitable replacement for a piano, even better since it can make 1001 sounds (thats me some years ago :) )

18- After hearing a particularily great concert goes up to Daniel Barenboim and asks him what he does for a "real job". (since it really is impossible to make a living as a musician)

19- After hearing a great concert goes up to Evgeny Kissin and asks him where he can download that song (Beethoven 5th concerto) for his mobile phone. (This one happened a few weeks ago).
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Post by: JK on December 27, 2004, 08:41:37 PM
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Dont like it? Start a different thread and tell us why, but please dont clutter this one up. Are you easily offended? well... if the shoe fits. Some of the ones Ive posted are things I did myself at some point. If you bother to read you will see that some of them are actually about me.... Please, I hate it when people start arguing over who is right and who is wrong.

hahaha well funnily enough I was about to reply and say that i wasn't accusing anybody of being unfair, and that I didn't think the person who started this thread was doing so maliciously, but now I can't help but be a little annoyed. Just because i have a different view about the content of this thread and feel that it is possibly harmful to some people I am told to *** off and post elsewhere in another thread. I think that what i said has most relevance to this thread and pardon me for having a difference of opinion. I wasn't delibertately arguing or being controversial, I was giving an opinion and being honest, i have better things to do than to start arguments with people I cannot even see, if you don't like my opinoin then don't read it and don't take any notice, I am not going stop posting my opinions simply because you don't like them. If people didn't share their opinions then the world would be an incredibly uninteresting place and everyone would be stuck with just they're own thoughts.

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Are you easily offended? well... if the shoe fits.

umm, no I'm not easilly offended bit if I have a strong opinion about something then I give it, if you don't like this then I really don't care. I do not like your suggestion that i am not a serious pianst, you know nothing about me or anyone else really on this forum, if you did then you wouldn't say that quite so easilly.

I'm sure you'll be happy to know that that's all I'm going to say on the matter, if you choose to read what i wrote before and try to understand what i said then that would be rather nice, however if you want to continue accusing me of ruining the fun and being controversial for the sake of it, then go ahead.
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Post by: jazzyprof on December 27, 2004, 09:52:52 PM
(By the way, JK, lighten up. :))

20.  Blushes when someone talks about "fingering" a piece.
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Post by: bernhard on December 27, 2004, 10:49:30 PM
Long, sometimes exquisitely manicured nails.
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Post by: chas on December 27, 2004, 11:34:34 PM
and the guys who don't get all these indications that show that a person is not a pianist

OK, I am just a wanna be, but I enjoy the joke and am learning all the time
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Post by: ThomasBecket on December 28, 2004, 06:15:40 AM
Identified with Elton John when he got to play the piano for Diana's funeral.  Thought it was really cool and that the rest of the music sucked.
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Post by: Sketchee on December 28, 2004, 10:39:57 AM
25.  Thinks they can easily recognize who is not a "serious" pianist and makes a list about it ;)

26.  Wonders what this "list" is that everyone is talking about and what it has to do with hungarian rhapsody.
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Post by: rafant on December 28, 2004, 03:52:02 PM
28 - Anybody practicing 2 or 3 days in a week or only during weekends

29 - Whoever is trying to learn without taking lessons (sorry, I think so)

30 - Anybody whose playing is really bad, but who makes lot of mannered gestures (lisztian emulation looks good only for acomplished pianists)

31 - Anybody learning simplified versions of classical piano repertoire
 
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Post by: rafant on December 28, 2004, 04:16:12 PM
I skipped a number, but here it is:

27 - When I was an absolute beginner I had a teacher who wanted I practiced in a rambling, almost dumb and filthy piano, saying it was advisable for learning.

Next, #32.
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Post by: calidris on December 28, 2004, 04:34:27 PM
32.  Everyone who says he/she will be playing Fur Elise and then only plays the main theme. 

33. Everyone who sits down at an acoustic piano and asks where the on/off button is (true story!)
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Post by: ahmedito on December 28, 2004, 05:34:25 PM
My my... those last ones I'll have to admit will be a tiny bit offensive to many here.

34- Liberace...

35- Doesn't really see the difference between what he hears in his CD of Horowitz plays the Tchaikovsky concertos and the version he plays from "Classic themes for children"....  (Ugh, one of my ex-students)
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Post by: bravuraoctaves on December 28, 2004, 05:52:26 PM
Not that I have anything against people who are not serious,

.........

I can think of a few, but I've done all of them.

(embarassed)
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Post by: ahmedito on December 28, 2004, 06:05:14 PM
:) Learn to laugh at yourself.... we were all pianistically stupid once.
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Post by: Hmoll on December 28, 2004, 08:09:37 PM
36 - Thinks "Alberado del Grascioso" is a Mexican middle-weight.
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Post by: Piazzo22 on December 28, 2004, 08:39:27 PM
37. Thinks there are easy and difficult to play piano works.
38. Categorizes piano works by difficulty levels.
39. Thinks the composer was really worried about the level of "difficulty" of his work.
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Post by: m on December 28, 2004, 08:57:55 PM
to recognize someone who acts big but who really doesn't have a clue about playing the piano:


Usually it is enough to listen to a couple notes played on instrument...
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Post by: Maui on December 28, 2004, 10:16:36 PM

29 - Whoever is trying to learn without taking lessons (sorry, I think so)
 

What about Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli? The best in my opinion, specially for impressionism stuff
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Post by: Ludvig_Van_Me on December 28, 2004, 11:19:50 PM


What about Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli? The best in my opinion, specially for impressionism stuff


I think some people resent people that haven't been through a strict piano routine from a young age like they have, and then try to scoff at them.
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Post by: Vivers on December 29, 2004, 04:19:20 AM
- Looks at her piano teacher's bookshelf/library and thinks that she owns every piece of piano music ever composed.
- Asks her piano teacher if she's played every piece of piano music ever composed.
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Post by: dinosaurtales on December 29, 2004, 07:04:23 AM
40.  Doesn't see any point in working on a piece if it's not just for "fun"
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Post by: ahmedito on December 29, 2004, 05:57:51 PM
41- Sits on the piano and inmediately looks for the "on" button.

42- Is dissapointed to hear that the piano cant make "funkysynth" or "flutteryghosts", but only comes with one single boring sound effect.


....lighten up, these are getting a bit too serious for my taste....

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Post by: calidris on December 29, 2004, 07:27:42 PM
43.  he/she who wonders why anyone would want that outer left pedal on a grand that makes you play your piece half a tone too high
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Post by: il4drifoglio on December 29, 2004, 11:40:01 PM

46- prefers Fazioli pianos because of theirs paint jobs !
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Post by: Op. 1 No. 2 on December 30, 2004, 12:37:00 AM
47 - Wear grey robes.
48 - Worship the full moon.
48 - Live in the forest.
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Post by: Piazzo22 on December 30, 2004, 02:16:03 AM
49- Prefer Steinway pianos because everybody else is using them.
50- Prefer Evanescence because everybody else is listening to them.
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Post by: ChristmasCarol on December 30, 2004, 02:59:12 PM
36.  After discussing your latest composition and their supposed total interest in it, you sit down to play it and they turn to someone else and begin talking. 

37.  They cannot bring themselves to complement someone else's playing.

38.  When asked to perform with other musicians, they do not bother to show up on time or be prepared to dig in.

39.  Stick with a lousy piano in their home.

40.  They can only play one composer well and continue to do so again and again in local public performances.

ALl of the above I have seen... more than once.

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Post by: Etude on December 30, 2004, 03:38:46 PM
56. Upon entering a room whilst you are playing, they immediately shout "TURN IT OFF." 

57. Ask you to play something and then start plonking the keys at either the highest or lowest point of the keyboard.

58. Ask you to play something and interupt you asking you to play something else and not any of that classical ****.

59. Asks you to play "eye of the tiger," whatever that is, I think it's the thing with the repeated octaves.

60.  Arrives unprepared for a performance of some of the easiest music ever arranged, played on an electric keyboard with a "one fingered" melody in RH and
one note chord settings in the LH and a backing rhythm and still manages to mess it up.

61.  Tries to play the theme from "Titanic" on any random starting note with all white keys and still thinks it is right.

62.  Gets frustrated and envious of those who are better pianists but practises something like five minutes a week.

63.  Teaches pupils who come for piano lessons on an electric keyboard with the easiest music every written with a one fingered melody in RH and one note chord settings in the LH and a backing rhythm and makes them sight read through it at tediously slow speeds while they still make loads of mistakes and harshly criticises unconstructively and doesn't really care whether or not they improve.

64.  Thinks they know everything about music and tries to sound clever by correcting you with falsehoods that even they know is garbage but just aim to prove you wrong.

65.  Upon hearing a piece that a student has been working on for many weeks, says every lesson, "It needs a bit of work, that one."

66.  Locks you in the practice room.  :'(

67.  Puts pupils through as many exams as possible regardless of their ability or readiness because they are paid more money.

68.  Pulls the power supply out of the electric piano while you are practicing. 

67.  Organizes concerts that are simply I bunch of talentless morons getting up and singing with no musical detail whatsoever and recieving a huge applause.

68.  Thinks that a hemiola is a disease.

69.  Thinks that a leitmotif is a light bulb.

70.  Spends years getting ready for a grade 5 exam and performs the music just as badly as at the beginning.

71.  Tries to play difficult music paying no attention to technique or musicality but just trying to make as much noise as possible.

72.  Thinks Bach is easy because there is no pedal used.

73.  Thinks that all classical music is Mozart.

74.  Thinks "Mozart" is spoken with English phonetics.

75.  Knows 3 composers: "Beethoven", "Mo-zart" and "Tchaikovsky."

76.  Steals music from you.

77. Doesn't have a piano.

78. Their 2 3 trills are as bad as my LH 5 4 trills.

(These all really happened BTW.)
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Post by: nose on December 30, 2004, 04:13:54 PM
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Stick with a lousy piano in their home

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Doesn't have a piano

Don't agree with these two at all, I didn't have a piano until my mid teens and that didn't mean I was not serious. Plus not everyone has enough money or space, if you live where I do to, to afford a piano let alone a decent one or a grand, not nice if you are a serious pianist who can't afford a piano.

Sorry if I offended anyone by being serious for a moment.

79. Hits the piano when you are trying to practice, this happened many times when I used to practice at school.
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Post by: rafant on December 30, 2004, 05:50:36 PM
Fernandito, Ludwig van Me and Maui, and whoever offended by my intervention above, please accept my humble apologies. It was not my purpose to offend anybody. Certainly I agree that this interesting thread is better replied with funny answers. Kind regards.
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Post by: nose on December 30, 2004, 06:35:17 PM
Quote from CHAS:

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and the guys who don't get all these indications that show that a person is not a pianist

 ??? ??? ??? :-\ :-\ ::)
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Post by: squinchy on December 30, 2004, 07:49:27 PM
80. Plays Fur Elise in such a way that the note at the end of every phrase is nipped and the left hand's chords are always a beat or two behind the right hand, then tells you (when you're looking at them in a non-admiring way that they perceive as admiration) that they've "been working on it for a long time."

81. Asks if you can play any "real music."

82. Asks if you can play Heart and Soul with them, then tells you that you're messing it up when the song (it did originally have words, didn't it?) falls apart due to their lagging (or nonexistent) rhythm.

50- Prefer Evanescence because everybody else is listening to them.

What does Evanescence have to do with piano-fakery? </doesn't get it>

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43.  he/she who wonders why anyone would want that outer left pedal on a grand that makes you play your piece half a tone too high

83. Had absolutely no idea that a grand has an outer left pedal. </that's me!>
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Post by: Glissando on December 30, 2004, 09:23:44 PM
Who the apostrophe is Evanescence?!
LOL, you know I never even learned Fur Elise because everyone else played it so much....

84. thinks the greatest pieces of music ever written are Linus and Lucy and The Entertainer. ::)
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Post by: squinchy on December 30, 2004, 09:35:55 PM
Who the apostrophe is Evanescence?!
Evanescense is Amy Lee's band's name. It's kind of a optimistically dark rock group with good vocals (Amy Lee) and use of typically classical instruments, in my opinion.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gyzzzmo on January 01, 2005, 04:53:10 PM
I strongly object no.12:

this makes number 85: Someone who things you cant be a serious pianist if you dont know a lot about about music theory.

number 86: Someone who thinks Chopin's Etude no 2 op.10 can be played with his toes.

number 87: Someone who thinks 'Sonata Facile' is facile.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Rach3 on January 02, 2005, 04:17:33 AM
Quote
I strongly object no.12:

this makes number 85: Someone who things you cant be a serious pianist if you dont know a lot about about music theory.

This makes #s. 88 and 89 for me:

88. Someone who thinks that 'music theory' is all 'theory' and superfluous to 'real music'.

89. Someone who knows nothing about music theory yet plays Beethoven and Schumann.

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90. Someone who doesn't know whether a piano is in tune or not.

Sudden inspiration!

91. Someone who thinks 'cadence' and 'cadenza' are the same thing.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: steve on January 03, 2005, 01:31:39 AM
Long, sometimes exquisitely manicured nails.

Hey, some people need them for guitar, you know...  ;)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Etude on January 03, 2005, 12:17:02 PM
92.  Asks you what the fastest thing you can play is.

93.  Asks you how fast you can play a scale etc.
 
94.  Thinks Beethoven is a dog.   ;D

95.  Thinks Beethoven is a rap artist.

96.  Says Bach as "Batch."

97.  Says Bach as "Back"

97.  Says Bach as "Bark"

98.  Says Chopin as "Choppin'"

99.  Refuses to play music of certain composers because of how they lived.

(all happened)





Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: mound on January 03, 2005, 02:45:44 PM
100. Believes that a serious pianist should recognize that salsa, jazz, heavy metal, punk rock and rap are not valid means of musical expression.     ;)
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Post by: ahmedito on January 03, 2005, 05:41:09 PM
:)

101- Say Chopin as "Pincho"

102-  Thinks that Fur Elise starts with a really slow trill....


These are both true by the way ....  ::)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Rach3 on January 03, 2005, 10:26:11 PM
103 - Thinks 'Fur Elise' starts with a really fast and virtuosic trill.
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Post by: jacobspauly on January 03, 2005, 11:17:11 PM
104. Thinks that pieces like Ravel's Bolero are structually advanced.

105. Considers themselves advanced for playing Claie de Lune or Moonlight 1st movement

106. Thinks Cantabile is pronounced "Can't - a - bile"


Been there, done that.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Etude on January 04, 2005, 02:50:25 PM
103 - Thinks 'Fur Elise' starts with a really fast and virtuosic trill.

107.  Plays too many notes at the start of Fur Elise and breaks off abruptly into the rest of the piece, thinking it is clever to do so.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Etude on January 07, 2005, 02:53:06 AM
999893 still left to go
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Glissando on January 07, 2005, 03:25:22 AM
94.  Thinks Beethoven is a dog.   ;D

THAT IS NOT FUNNY!
I was playing some sonatina for my cousin a few years ago, and after I finished playing it I mentioned that Beethoven wrote it. He just stared at me like he thought I was mad and said, "but beethoven is a dog."
I almost died of horror.
Okay, in retrospect it was kinda funny. But I hope it never happens again!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: JimDunlop on January 07, 2005, 05:16:00 AM
I think the most appropriate response if someone ever responds "But Beethoven is a dog..."  is to look them straight in the eye, and without flinching or batting an eyelid, with a perfectly serious expression say.  "Yes, Saint Bernards are amazing animals." 

Then, if your shocked party wants more information, enlighten them with quasi-scientific details of how scientists have been able to read and analyze the brain wave patterns of dogs and convert them into musical notation using super-sophisticated computers.

Now just wait until you hear this next piece that was written by a Peruvian pygmy goat!.......
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Post by: bernhard on January 08, 2005, 03:16:05 PM


Hey, some people need them for guitar, you know...  ;)

108. Believing that one can master the piano even if they let their nails grow to play the guitar as well. ;D ;)

Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: bernhard on January 08, 2005, 03:17:41 PM
I think the most appropriate response if someone ever responds "But Beethoven is a dog..."  is to look them straight in the eye, and without flinching or batting an eyelid, with a perfectly serious expression say.  "Yes, Saint Bernards are amazing animals." 


Beethoven is a Saint Bern(h)ard. ;D

There isa thought... ;D ;)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: chopinguy on January 08, 2005, 04:50:20 PM
57. Ask you to play something and then start plonking the keys at either the highest or lowest point of the keyboard.

Ahhhh.... that gets so annoying!

109. Plays a "show-off" piece faster than he can handle just to show off to his friends.

 I've seen this one at my middle school talent show, he messed up march of the dwarves (grieg) in front of the whole school!  Played it fast, faster, messed up, and stopped.  Started again, playing even faster, notes mashing together, messed up, and stops again... etc.  nevertheless, almost everyone was still cheering for him.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Etude on January 08, 2005, 06:46:13 PM
110.  Thinks that you are just showing off when you play technically difficult music.

111.  Asks you how long it takes to be able to play every piece ever written.

112.  Starts to mock you by pretending to play the piano in thin air.

113.  Starts to play the piano just because you have to perform as coursework.

114.  writes in an exam:  "Beethoven expired in 1827, he later died because of this."  ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: anda on January 08, 2005, 09:48:29 PM
stops taking lessons when realizes how poorly paid his/her teahcer is (therefore how bad job this is)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: squinchy on January 11, 2005, 07:43:02 PM

109. Plays a "show-off" piece faster than he can handle just to show off to his friends.

 I've seen this one at my middle school talent show, he messed up march of the dwarves (grieg) in front of the whole school!  Played it fast, faster, messed up, and stopped.  Started again, playing even faster, notes mashing together, messed up, and stops again... etc.  nevertheless, almost everyone was still cheering for him.

I've witnessed worse at my elementary school talent show. A fourth grader messed up the accompaniment to Heart and Soul in front of the whole school. It wouldn't be so bad if he were playing the melody with the other hand-for someone that age, I'd think it impressive even with a few slipups. The kid was playing the accompaniment as fast as he could (which tended to vary) while our music teacher (who is amazing) was playing the melody.

Wait--actually, that's not the worst.

At my junior high (-enormous- difference from middle school [j/k])'s talent show last year, one of my classmates played the main theme of K331's rondo really really fast, and continued to repeat it about five times without the other themes in between, each faster than the last. Impressive to most, but not really to me.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: steve on January 12, 2005, 12:16:25 AM


108. Believing that one can master the piano even if they let their nails grow to play the guitar as well. ;D ;)



True! I could by no means consider myself a serious pianist, regardless of how much time I might devote to it.  It's not something I am going to pursue a career in (and am already at uni anyway, so the option is no longer open, in any case); but playing the piano is definitely a very fulfilling hobby that I'd want to pursue as long as my fingers permit... and I get to do that without all the stress of performance that real musicians have to put up with :)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pianonut on January 12, 2005, 05:00:52 AM
#115  enters a competition entitled "world competition for amateur pianists" thinking that if he/she wins he/she will have an international career.

#116  wins the competition for amateur pianists and immediately applies to get their hands bronzed for later adulation.

now, i'm all for the competition because there's probably more "you go first" attitude.  and, none of that stuck up stuff.  but, have you ever wondered if the nice guy finishes last or first in that competition?
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: presto agitato on January 13, 2005, 12:58:10 AM
116 She or He thinks that a clasically trainend pianist cant play jazz or blues
117 She or He think that Arrau will be the best ever
118 She or He spends 5 hours posting messages but spends 5 minutes practicing.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: vivacelife on January 13, 2005, 01:50:01 AM
This is funny...lol
On the other hand, what are the ways that you recognize YOURSELF as a pianist? How do YOU define that? What are your reasons? Who can decide???? :o
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: ricwyk on January 13, 2005, 03:13:16 AM
119 only knows pieces that one plays for piano exams
120 thinks music is nothing but beautiful noises.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: chopinguy on January 13, 2005, 02:49:54 PM
120 thinks music is nothing but beautiful noises.

Yes, music theory is very extremely enlightening!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Troldhaugen on January 13, 2005, 08:56:07 PM
36 - when someone says "I' don't like Bach's music because it's boring."
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Glissando on January 13, 2005, 09:15:35 PM
36 - when someone says "I' don't like Bach's music because it's boring."

oooohhh.
that one is soooooo annoying. I've heard it said soooo many times!!!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Etude on January 13, 2005, 09:16:49 PM
36 - when someone says "I' don't like Bach's music because it's boring."

Read the second page, this is actually no. 121.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Troldhaugen on January 14, 2005, 02:33:21 AM
Oops...I didn't know there was a second page....thanks for the correction! ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jbmajor on January 14, 2005, 06:05:26 AM
Has to look at the keys when playing scales, or worse, doesn't know even the basic major/minor scales. 
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Sasha42196 on April 24, 2005, 07:43:54 AM
36.  Spelling Rachmaninoff as Rockmaninoff

37.   Complaining that moving a piano is harder than playing one.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Sasha42196 on April 24, 2005, 08:10:04 AM
Should have been 121-122

121.  Spelling Rachmaninoff as ROCKmaninoff

122.  Complaining that moving a piano is more difficult than playing one.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 24, 2005, 08:52:19 AM
123: making fun of liszt pieces by sayng "reces pieces"
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 24, 2005, 08:56:33 AM
ignoring the best sheet music website ( www.abrahamespinosa.com ) becouse its in another language
 
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 24, 2005, 09:45:39 AM
being mexican
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: ahmedito on April 24, 2005, 10:37:30 AM
I resent that!

I am mexican, and I happen to know several excelent mexican pianists (although Ill grant you that they dont study in Mexico, because I have to admit the quality of piano education IN Mexico is terrible)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: AvoidedCadence on April 24, 2005, 04:54:01 PM
124.   Familiar with stereotypes of every piano composer but none of the literature.

When discussing repertoire, tells you s/he can play Chopin's Op. 10 No 3, and comments on how "beautiful" it is.  Doesn't react when you mention Op. 10 No 4 and the 4th ballade in your repertoire, but when the name Rachmaninoff comes up (two slow preludes - Op 32 5 and 10) exclaims in admiration, "Ooh... the Rachmaninoff pieces are very difficult, aren't they?"  ::)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Kassaa on April 24, 2005, 05:34:51 PM
People who think that Beethoven's fifth symphony is a piano piece. >:(

People who say ta ta ta taaaaaa (fifth symphony) when you tell that you play piano.

Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 24, 2005, 09:28:02 PM
I resent that!

I am mexican, and I happen to know several excelent mexican pianists (although Ill grant you that they dont study in Mexico, because I have to admit the quality of piano education IN Mexico is terrible)

sorry if i seriously offended you..it was only a joke...i too am mexican..and my family doesnt see why i play piano they think im trying to be white...PLUS..i'v never met another mexican pianist...all pianists at my local school are either caucasian or asian....

and its not just piano education thats terrible in mexico...MOST education in mexico is terrible..i schooled there for some years..in Durango...ugh..what a government
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: kilini on April 24, 2005, 09:50:40 PM
125. People who say "WOW" when you play Fur Elise's main theme.

Actually I own a piano arrangement of the fifth symphony. ;D

126. When your teacher thinks you are a child prodigy because you play so much better than her other students and can't notice that it's the stupid way she is teaching them that's crippling them.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 24, 2005, 09:54:24 PM
126. pieople who call piano pieces songs ( me a couple of minutes ago )
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: kilini on April 24, 2005, 09:57:40 PM
Glad you took my advice, pytis, but this was mentioned in the first couple posts.  :)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 24, 2005, 09:58:53 PM
i have bad... whats that thing called again.............................................................................................. .........memory...
there we go
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 24, 2005, 10:17:56 PM
people who only think classical music is good in techno remixes
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: piano_luvr on April 24, 2005, 10:43:21 PM
Are these really lists of people who aren't serious "PIANISTS", or those who aren't "serious" about piano??

Because, I think that a person can be "serious" about learning how to play the piano, but just simply doesn't know (yet) all of the theory, composers, pieces, fingering, etc.  IN onther words, I think that a person can be serious about learning, but simply isn't "educated" in a lot of piano techniques, skils,  and history.  But that doesn't automatcially make someone "uninterested" or "not serious".

Plus, I've always wondered what the real definition of the word "pianist" is anyway.  Is this someone who has been playing piano for 10 years+, competes in competitions,knows music theory,  and can play difficult pieces well?  OR, is a "pianist" simply someone who just plays piano?

I know these questions may sound silly to some (sorry!) but I'm new to the whole piano and music theory area.  I've had private lessons before, and have had a piano in my home since I was 3, but I"m still struggling with music theory and sight-reading.  So, I guess you could say I'm a beginner.  :-/
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: lagin on April 24, 2005, 11:13:23 PM


Quote
68.  Thinks that a hemiola is a disease

What is it?  That's the missing word from my vocabulary definitions and I need to know for a tests in a couple weeks!

BTW, who locked you in a practice room and why :P
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 25, 2005, 01:10:37 AM
127: if you go to their house and its nothing buy beginer books and cd's no intermidiet or advanced

Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Skeptopotamus on April 25, 2005, 02:34:37 AM
when they think Nobuo Uetsumo (or w/e) is the ultimate composer for piano.



But seriously.  I have a more specific example.  I have a friend, and yeah s/he's very nice and all, but im very skeptical (no pun) of his/her real abilities.  (i know alot of people feel the same way about me, but dun change the subject).  I'm obviously not gonna say who it is cause this person is still cool, but i mean really.  this person has only been with a teacher 1 year and without 2 years, and claims:

to be able to play the Prokofiev Sonata No. 1
the shostakovich p/fs are too easy for him/her
s/he claims to have sightread Scarbo and found nothing difficult about it
asked me why some Eb's in one octave didnt make the E's flat in other octaves (or didnt know they werent)
sightread Herma and saw no real difficulty in it, but after explaining to this person that this was as difficult as it is suddenly was agreeing
toys around with Islamei and has no problem with it
memorized/played the first page of the bowen toccata in one day, even though the time s/he claimed to have practiced it was 10PM
claims to play some of the most difficult chopin etudes
was unimpressed with a La Campanella that was played in something like 3 minutes.
didnt know what the Liszt HR 2 was
claimed to be able to play Ligeti's Fanfares
thinks s/he could play the Ginastera Sonata but not the prokofiev toccata
knows almost no music terms
had never heard feux d'artifice and doesnt think it looks too hard
didnt know the names of the pedals


sorry you, but i couldn't help it any more ><  when you claimed to be playing the bowen toccata after only a year of playing, when that piece nearly killed me, it really annoyed me.  Am i just bad and took a long time to learn, or is this person full of BS?


sorry again, but everyone on here thinks im a jerk and i doubt i could change their minds by now, so i don't really have any scruples in doing this, but i am keeping you anonymous, so don't hate me too much =P
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 25, 2005, 02:38:35 AM
you should ask him/her to play in in front of you and see if its BS
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 25, 2005, 02:48:26 AM
... was gona say something but deleted it nm
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Skeptopotamus on April 25, 2005, 04:39:26 AM
i dont know this person in real life, so i cant, and they dont have a mic or cam.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 25, 2005, 05:02:02 AM
if its online chating than i would say its around 60%-70% BS think about it how many times you lied online to impress someone that they cant prove that its false
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Skeptopotamus on April 25, 2005, 05:30:16 AM
........... *is thinking*



definitely BS ^^
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Kassaa on April 25, 2005, 05:33:11 AM
125. People who say "WOW" when you play Fur Elise's main theme.

Actually I own a piano arrangement of the fifth symphony. ;D

126. When your teacher thinks you are a child prodigy because you play so much better than her other students and can't notice that it's the stupid way she is teaching them that's crippling them.

Yeah yeah, I know that Liszt made a piano transcription, but the people who know that are pretty serious I think ;)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: tds on April 25, 2005, 11:43:06 AM
128. proud to be able to play "furry leaves"* tds ;D

* THE cute piece
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Skeptopotamus on April 25, 2005, 08:05:00 PM
when you get over to their place and all they have is a 40 key keyboard.
when they ask you why there are pound signs all over their music.



and cmon guys.  all of us at one point thought the Moonlight Sonata and Fur Elise and Turkish March was the epitome of virtuosity.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pytis on April 25, 2005, 10:44:35 PM
turkish march is like my fave piace i can play. it RULLEZZZ becouse my sis used to play it to me when i was little... ahh memories
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 25, 2005, 11:03:17 PM
when they say Mozart has fury..and lacks the moisture...and when one is tight wit dey bad self..
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: nanabush on April 27, 2005, 01:37:16 AM
129:  should I sculpt the penis?
130:  do I play with my penis?
131:  do I conduct with my penis?
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: thierry13 on April 27, 2005, 01:38:34 AM
129: should I sculpt the penis?
130: do I play with my penis?
131: do I conduct with my penis?


?? OMG....  :o
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 27, 2005, 05:52:30 AM
129:  should I sculpt the penis?
130:  do I play with my penis?
131:  do I conduct with my penis?

Nick Pelletier is that you!?!?!..whats up man how you been?!?!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: nanabush on April 27, 2005, 08:37:07 PM
Nick Pelletier is that you!?!?!..whats up man how you been?!?!

Ya it's me, sorry but who are you again?...
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: i_m_robot on April 28, 2005, 06:52:54 AM

2- When playing the third movement of the moonlight, will play the left hand in C major and and right hand in C# minor

self is guilty of this

self was just toying with this piece  (beginner)

however

self did notice something was wrong :P
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: i_m_robot on April 28, 2005, 07:22:40 AM


One can easily discern the segment of society not promoting, unequivocally, his or her unrelenting sentiment toward being a pianist by observing two pivotal factors.

132: He or she demonstrates or expresses an outward, general disdain for the instrument currently in discussion whilst, en même temps, appropriately illuminating the complete and total absense of said instrument within his or her residence.

133: He or she, whilst in the mist of conversing about said instrument, gives a quote similar yet not limited to, Yes, I study the 88, but, sadly, I must concede, my engrossment is substantially lax or limited to enjoyment for sheer aesthetic value.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 28, 2005, 07:56:32 AM
Ya it's me, sorry but who are you again?...

ah you have no idea who i am..and i have no idea who you are..for i just got your name from your email adress MUAHAHAHA welcome to PF..its great here make yourself at home
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 28, 2005, 08:03:20 AM


One can easily discern the segment of society not promoting, unequivocally, his or her unrelenting sentiment toward being a pianist by observing two pivotal factors.

132: He or she demonstrates or expresses an outward, general disdain for the instrument currently in discussion whilst, en même temps, appropriately illuminating the complete and total absense of said instrument within his or her residence.

133: He or she, whilst in the mist of conversing about said instrument, gives a quote similar yet not limited to, Yes, I study the 88, but, sadly, I must concede, my engrossment is substantially lax or limited to enjoyment for sheer aesthetic value.


Translation for Hoodlum Minorities:

132: This foo be frontin like diss his turf but he aint even up on dat mouth piece n aint even keepin it real wit his homies bout how he be on doze pizziano keys like dey be on fiah.!!

132: Dude be talkin smack like he all up on doze black n whites but on da real, foo cant even reprezent like iss bout it bout it. So dis jigga be straight posin like a down loc G at da Pizzy..but on da real, juzz innit fo' da ladies...word

Thank you for endulging yourselves in Ghetto Translation.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: bernhard on April 28, 2005, 09:39:09 AM
ah you have no idea who i am..and i have no idea who you are..for i just got your name from your email adress MUAHAHAHA welcome to PF..its great here make yourself at home

One of the funniest things I've ever read. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Lischoalk on April 28, 2005, 10:01:49 AM
133: Short hair.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: i_m_robot on April 28, 2005, 10:10:54 AM
Quote
Translation for Hoodlum Minorities:

132: This foo be frontin like diss his turf but he aint even up on dat mouth piece n aint even keepin it real wit his homies bout how he be on doze pizziano keys like dey be on fiah.!!

132: Dude be talkin smack like he all up on doze black n whites but on da real, foo cant even reprezent like iss bout it bout it. So dis jigga be straight posin like a down loc G at da Pizzy..but on da real, juzz innit fo' da ladies...word

actually self believes the translation would be something like this

132: Some cat says dey hate the 88 and dat dey don even own a piano

133: I ONLY LIKE FUR ELISE TIGHTWAD!!!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: i_m_robot on April 28, 2005, 10:30:01 AM
133: Short hair.

Self takes offense to this.

This is clearly a specist statement >:(.

 :-* just kidding

134 (skip any?): Another aspect allowing one to easy discern the so-called serious pianist from the blahzay is the attire of the pianist. Any serious pianist always dressed in only the most expensive of tuxedo, making sure it solid black as white and other colors arreserved for quayars and the hopelessly confused. He has his shoes polished by personal servant only. Never tip, the servant knows his place. He must always approach the piano from the stage front, place his left hand upon the piano, and take a bow, never bending to little or too much. He avoids rude jesters, such as flailing of one's arms and wobbling of ones head whilst grimacing, in order to appear better in control of his intrument. At the conclusion of his performance he always plays an encore after taking three bows. The encore should be no shorter than three minute, but no longer than ten -regardless of whatever fatigue he feels from his previous performance. He must make it lively so as to wake those who feel asleep during the sonata part of the program. After the encore he must meet with audience and reporters alike where he must, with great emphasis, deny he has any talent whatsoever, so as to not harm the fragile egos of his adoring fans. He must hunch slightly and never raise his head to high in an attempt to be more approachable.

Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 28, 2005, 10:54:49 PM
Self takes offense to this.

This is clearly a specist statement >:(.

 :-* just kidding

134 (skip any?): Another aspect allowing one to easy discern the so-called serious pianist from the blahzay is the attire of the pianist. Any serious pianist always dressed in only the most expensive of tuxedo, making sure it solid black as white and other colors arreserved for quayars and the hopelessly confused. He has his shoes polished by personal servant only. Never tip, the servant knows his place. He must always approach the piano from the stage front, place his left hand upon the piano, and take a bow, never bending to little or too much. He avoids rude jesters, such as flailing of one's arms and wobbling of ones head whilst grimacing, in order to appear better in control of his intrument. At the conclusion of his performance he always plays an encore after taking three bows. The encore should be no shorter than three minute, but no longer than ten -regardless of whatever fatigue he feels from his previous performance. He must make it lively so as to wake those who feel asleep during the sonata part of the program. After the encore he must meet with audience and reporters alike where he must, with great emphasis, deny he has any talent whatsoever, so as to not harm the fragile egos of his adoring fans. He must hunch slightly and never raise his head to high in an attempt to be more approachable.



Ghetto Translation:

134: Aight check-it...Foo be reppin n sportin mad threads, nah mean?...he be alwayz flossin n poppin collaz n he always up on doze new kicks..makin sure he be duztin da dirt off hiz shouldah....foo alwayz gotta be comin through struttin n comin correct up on dat piano-piece...dis dude be always keepin it on da down low n neva makin fooz scrurrrred wit gang signs...cuz he juss tryna be bout uit bout it fo da ladies....when homiez wanna hear sum mo of dat pizzy...jigga always up on par but neva takin too long on doze crazy 88's...he be playin it crazily to wake peeps who aint showin love, nah mean?...when foo be done...he juss be sayin iss all nuffin..he  be sayin he juss keepin it real so dat jiggas dont hate on his style....he also be keepin dat gangsta limp..to let da posse know he got street cret n can  hang wit da most...WORD...
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: etudes on April 28, 2005, 10:58:47 PM
think that we can learn all of the Classical Music Repertoire in 3-5 years  :'(
that is the real thing
that my friend who are very bad at piano and change his mind to study jazz... :P
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: daral on April 29, 2005, 02:20:56 AM
135: Thinks a Yamaha is a Japanese car.
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Post by: tds on April 29, 2005, 02:59:27 AM
Ghetto Translation:

134: Aight check-it...Foo be reppin n sportin mad threads, nah mean?...he be alwayz flossin n poppin collaz n he always up on doze new kicks..makin sure he be duztin da dirt off hiz shouldah....foo alwayz gotta be comin through struttin n comin correct up on dat piano-piece...dis dude be always keepin it on da down low n neva makin fooz scrurrrred wit gang signs...cuz he juss tryna be bout uit bout it fo da ladies....when homiez wanna hear sum mo of dat pizzy...jigga always up on par but neva takin too long on doze crazy 88's...he be playin it crazily to wake peeps who aint showin love, nah mean?...when foo be done...he juss be sayin iss all nuffin..he  be sayin he juss keepin it real so dat jiggas dont hate on his style....he also be keepin dat gangsta limp..to let da posse know he got street cret n can  hang wit da most...WORD...

gosh, i wish i were proficient with ghetto accent. mmm, is it as hard as learning french? siberian husky, you rock!
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Post by: i_m_robot on April 29, 2005, 04:00:48 AM
Ghetto Translation:

134: Aight check-it...Foo be reppin n sportin mad threads, nah mean?...he be alwayz flossin n poppin collaz n he always up on doze new kicks..makin sure he be duztin da dirt off hiz shouldah....foo alwayz gotta be comin through struttin n comin correct up on dat piano-piece...dis dude be always keepin it on da down low n neva makin fooz scrurrrred wit gang signs...cuz he juss tryna be bout uit bout it fo da ladies....when homiez wanna hear sum mo of dat pizzy...jigga always up on par but neva takin too long on doze crazy 88's...he be playin it crazily to wake peeps who aint showin love, nah mean?...when foo be done...he juss be sayin iss all nuffin..he  be sayin he juss keepin it real so dat jiggas dont hate on his style....he also be keepin dat gangsta limp..to let da posse know he got street cret n can  hang wit da most...WORD...

 ;D

couldn't have said it better self's self
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: rob47 on April 29, 2005, 04:11:04 AM
136.  Get's drunk and posts on a piano forum, rambling on about nothing.  And also smells like me.
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Post by: Siberian Husky on April 29, 2005, 09:03:03 AM
136.  Get's drunk and posts on a piano forum, rambling on about nothing.  And also smells like me.

Unerlining Translation:
136: im so drunk right now..why am i even posting on the pianoforum with such a high volume of alcohol content..*rob slaps his face* GET IT TOGETHER MAN.......hey...i havnt taken a shower in 5 days...and NO ONE has SAID a THING  8)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: rob47 on April 29, 2005, 04:47:37 PM
Unerlining Translation:
136: im so drunk right now..why am i even posting on the pianoforum with such a high volume of alcohol content..*rob slaps his face* GET IT TOGETHER MAN.......hey...i havnt taken a shower in 5 days...and NO ONE has SAID a THING  8)

hahaha thats hilarious, but I was sober when i posted #135.

But seriously it did happen a couple months ago....ask Bernhard...he made fun of me for it
 8)

Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: kilini on April 29, 2005, 05:49:58 PM
Actually, I would bet a cookie that the guy used Gizoogle.

Go to Gizoogle.com It's ghetto Google!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on April 29, 2005, 06:43:34 PM
im familiar with gizoogle..but..hand over that cookie..cause i didnt use it...

dont be jealous of my hoodlum skills...
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Post by: i_m_robot on May 01, 2005, 07:05:45 AM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ;D




https://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2147.msg18265.html#msg18265



 8)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Rach3 on May 01, 2005, 09:00:45 AM
137. Doesn't have a regular pair of black dress shoes for performance (I did, i just couldn't find them in time!) so substitutes black, cleated athletic shoes instead. And gets away with it!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jim_24601 on May 01, 2005, 03:01:38 PM
137. Doesn't have a regular pair of black dress shoes for performance (I did, i just couldn't find them in time!) so substitutes black, cleated athletic shoes instead. And gets away with it!

I did more or less the same in a singing competition a little while back - my only halfway-smart pair of black shoes had disintegrated on the way back from an after-show party (walking from the Barbican to Stamford Hill instead of waiting for a bus sounds like a great idea when you're drunk!) so I slopped a bit of Shumagic on my great clumpy steel toecapped clubbing boots and wore those. And got away with it.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who does the one-hand-one-key other-hand-other thing while sightreading. Mind, I'm a terribly sloppy sightreader - I usually look at the key signature about 3 or 4 bars into the piece.

Oh, am I forgetting something?

138. When sightreading a piece, doesn't check the key signature until half way through the first page.

139. Looks neat when starting to play and still looks neat after finishing.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: tenn on May 02, 2005, 08:29:16 PM
Uses a little wooden mock keyboard so he can practise while watching television.
Really!!  The same teacher also recommended stuffing a teatowel behind the strings of a guitar for the same purpose.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: nanabush on May 03, 2005, 12:15:42 AM
Plays a song an octave too high for the entire song for the entire competition....I swear that happened, and no one noticed until after then it was like a punch in the face we were like  :o what just happend!!
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Siberian Husky on May 03, 2005, 01:28:35 AM
thinks wurlitzer is the best brand....

now im stuck with it :'(
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: thierry13 on May 03, 2005, 02:10:53 AM
Plays a song an octave too high for the entire song for the entire competition....

140. calls a piece a song  ::) (just kidding, don't take this as an attack  ;))
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: abell88 on May 03, 2005, 11:46:33 AM
141. Puts the pedal down and holds it down for the whole piece, while playing "Blue Spanish Eyes" in 6ths. 
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Luiszt on May 06, 2005, 03:22:48 AM
Hello!

When you say...

1._ Hanon is a genious!, he really knows the keyboard!

2._(after play Hanon)...Czerny is a poetry!
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Post by: thierry13 on May 06, 2005, 05:37:54 AM
143. Spell Liszt : Luiszt ...
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Post by: Siberian Husky on May 06, 2005, 07:02:22 AM
144. thinks Siberian Husky is not attractive
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: i_m_robot on May 06, 2005, 09:35:54 PM
 ;D

145. When one plays the "Black Key" etude in C major
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 13, 2008, 07:49:45 PM
 one hundred and something: have problems spelling the word "dodecaphony" (real story: duostecatony was only one of the attempted versions);
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: berrt on January 13, 2008, 10:37:22 PM
one hundred and something: have problems spelling the word "dodecaphony" (real story: duostecatony was only one of the attempted versions);

it's ugly anyway... ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: ahkow on January 15, 2008, 05:46:17 AM
Playing/Practicing without proper posture
Thinks that 3/4 is 6/8
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Post by: spaciiey on January 15, 2008, 11:26:40 AM
147: thinks that an appoggiatura and an acciacatura are the same thing.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 15, 2008, 12:23:16 PM
Thinks that 3/4 is 6/8
148(?): thinks that 6/8 have six times (and never played a music in 12/anything)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: counterpoint on January 15, 2008, 12:58:36 PM
Playing/Practicing without proper posture



I thought, this tread is about recognizing a person who is not a serious pianist...  ::)
















 ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 15, 2008, 02:46:57 PM

I thought, this tread is about recognizing a person who is not a serious pianist...  ::)

 ;D

 ;D
 gould was the first who came to your mind too?
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Post by: thalberg on January 16, 2008, 01:13:13 AM
149:  Can only play at one dynamic level
150:  Or:  Always speeds up when it's loud and slows down when it's soft
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: spaciiey on January 16, 2008, 03:27:17 AM
151: only ever plays the most recognised themes from all the overplayed songs.
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Post by: thalberg on January 16, 2008, 08:32:33 PM
152:  Plays "Heart and Soul."  (Even one offense on this will brand you as a non serious musician forever)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dougiedog on January 17, 2008, 01:40:15 AM
My my... those last ones I'll have to admit will be a tiny bit offensive to many here.

34- Liberace...

35- Doesn't really see the difference between what he hears in his CD of Horowitz plays the Tchaikovsky concertos and the version he plays from "Classic themes for children"....  (Ugh, one of my ex-students)

I gotta ask, wahut was wrong with Liberace?  you know victor Borge used to sit on his bench backwards sometimes among other things. lol
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 17, 2008, 02:04:29 AM
what was wrong with Liberace?

nothing at all i should say.

(https://oregonmag.com/Liberace.jpg)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerry on January 17, 2008, 04:05:07 AM
116 She or He thinks that a clasically trainend pianist cant play jazz or blues
117 She or He think that Arrau will be the best ever
118 She or He spends 5 hours posting messages but spends 5 minutes practicing.

I think Arrau's Schumann interpretations are among the best ever.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: counterpoint on January 17, 2008, 10:17:00 AM
153.  People who think, playing fast is the main problem for a pianist.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dougiedog on January 17, 2008, 02:27:51 PM
nothing at all i should say.

(https://oregonmag.com/Liberace.jpg)
LOL the man did love his clothes. He did play very well though.
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Post by: Petter on January 18, 2008, 02:31:01 PM
154. Someone who reasons in terms of good and bad based on biased opinions passed on by somebody else.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 20, 2008, 02:22:18 AM
154. Someone who reasons in terms of good and bad based on biased opinions passed on by somebody else.
as the opinions sent forth in a forum?  ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dnephi on January 22, 2008, 08:19:18 PM
155.  Thinks Liszt is empty show.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: point of grace on January 22, 2008, 08:51:36 PM
nothing at all i should say.

(https://oregonmag.com/Liberace.jpg)

ok! but if he´s happy... =P
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 24, 2008, 01:19:32 AM
ok! but if he´s happy... =P
i would say that he was much more than happy...  ;D

 in time, i have nothing against liberace. he had a remarkable career in the entertainment industry, and as far as i know he never pretend to be more than this.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: bonjing on January 30, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
156. Not a Piano Major

 
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: mattgreenecomposer on January 31, 2008, 10:13:08 AM
157.  Actually enjoys accompanying singers.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerryjay on January 31, 2008, 11:08:58 AM
157.  Actually enjoys accompanying singers.
hey...i do!!!  ;D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: point of grace on January 31, 2008, 03:18:54 PM
158. They dont "say" nothing when they play
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: rhapsody4 on January 31, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
159. Believes that the ending of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody #2 requires the most complex thought process known to man and calls it a "level 10 technique" that the likes of Rachmaninov, Hamelin and Horowitz had to fake because they do/did not have the ability to process the required 20 variables in order to play "40 confusing hand changes in 3 seconds".
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: thalberg on January 31, 2008, 10:22:14 PM
159. Believes that the ending of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody #2 requires the most complex thought process known to man and calls it a "level 10 technique" that the likes of Rachmaninov, Hamelin and Horowitz had to fake because they do/did not have the ability to process the required 20 variables in order to play "40 confusing hand changes in 3 seconds".

I love it.  Nice one!  :)

160.  Comes out to play the Tchaikovsky Bb concerto with an orchestra, splatters the first three chords and then throws up all over the keys.  (true story)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: rhapsody4 on January 31, 2008, 10:37:40 PM
161. Signs up to a piano forum website and occasionally leaves samples of their playing in the form of MIDI files or excerpts of professional performances and expects this to be enough to get da respekt, innit?
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: counterpoint on January 31, 2008, 11:24:49 PM
160.  Comes out to play the Tchaikovsky Bb concerto with an orchestra, splatters the first three chords and then throws up all over the keys.  (true story)

Who was that...?  ::)




















Tschaikowsky?  :D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: Bob on February 01, 2008, 12:09:17 AM
If they're not playing "big" pieces anymore.  :(  I'm only able to do small ones now.  I fear I'm losing it.  I can't imagine devoting a few hours every day to just one piece and to do that for six months?   That would be all I did then for piano.  *sigh*  It makes me wonder if I'm not serious about it anymore.  Or not serious enough.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: mjin1 on February 03, 2008, 12:22:24 PM
159. Believes that the ending of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody #2 requires the most complex thought process known to man and calls it a "level 10 technique" that the likes of Rachmaninov, Hamelin and Horowitz had to fake because they do/did not have the ability to process the required 20 variables in order to play "40 confusing hand changes in 3 seconds".

Oh my god dude, did you see the argument on youtube? It's the most ignorant stupidity and just ridiculous legend crap I have ever seen.

For those who don't know apparently there's a youtube video of Rachmaninov actually playing the second hungarian rhapsody, and there's this massive comment argument about how people have to fake 'teh real ending' because it's just too hard.

The best is "Only a level 10 virtuoso or higher could actually play the real one" - A quote from one of them.

Just so ridiculous. I guess people just love to keep up that mentality that Liszt was somehow this immortal pianist and will remain so until the end of time.. I mean I like his stuff, but freaking Hungarian Rhapsody no2 is NOT the mystical unbeatable piece that these tards make it out to be.

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Post by: thalberg on February 07, 2008, 03:12:00 AM
Who was that...?  ::)

A friend of mine in graduate school said it happened in his undergrad.  It was a girl at his school.  She was quite nervous.

162.  Pronounces Liszt as "Litz" (true story)
163.  Announces that they "don't have any finger coordination." (true story)
164.  cleans the piano keys with baby wipes (true story--left them very gunky...okay these are all true stories)
165.  only plays the piano when drunk
166.  constantly announces that Mozart was a genius but has no idea why
167.  was not aware that grand pianos come in different sizes
168.  thinks all pianos sound the same
169.  cannot tell when a piano is out of tune
170.  walks into your house and drops their coat and backpack onto your grand piano (I almost died)
171.  Attempts to pass their piano exam by playing their scales one octave, one hand
172.  was not aware you have to practice every day to get good
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gerry on February 07, 2008, 03:50:43 AM
173: Visits your house, observes your Bosie 225 and later tells friends that you have a beautiful baby grand in your living room.
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Post by: thalberg on February 07, 2008, 08:27:39 PM
yes gerry for some people they're all babies.  I have had that experience too.
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Post by: point of grace on February 12, 2008, 08:03:31 PM
166.  constantly announces that Mozart was a genius but has no idea why


oh, soo true! and with any composer too!!!
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Post by: soderlund on February 12, 2008, 10:22:03 PM
174. Asks if you can play any of Chopin's symphonies on the piano.

Did happen...
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Post by: counterpoint on February 12, 2008, 11:30:19 PM
174. Asks if you can play any of Chopin's symphonies on the piano.

Did happen...

oh!  :o

and not to forget all of his operas...
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Post by: cluster on February 13, 2008, 01:23:37 PM
I don't agree with the one about people who can play but don't know about theory or history of music - some of the best pianists don't understand harmony or historical period at all. It's odd isn't it? 
 
Non-serious pianists always go around saying "The trouble is I don't practice enough"  or "If only I had more technique", whereas serious ones say "The trouble is I don't practice double thirds enough" or "If only I had more rallentando technique".  There's a subtle difference in the mental process there! 
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Post by: munkygurl on February 15, 2008, 08:51:55 AM
also from 'all by myself' by whoever it's by

and also thinks that pachabel's canon in d maj was inspired by vitamin c's graduation song- story from yr10 when watching an australian movie on the vietnam war with nicole kidma in it made back in the 80's or something, the theme piece was pachabel's canon, and my friend goes 'why are they playing the graduation song...' and i'm like 'you moron it's a canon that was written several hundred years before the graduation song' but seriously how can you NOT know that?!

lol omg I hate it when people do that! It's so frustrating lol.... even worse, when they hear something and go, what song is that I've heard it before... umm just because it has a similar technique or chord progression or sounds vaguely familiar does not mean you've heard it before!!!! argh just letting go of some anger I can't describe to my friends when they do it to me
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Post by: keypeg on February 15, 2008, 02:24:04 PM
How about the old "Drink milk" commercial, to which people would sing the milk lyrics, instead of "Freude, schoene Goetterfunken" ... um, maybe "drink milk, drink milk, drink milk" is easier to pronounce.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: imchopin on February 15, 2008, 07:07:53 PM
This list has officially determined I am not a serious pianist.  BOO HOO!  Where's my baseball bat, I am throwing away my piano!  ::) ;D

140. calls a piece a song  ::) (just kidding, don't take this as an attack  ;))

I love that song called Symphony #9.  Moonlight is also a top 40 hit song, in the AC Billboard Hot 100.  I guess I better trash my copy of Bartok's 'Hungarian Peasant Songs', oh wait....

170.  walks into your house and drops their coat and backpack onto your grand piano (I almost died)

This is #1 for me.  When people sit a beverage, car-keys, coats, purses, etc. on their shiny grand I want to throw-up in their face.  Many people (like myself) do not have an acoustic grand in their home.  Ah...the annoyances in life...
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: thalberg on February 15, 2008, 11:08:37 PM
This is #1 for me.  When people sit a beverage, car-keys, coats, purses, etc. on their shiny grand I want to throw-up in their face.  Many people (like myself) do not have an acoustic grand in their home.  Ah...the annoyances in life...

Yes!!  Indeed.  In my case, I was a graduate student in a tiny apartment with a grand piano.  Someone walked in and just took of their backpack and set it right on top of my piano.  I was so upset I could not breathe.
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Post by: tanman on July 01, 2008, 01:18:03 PM
Thinks that the Starwars and the Indiana Jones theme song was composed by Raffmaninoff.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: emmas_dad on July 01, 2008, 01:37:14 PM
29 - Whoever is trying to learn without taking lessons (sorry, I think so)


I'm sorry, but I have to take exception to this one. Some of us can't afford to take lessons, or can't find the time. I work full time, have two young children, and have little extra money. Still, I'm up every morning at 4 am to practice, and I'm at the piano again after we've finally got our kids to sleep. I read everything I can about piano technique and classical music in general, I listen to every recording I can of the great pianists, I pay very close attention when I play to make sure I'm doing everything I can to play well and to learn from what I'm doing.

I'd LOVE to take lessons, but I'm just not able. And the two teachers I had when I was a teenager were terrible! They never talked about technique, not even fingerings.
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Post by: thierry13 on July 01, 2008, 03:11:31 PM
I love that song called Symphony #9.  Moonlight is also a top 40 hit song, in the AC Billboard Hot 100.  I guess I better trash my copy of Bartok's 'Hungarian Peasant Songs', oh wait....

I don't know AC Billboard, but it sure is nothing too serious or any valid if it called moonlight a "song". Also for Bartok, it's the correct way to call it since they ARE songs. Songs are sung, with voice. If nobody SINGS, it's not a song. Now I am guessing there is no voice in the Bartok, but it was based on actually sung  song. Your irony is just making you look stupid, you better stop it right now  ;)
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Post by: gerryjay on July 02, 2008, 04:34:18 AM
171.  Attempts to pass their piano exam by playing their scales one octave, one hand

rofl...

btw, there are two amazing stories about exams, from my undergraduate times:

situation: admission exam, guitar. program: scales and the like, some works to choose from a list (including villa-lobos, sor, bach).
 - teacher: could you please tell us what pieces from the list did you choose and why?
 - guitarist: sorry? err...list?
 - teacher: yes! the repertory list!
 - guitarist: there is a repertory list?! i thought i could play my own improvisations here!

****

situation: admission exam, piano. program: among other stuff, a fast movement from a classical sonata. selection made by the pianist and her teacher: beethoven's opus 27/2, first movement...


best wishes!
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Post by: ryanyee on July 02, 2008, 02:11:29 PM
11 - Has a bad sense of fashion.

(https://www.diners.hr/magazin/datoteke/broj_32/maksim%203.jpg)
what sorta fashion r u talking about? modern or the good ol' wear from the times of the masters?
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Post by: ryanyee on July 02, 2008, 02:14:21 PM
people who play modern music only and nothing more.
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Post by: oscarr111111 on July 02, 2008, 06:45:08 PM
People who play music from the past and nothing more  ;)
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Post by: Etude on July 02, 2008, 08:05:36 PM
People who play music from the past and nothing more  ;)

QFT
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Post by: tanman on July 03, 2008, 03:44:06 AM
spells fur elise Fleur De Lis. actually happened. haha
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Post by: ryanyee on July 03, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
well since u said that then perhaps you can tell me y modern music is better than music from the past? it's noise 2 me n i'm sure it is 2 alot of others.
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Post by: oscarr111111 on July 03, 2008, 01:32:04 PM
well since u said that then perhaps you can tell me y modern music is better than music from the past? it's noise 2 me n i'm sure it is 2 alot of others.

It was an inclusive addition, a serious musician will play a full spectrum of music and will be able to appreciate music thats not his primary avenue.  Also if you're going to play the 'modern music lacks culture' card (yea you didn't say that, but you're going down that avenue), then typing in 'txt spk' doesn't help your argument.

Out of interest, what 'modern music' are you talking about that just sound like 'noise'?

Cheers.
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Post by: etcetra on July 03, 2008, 01:43:22 PM
I've witnessed several occasions where a piano player (playing in non-recital setting) had to deal with drunk people who think they know something about piano music because they had couple of lessons in their lives.   

It's happened to one of my teacher once, he is a very accomplished jazz pianist, and he's has been the piano player for many notable jazz vocalists.. and I seriously wanted to smack the guy who is harrassing him to play Take Five or The girl of Ipanema. Some of Them will ask you to play something like Chopin Etudes, just to test how good you really are. 

One of my favorite story comes from keith jarrett  .  He was playing at this hotel a long time ago (long before he made a name for himself in the jazz scene).. God knows why but this lady, came up to him and asked him to play Ravel's Bolero.  So Keith decided to play the piece..... in its entirety (probably by ear), I don't know what happened to the lady but it would be fair to assume that she did not stay to listen to the entire thing.

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Post by: etcetra on July 03, 2008, 01:48:54 PM
Also I've met this one guy  who called himself a pianist..He knew a lot of pop songs and it was quite impressive.. I just wish he played more than the melody and basic triads.  I think he was trying to impress this girl at the party, but she looked really bored after the first two songs.
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Post by: ryanyee on July 03, 2008, 02:45:57 PM
noise as in rock, heavy metal.. but none of those pieces, i presume can be played on the piano. well but i was trying 2 say that playing only modern music on the piano isnt beneficial is it?
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Post by: hildegarde on July 03, 2008, 03:22:58 PM
175. Thinks that if they complete their piano method, they can play anything!  (This was me when I was little.  I remember looking at Level 7 of the Alfred D'Auberge books and thinking they were incredibly complicated.)   ::)
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Post by: oscarr111111 on July 03, 2008, 03:28:34 PM
noise as in rock, heavy metal.. but none of those pieces, i presume can be played on the piano. well but i was trying 2 say that playing only modern music on the piano isnt beneficial is it?

The whole 'rock music is just noise' thing is just uninformed classical pretentiousness, and almost all rock/metal/pop etc. can be very well translated to piano if you choose to do that.

And as I said, a serious musician should play the full spectrum, the phrase 'move forward while looking back' seems relevant here.
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Post by: gerryjay on July 03, 2008, 03:48:56 PM
 oh, well...i don't like to argue, but the discussions just entered my backyard.

 176. a piano student that don't play everything, from renaissance to new composed music (notice that most of the time it's due to a non-serious-musician teacher)

 177. a pianist - after those formative years - that don't have the creativity to develop a unique repertory, and stuck to mainstream music only (and there is no excuse: even if someone must play that because of her/his professional career, there is always space for something different).

ps: by unique repertory i mean only that. it may include chopin's opus 66, eventually...  :P
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Post by: dougiedog on July 03, 2008, 08:51:57 PM

Just on general principle you could be dead serious about piano and still play like your wearing ski gloves yuk. ;D
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Post by: ryanyee on July 04, 2008, 12:43:49 PM
then i wonder why all those famous professionals like glenn gould, vladimir horowitz. all of them out there didn record any of them. if they did play modern music, then should'nt there be some of their recordings 4 these kinda music so it at least makes it easier 4 people 2 learn or understand them?
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Post by: oscarr111111 on July 04, 2008, 01:04:57 PM
then i wonder why all those famous professionals like glenn gould, vladimir horowitz. all of them out there didn record any of them. if they did play modern music, then should'nt there be some of their recordings 4 these kinda music so it at least makes it easier 4 people 2 learn or understand them?

Use your head, most pianists play music which is modern at the time in droves, now of course a lot of it is dated.  Thats the thing about modern music you see, it doesn't stay modern for very long.
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Post by: Etude on July 04, 2008, 03:24:04 PM
then i wonder why all those famous professionals like glenn gould, vladimir horowitz. all of them out there didn record any of them. if they did play modern music, then should'nt there be some of their recordings 4 these kinda music so it at least makes it easier 4 people 2 learn or understand them?

You picked the worst examples possible.  Horowitz played Prokofiev and Barber etc.  And Gould also played the serial composers...
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Post by: gerryjay on July 04, 2008, 04:38:23 PM
You picked the worst examples possible. Horowitz played Prokofiev and Barber etc. And Gould also played the serial composers...
exactly what I thougt. when did he record webern? it was in the early sixties, wasn't it? since the music was composed in 1936, it was quite fresh at the time. if he was alive and recording now a days, he would play boulez or berio for sure (along with renaissance, bach, 19th century music, ie, everything).
 best!
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Post by: Etude on July 04, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
I'm not all that knowledgeable on Gould and Horowitz, if I'm honest, I just know that they did play such music.  I'm sure hearing Gould play a Sorabji fugue might've been quite something!
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Post by: ryanyee on July 05, 2008, 12:35:35 PM
i was talking about pop, rock stuff all of that! of course i know they played 20th century music but what about all those non-classical stuff?
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Post by: healdie on July 06, 2008, 02:39:06 PM
noise as in rock, heavy metal.. but none of those pieces, i presume can be played on the piano. well but i was trying 2 say that playing only modern music on the piano isnt beneficial is it?

check out Yngwie Malmsteen a sweedish rock guitar virtuoso, he has more than just classical influences in his playing he also has done a concerto suite for electric guitar and orchestra check it out,  :D

 also ever heard meat loafs bat ot of hell i'm sorry but the piano part is very  prominant in this and many other rock songs, john lord did many barouqe influenced organ solos in bands like deep purple so yes pianos are used in heavy metal and rock music

another example rock virtuoso Tony Macalpine he plays guitar and piano, it is common to find Chopin etudes mixed in with his rock instrumentals in his albums
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Post by: keypeg on July 06, 2008, 07:01:26 PM
Um Healdie.  Would you mind putting in some commas and periods.  Your post is close to incomprehensible presently.   :) ???
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Post by: xpjamiexd on August 28, 2008, 02:49:11 PM
177. Refers to arpeggios as "those crazy things he does with his hands".
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Post by: point of grace on March 22, 2010, 10:59:47 PM
178: the ones who surprise when you tell them that Yamaha is a piano. Not just a moto!
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Post by: pianist7 on March 23, 2010, 09:01:23 PM
179: Doesn't realize Moonlight is in C# minor, and that there's more than the first mvt
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Post by: point of grace on March 23, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
179: Doesn't realize Moonlight is in C# minor, and that there's more than the first mvt
that's true! a lot of people play simplified versions in other keys!!!  :o :-X
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Post by: doryanne on March 24, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
This started with the intent to laugh a bit at the people that pretend to be what they are not.
I don't think it was meant to hurt those who know little but admit it.
The best example is myself: I am an amateur, I started taking piano lessons last year and I will never get to be a professional, but I do it for the pleasure of my heart as I love the piano. At the same time, my theoretical knowledge is and will be limited, as I do not go to Conservatory - I have a job that has nothing to do with the piano  :)
However, in cases like these  people like me will feel a bit (or more) hurt  even if the irony is not aimed at them.
Conclusion: be careful whome you laugh at and make the difference between boasters and those who have difficulties in learning the piano  :)
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Post by: pianisten1989 on March 24, 2010, 01:30:17 PM
that's true! a lot of people play simplified versions in other keys!!!  :o :-X
A friend of mine, playing the violin, was about to do an audition to a music academy. The ones who doesn't play the piano or guitar as main instrument has to play "chord-instrument". So her teacher told her to play the raindrop prelude like 2 month before the audition. 2 or 3 days before the audition she ask me if I could listen her playing, and ofc I did.
And she started on e, instead of f, and with a c-chord in the base! I was like: what? So her TEACHER gave her an edition in the wrong key.. And oh, the middle part was missing :P

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Post by: royandrew on April 04, 2010, 12:27:16 AM
150:  Or:  Always speeds up when it's loud and slows down when it's soft

Man I have this problem. Dont know how to get rid of it. Any tips? May be i need a metronome.

(No, I am not a serious pianist. Just a newbie.)
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Post by: prongated on April 04, 2010, 03:16:11 AM
16.  Posts on a piano forum instead of playing  :P

So...

180. Posts, in a public piano forum, terrible recordings of pieces being sight-read, instead of practising them until they are good.
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Post by: ponken on April 04, 2010, 07:53:05 AM
- 180. Thinks that you are playing a piece wrong just because you interpret it differently than the pianist they are used to hear.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dss62467 on April 08, 2010, 05:57:19 PM
Dabblers, debutantes... people who act like they play but dont. Here 1000000 ways  taken from real life preferably with which to recognize someone who acts big but who really doesn't have a clue about playing the piano:

1- Believes Fur Elise is the Everest of piano repertoire, only second to the moonlight sonata.

2- When playing the third movement of the moonlight, will play the left hand in C major and and right hand in C# minor without realizing something is wrong. (This actually happened in an audition at mi older conservatoire, needless to say the tone-deaf interpreter was stopped after 6 measures)...

(Feel free to continue:)

While I am certainly not what you'd consider a "serious" pianist, I'd consider myself a serious piano hobbyist... I get a chuckle out of the Fur Elise comment.   I was chatting with a lady last summer who said she played until her piano teacher made her play the entire piece at her recital with no music.   I just stood there thinking.... "so...?"   I haven't even attempted the 3rd movement of Moonlight though.   
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Post by: pianisten1989 on April 08, 2010, 06:07:02 PM
181 (maybe?) Start clapping after the first movement in moonlight, only because you didn't know there were any more movements.

182 Think the first movement in moonlight and second movement of pathetique accually are 2 movements from the same piece, but still are called Moonlight and Pathetique (true story)

183 "What do you mean too loud and without tempo?! Atleast he plays it with FEELING!!"
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Post by: ponken on April 08, 2010, 10:04:51 PM
133: Short hair.

And here I was just going to get a haircut. Lol
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Post by: pianisten1989 on April 09, 2010, 07:04:08 PM
184. Play a piece, and when it gets difficult, you stop and start playing an other one..
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Post by: nmitchell076 on April 10, 2010, 12:21:02 AM
185: Answers "True" to the following True or False question: "Beethoven wrote two symphonies: the 5th and the 9th" (my music history professor is quite the humorist)
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Post by: pianisten1989 on April 10, 2010, 12:00:04 PM
185: Answers "True" to the following True or False question: "Beethoven wrote two symphonies: the 5th and the 9th" (my music history professor is quite the humorist)
And then ask if you could play it on the piano (and not talk about the Liszt-transcription)
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Post by: musicsminion on April 23, 2010, 12:04:58 AM
I would say something, but I'm sure I have the right to. Haha ;D

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Post by: wildman on April 23, 2010, 11:56:19 AM
186. Plays the 2nd part of Fur Elise retardedly fast so he can brag that he's better than you...(this happened to me once   ???)
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Post by: redragon on May 04, 2010, 03:35:02 AM
187. Sincerely believes that Fur Elise is the most amazing piece in the universe and also pronounces it wrong.
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Post by: end on May 04, 2010, 09:15:01 PM
188 - he/she plays several pieces, difficult ones, but none of them well.
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Post by: stevebob on May 04, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
189.  Believes that the "Minute Waltz" can be (and in fact is meant to be) played in one minute.
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Post by: dss62467 on May 05, 2010, 11:01:50 AM
186. Plays the 2nd part of Fur Elise retardedly fast so he can brag that he's better than you...(this happened to me once   ???)


Isn't "retardedly fast" an oxymoron?   :P
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Post by: pianisten1989 on May 05, 2010, 11:04:56 AM
189.  Believes that the "Minute Waltz" can be (and in fact is meant to be) played in one minute.
I've heard it be played in one minute.. It was rather shitty, but it was one minute..

200. Thinks musicality= playing with tremendously rubato in every bar.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dss62467 on May 05, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
I've heard it be played in one minute.. It was rather shitty, but it was one minute..


Well, I tried to find a YouTube of someone doing it in a minute... pretty standardly, it's about 2 minutes.   I can't stand pianists that play everything fast!   What a way to ruin a piece.



Much nicer



Just for your viewing pleasure.
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Post by: stevebob on May 05, 2010, 11:27:56 AM
I've heard it be played in one minute.. It was rather shitty, but it was one minute..

Right, because that's why it's called the "Minute Waltz"!  At least it was just "rather sh*tty" and didn't totally suck.
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Post by: pianisten1989 on May 05, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
Yeah, I didn't say I liked it when it's played in 1 min, but it's possible to.
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Post by: dss62467 on May 05, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Yeah, I didn't say I liked it when it's played in 1 min, but it's possible to.

Maybe the "rather shitty" and not totally sucking version played in a minute was just a finger exercise, so the pianist could play it at its intended tempo rather beautifully and not remotely sucking. 

Anyway, the whole conversation makes me hate heteronyms.   IS it the Minute (as in time) or the Minute (as in small) Waltz?   
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Post by: pianisten1989 on May 05, 2010, 12:32:37 PM
Obviously, it's not a minute in time....
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Post by: stevebob on May 05, 2010, 12:58:14 PM
I don't mind heteronyms, but my dislike for programmatic titles or nicknames given to any of Chopin's works has meant I've never actually known the provenance of that particular one.

I think I heard that it was coined by one of Chopin's publishers; if that's true, it would be interesting to know which one.  As far as I know, minute isn't a heteronym (i.e., an adjective meaning "diminutive") in French or German.

To tell the truth, it wouldn't surprise me if a publisher did imagine the waltz could or should be played in a minute (which, even without repeats, would be about two measures per second, or nearly 400 quarter notes per minute).

Back on topic:

191.  Misspells "Juilliard."
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dss62467 on May 05, 2010, 03:25:16 PM
Obviously, it's not a minute in time....

That's my feeling as well.... so people have got to stop trying to achieve warp speed and just play the piece so it sounds nice.
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Post by: Bob on May 06, 2010, 03:25:00 AM
This one's sometimes true.  A way to tell a person who's not a musician, although it depends on what you're playing.

Tells you you sound good. :)  I've run into a few people who seemed to know all about music.  Then I'm playing something crappy and they say, "Wow!  You sound really good!"  I've lost a lot of respect for a few people instantly that way.  Works the same when you hear them compliant someone else who's sounding like crap.  And when you know they sincerely mean it, that they're not just giving a compliment.  It's what they really think.  Ugh.
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Post by: dss62467 on May 06, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
OK, Bob.... then let me rephrase that.....   so people have got to stop trying to achieve warp speed and just play the piece so it sounds nice to Bob.   ;D

I know what you mean, though.  I videotaped myself playing some pieces I was working on to send to my father since he never gets to hear how I'm progressing.  I posted them on my Facebook page and there are mistakes everywhere and the piano is out of tune.  I really only posted them because my dogs, cat and child are just so funny to watch in the periphery.   I got all these comments about how talented I am.  LOL.   I'm not a bit gifted.  I could probably perform for the people at a retirement home whose hearing aides need adjusting, but....
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Post by: Bob on May 06, 2010, 09:15:13 PM
Another piece to add onto what I typed before -- Describes someone as a genius.  I heard someone say "So+So is a genius!"  I had never of the composer, but the person sounded like they knew what they were talking about.  Then they compliment something I was hacking up and also complimented someone who was even worse on a piece.  Then I looked up the composer they mentioned.  By that time I'd already lost respect for their opinion.  The "genius" composer information I found wasn't helping. 
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Post by: biscuitroxy12 on May 07, 2010, 04:22:27 AM
what number did we leave off on?
oh well i have more.

Thinks that Mozart is from Australia (Austria. True story)

Surprised at a pianist who can actually play the 3rd movement of the Moonlight Sonata in a decent tempo (happened to me. I was the player, not the surprised person. lol)

Thinks that Baroque was the first period of music (It wasn't.)

DREADS their next lesson for weeks ahead.

i agree with your view of the minute waltz. It passes by so fast (1 minute, i mean come on!) that you cant remember how the song went. Daniel Barenboim Plays it in like 2 minutes and that is my main recording.
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Post by: pianisten1989 on May 07, 2010, 08:30:49 AM
190-ish. Find a piano forum. Create an accound with the name "slow_concert_pianist". Once you've done that, make a signature as following:
"Currently rehearsing:

Chopin Ballades (all)
Rachmaninov prelude in Bb Op 23 No 2
Mozart A minor sonata K310
Prokofiev 2nd sonata
Bach WTCII no 6
Busoni tr Bach toccata in D minor"

It's important to use the word Rehearsing, and not learning.Since you already know everything there is.
Then, as soon as possible, start spamming the forum with your recordings. It wont take long until some unmusical moron starts questioning your genius. Answer him with "Who the hell are you?!", "Post something better yourself then! HA! BACH? LOL!" or the very popular " SHUT UP!! JUST SHUT UP! MY MUM AND MY PROFESSOR SAYS I'M VERY TALENTED!!!! SHUT UUUUUP!"

Once you've done that, you're clearly not a very serious pianist.
Title: The Great Summary, part 1
Post by: gnomeza on May 07, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
1Believes Fur Elise is the Everest of piano repertoire, only second to the moonlight sonata.
2When playing the third movement of the moonlight, will play the left hand in C major and and right hand in C# minor without realizing something is wrong.
3Calls piano music "songs".
4if they is not a membah of DA SDC
5Thinks Rachmaninoff's 3rd Concerto is called the "Mach 3"
6Thinks Chopin was gay because he dedicated music to George Sand.
7Thinks Richard Clayderman is a classical pianist !
8Is surprised to learn that Rachmaninoff did not get the idea for the 2nd Piano Concerto from the song, "Full Moon and Empty Arms."
9When asked: Do you know any Bach? Proceeds to play the first measures of the tocatta in d minor and the Minuet in G from Anne Magdalenes notebook....
10Sits the wrong way on the piano bench...
11Has a bad sense of fashion.
12when can play the piano with perfect and amazing technique but doesn't know anything about theory and music
13Thinks playing on the black keys is really, really hard.
14they start a thread about how to recognise people who aren't serious pianists.
15Pronounces Bach "Batch"
16Plays with index fingers only, or the incredibly solid knuckles hand formation!!!
17he thinks that the best way to play legato is lowering the right pedal
18she thinks that the best way to play legato never involves the right pedal
19playing pop songs with chords in the left hand and some 5 note melody in the right hand!
20thinks anyone with a good technique must/will be a great pianist.
21Posts on a piano forum instead of playing
22Thinks a synth is suitable replacement for a piano, even better since it can make 1001 sounds
23After hearing a particularily great concert goes up to Daniel Barenboim and asks him what he does for a "real job". (since it really is impossible to make a living as a musician)
24After hearing a great concert goes up to Evgeny Kissin and asks him where he can download that song (Beethoven 5th concerto) for his mobile phone.
25Blushes when someone talks about "fingering" a piece.
26Long, sometimes exquisitely manicured nails.
27the guys who don't get all these indications that show that a person is not a pianist
28Identified with Elton John when he got to play the piano for Diana's funeral. Thought it was really cool and that the rest of the music sucked.
29Thinks they can easily recognize who is not a "serious" pianist and makes a list about it
30Wonders what this "list" is that everyone is talking about and what it has to do with hungarian rhapsody.
31When I was an absolute beginner I had a teacher who wanted I practiced in a rambling, almost dumb and filthy piano, saying it was advisable for learning.
32Anybody practicing 2 or 3 days in a week or only during weekends
33Whoever is trying to learn without taking lessons (sorry, I think so)
34Anybody whose playing is really bad, but who makes lot of mannered gestures (lisztian emulation looks good only for acomplished pianists)
35Anybody learning simplified versions of classical piano repertoire
36Everyone who says he/she will be playing Fur Elise and then only plays the main theme.
37Everyone who sits down at an acoustic piano and asks where the on/off button is (true story!)
38Liberace...
39Doesn't really see the difference between what he hears in his CD of Horowitz plays the Tchaikovsky concertos and the version he plays from "Classic themes for children".
40Thinks "Alberado del Grascioso" is a Mexican middle-weight.
41Thinks there are easy and difficult to play piano works.
42Categorizes piano works by difficulty levels.
43Thinks the composer was really worried about the level of "difficulty" of his work.
44Looks at her piano teacher's bookshelf/library and thinks that she owns every piece of piano music ever composed.
45Asks her piano teacher if she's played every piece of piano music ever composed.
46Doesn't see any point in working on a piece if it's not just for "fun"
47Sits on the piano and inmediately looks for the "on" button.
48Is dissapointed to hear that the piano cant make "funkysynth" or "flutteryghosts", but only comes with one single boring sound effect.
49he/she who wonders why anyone would want that outer left pedal on a grand that makes you play your piece half a tone too high
50prefers Fazioli pianos because of theirs paint jobs !
51Wear grey robes.
52Worship the full moon.
53Live in the forest.
54Prefer Steinway pianos because everybody else is using them.
55Prefer Evanescence because everybody else is listening to them.
56After discussing your latest composition and their supposed total interest in it, you sit down to play it and they turn to someone else and begin talking.
57They cannot bring themselves to complement someone else's playing.
58When asked to perform with other musicians, they do not bother to show up on time or be prepared to dig in.
59Stick with a lousy piano in their home.
60They can only play one composer well and continue to do so again and again in local public performances.
61Upon entering a room whilst you are playing, they immediately shout "TURN IT OFF."
62Ask you to play something and then start plonking the keys at either the highest or lowest point of the keyboard.
63Ask you to play something and interupt you asking you to play something else and not any of that classical ****.
64Asks you to play "eye of the tiger," whatever that is, I think it's the thing with the repeated octaves.
65Arrives unprepared for a performance of some of the easiest music ever arranged, played on an electric keyboard with a "one fingered" melody in RH and one note chord settings in the LH and a backing rhythm and still manages to mess it up.
66Tries to play the theme from "Titanic" on any random starting note with all white keys and still thinks it is right.
67Gets frustrated and envious of those who are better pianists but practises something like five minutes a week.
68Teaches pupils who come for piano lessons on an electric keyboard with the easiest music every written with a one fingered melody in RH and one note chord settings in the LH and a backing rhythm and makes them sight read through it at tediously slow speeds while they still make loads of mistakes and harshly criticises unconstructively and doesn't really care whether or not they improve.
69Thinks they know everything about music and tries to sound clever by correcting you with falsehoods that even they know is garbage but just aim to prove you wrong.
70Upon hearing a piece that a student has been working on for many weeks, says every lesson, "It needs a bit of work, that one."
71Locks you in the practice room.
72Puts pupils through as many exams as possible regardless of their ability or readiness because they are paid more money.
73Pulls the power supply out of the electric piano while you are practicing.
74Organizes concerts that are simply I bunch of talentless morons getting up and singing with no musical detail whatsoever and recieving a huge applause.
75Thinks that a hemiola is a disease.
76Thinks that a leitmotif is a light bulb.
77Spends years getting ready for a grade 5 exam and performs the music just as badly as at the beginning.
78Tries to play difficult music paying no attention to technique or musicality but just trying to make as much noise as possible.
79Thinks Bach is easy because there is no pedal used.
80Thinks that all classical music is Mozart.
81Thinks "Mozart" is spoken with English phonetics.
82Knows 3 composers: "Beethoven", "Mo-zart" and "Tchaikovsky."
83Steals music from you.
84Doesn't have a piano.
85Their 2 3 trills are as bad as my LH 5 4 trills.
86Hits the piano when you are trying to practice, this happened many times when I used to practice at school.
87Plays Fur Elise in such a way that the note at the end of every phrase is nipped and the left hand's chords are always a beat or two behind the right hand, then tells you (when you're looking at them in a non-admiring way that they perceive as admiration) that they've "been working on it for a long time."
88Asks if you can play any "real music."
89Asks if you can play Heart and Soul with them, then tells you that you're messing it up when the song (it did originally have words, didn't it?) falls apart due to their lagging (or nonexistent) rhythm.
90Had absolutely no idea that a grand has an outer left pedal.
91thinks the greatest pieces of music ever written are Linus and Lucy and The Entertainer.
92Someone who things you cant be a serious pianist if you dont know a lot about about music theory.
93Someone who thinks Chopin's Etude no 2 op.10 can be played with his toes.
94Someone who thinks 'Sonata Facile' is facile.
95Someone who thinks that 'music theory' is all 'theory' and superfluous to 'real music'.
96Someone who knows nothing about music theory yet plays Beethoven and Schumann.
97Someone who doesn't know whether a piano is in tune or not.
98Someone who thinks 'cadence' and 'cadenza' are the same thing.
99Asks you what the fastest thing you can play is.
100Asks you how fast you can play a scale etc
101Thinks Beethoven is a dog
102Thinks Beethoven is a rap artist.
103Says Bach as "Back"
104Says Bach as "Bark"
105Says Chopin as "Choppin'"
106Refuses to play music of certain composers because of how they lived.
107Believes that a serious pianist should recognize that salsa, jazz, heavy metal, punk rock and rap are not valid means of musical expression
108Say Chopin as "Pincho"
109Thinks that Fur Elise starts with a really slow trill....
110Thinks 'Fur Elise' starts with a really fast and virtuosic trill.
111Thinks that pieces like Ravel's Bolero are structually advanced.
112Considers themselves advanced for playing Claie de Lune or Moonlight 1st movement
113Thinks Cantabile is pronounced "Can't - a - bile"
114Plays too many notes at the start of Fur Elise and breaks off abruptly into the rest of the piece, thinking it is clever to do so
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115Believing that one can master the piano even if they let their nails grow to play the guitar as well
116Plays a "show-off" piece faster than he can handle just to show off to his friends.
117Thinks that you are just showing off when you play technically difficult music.
118Asks you how long it takes to be able to play every piece ever written.
119Starts to mock you by pretending to play the piano in thin air.
120Starts to play the piano just because you have to perform as coursework.
121writes in an exam: "Beethoven expired in 1827, he later died because of this.
122enters a competition entitled "world competition for amateur pianists" thinking that if he/she wins he/she will have an international career.
123wins the competition for amateur pianists and immediately applies to get their hands bronzed for later adulation.
124She or He thinks that a clasically trainend pianist cant play jazz or blues
125She or He think that Arrau will be the best ever
126She or He spends 5 hours posting messages but spends 5 minutes practicing.
127only knows pieces that one plays for piano exams
128thinks music is nothing but beautiful noises.
129when someone says "I' don't like Bach's music because it's boring."
130Spelling Rachmaninoff as ROCKmaninoff
131Complaining that moving a piano is more difficult than playing one.
132making fun of liszt pieces by sayng "reces pieces"
133ignoring the best sheet music website ( https://www.abrahamespinosa.com (https://www.abrahamespinosa.com) ) becouse its in another language
134being mexican
135Familiar with stereotypes of every piano composer but none of the literature.
136When discussing repertoire, tells you s/he can play Chopin's Op. 10 No 3, and comments on how "beautiful" it is. Doesn't react when you mention Op. 10 No 4 and the 4th ballade in your repertoire, but when the name Rachmaninoff comes up (two slow preludes - Op 32 5 and 10) exclaims in admiration, "Ooh... the Rachmaninoff pieces are very difficult, aren't they?"
137People who think that Beethoven's fifth symphony is a piano piece.
138People who say ta ta ta taaaaaa (fifth symphony) when you tell that you play piano.
139People who say "WOW" when you play Fur Elise's main theme.
140When your teacher thinks you are a child prodigy because you play so much better than her other students and can't notice that it's the stupid way she is teaching them that's crippling them.
141people who only think classical music is good in techno remixes
142if you go to their house and its nothing but beginer books and cd's no intermidiet or advanced
143when they think Nobuo Uetsumo (or w/e) is the ultimate composer for piano.
144proud to be able to play "furry leaves"
145when you get over to their place and all they have is a 40 key keyboard.
146when they ask you why there are pound signs all over their music.
147when they say Mozart has fury..and lacks the moisture...and when one is tight wit dey bad self..
148should I sculpt the penis?
149do I play with my penis?
150do I conduct with my penis?
151He or she demonstrates or expresses an outward, general disdain for the instrument currently in discussion whilst, en même temps, appropriately illuminating the complete and total absense of said instrument within his or her residence.
152He or she, whilst in the mist of conversing about said instrument, gives a quote similar yet not limited to, Yes, I study the 88, but, sadly, I must concede, my engrossment is substantially lax or limited to enjoyment for sheer aesthetic value.
153Short hair.
154The attire of the pianist. Any serious pianist always dressed in only the most expensive of tuxedo, making sure it solid black as white and other colors arreserved for quayars and the hopelessly confused. He has his shoes polished by personal servant only. Never tip, the servant knows his place. He must always approach the piano from the stage front, place his left hand upon the piano, and take a bow, never bending to little or too much. He avoids rude jesters, such as flailing of one's arms and wobbling of ones head whilst grimacing, in order to appear better in control of his intrument. At the conclusion of his performance he always plays an encore after taking three bows. The encore should be no shorter than three minute, but no longer than ten -regardless of whatever fatigue he feels from his previous performance. He must make it lively so as to wake those who feel asleep during the sonata part of the program. After the encore he must meet with audience and reporters alike where he must, with great emphasis, deny he has any talent whatsoever, so as to not harm the fragile egos of his adoring fans. He must hunch slightly and never raise his head to high in an attempt to be more approachable.
155Thinks a Yamaha is a Japanese car.
156Get's drunk and posts on a piano forum, rambling on about nothing. And also smells like me.
157Doesn't have a regular pair of black dress shoes for performance (I did, i just couldn't find them in time!) so substitutes black, cleated athletic shoes instead. And gets away with it!
158When sightreading a piece, doesn't check the key signature until half way through the first page.
159Looks neat when starting to play and still looks neat after finishing.
160Uses a little wooden mock keyboard so he can practise while watching television.
161Plays a song an octave too high for the entire song for the entire competition....
162thinks wurlitzer is the best brand....
163Puts the pedal down and holds it down for the whole piece, while playing "Blue Spanish Eyes" in 6ths.
164Hanon is a genious!, he really knows the keyboard!
165after playing Hanon)...Czerny is a poetry!
166Spell Liszt : Luiszt ...
167thinks Siberian Husky is not attractive
168When one plays the "Black Key" etude in C major
169have problems spelling the word "dodecaphony" (real story: duostecatony was only one of the attempted versions)
170Playing/Practicing without proper posture
171Thinks that 3/4 is 6/8
172thinks that an appoggiatura and an acciacatura are the same thing.
173thinks that 6/8 have six times (and never played a music in 12/anything)
174Can only play at one dynamic level
175Always speeds up when it's loud and slows down when it's soft
176only ever plays the most recognised themes from all the overplayed songs.
177Plays "Heart and Soul." (Even one offense on this will brand you as a non serious musician forever)
178People who think, playing fast is the main problem for a pianist.
179Someone who reasons in terms of good and bad based on biased opinions passed on by somebody else.
180Thinks Liszt is empty show.
181Not a Piano Major
182Actually enjoys accompanying singers.
183They dont "say" anything when they play
184Believes that the ending of Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody #2 requires the most complex thought process known to man and calls it a "level 10 technique" that the likes of Rachmaninov, Hamelin and Horowitz had to fake because they do/did not have the ability to process the required 20 variables in order to play "40 confusing hand changes in 3 seconds".
185Comes out to play the Tchaikovsky Bb concerto with an orchestra, splatters the first three chords and then throws up all over the keys.
186Signs up to a piano forum website and occasionally leaves samples of their playing in the form of MIDI files or excerpts of professional performances and expects this to be enough to get da respekt, innit?
187If they're not playing "big" pieces anymore.
188Pronounces Liszt as "Litz" (true story)
189Announces that they "don't have any finger coordination." (true story)
190cleans the piano keys with baby wipes (true story--left them very gunky...okay these are all true stories)
191only plays the piano when drunk
192constantly announces that Mozart was a genius but has no idea why
193was not aware that grand pianos come in different sizes
194thinks all pianos sound the same
195cannot tell when a piano is out of tune
196walks into your house and drops their coat and backpack onto your grand piano (I almost died)
197Attempts to pass their piano exam by playing their scales one octave, one hand
198was not aware you have to practice every day to get good
199Visits your house, observes your Bosie 225 and later tells friends that you have a beautiful baby grand in your living room.
200Asks if you can play any of Chopin's symphonies on the piano.
201Thinks that the Starwars and the Indiana Jones theme song was composed by Raffmaninoff.
202people who play modern music only and nothing more.
203People who play music from the past and nothing more
204spells fur elise Fleur De Lis
205Thinks that if they complete their piano method, they can play anything!
206a piano student who doesn't play everything, from renaissance to new composed music (notice that most of the time it's due to a non-serious-musician teacher)
207a pianist - after those formative years - who doesn't have the creativity to develop a unique repertory, and stuck to mainstream music only (and there is no excuse: even if someone must play that because of her/his professional career, there is always space for something different).
208Refers to arpeggios as "those crazy things he does with his hands".
209Doesn't realize Moonlight is in C# minor, and that there's more than the first mvt
210Posts, in a public piano forum, terrible recordings of pieces being sight-read, instead of practising them until they are good.
211Thinks that you are playing a piece wrong just because you interpret it differently to the pianist they are used to hearing.
212maybe?) Start clapping after the first movement in moonlight, only because you didn't know there were any more movements.
213Think the first movement in moonlight and second movement of pathetique accually are 2 movements from the same piece, but still are called Moonlight and Pathetique (true story)
214What do you mean too loud and without tempo?! Atleast he plays it with FEELING!!"
215Play a piece, and when it gets difficult, you stop and start playing an other one..
216Answers "True" to the following True or False question: "Beethoven wrote two symphonies: the 5th and the 9th"
217Plays the 2nd part of Fur Elise retardedly fast so he can brag that he's better than you...
218Sincerely believes that Fur Elise is the most amazing piece in the universe and also pronounces it wrong.
219he/she plays several pieces, difficult ones, but none of them well.
220Believes that the "Minute Waltz" can be (and in fact is meant to be) played in one minute.
221Thinks musicality= playing with tremendously rubato in every bar.
222Misspells "Juilliard."
223Tells you you sound good
224Describes someone as a genius
225Thinks that Mozart is from Australia (Austria. True story)
226Surprised at a pianist who can actually play the 3rd movement of the Moonlight Sonata in a decent tempo
227Thinks that Baroque was the first period of music (It wasn't.)
228DREADS their next lesson for weeks ahead.
229Find a piano forum. Create an accound with the name "slow_concert_pianist". Once you've done that, make a signature as following:
"Currently rehearsing:
Chopin Ballades (all)
Rachmaninov prelude in Bb Op 23 No 2
Mozart A minor sonata K310
Prokofiev 2nd sonata
Bach WTCII no 6
Busoni tr Bach toccata in D minor"
It's important to use the word Rehearsing, and not learning.Since you already know everything there is.
Then, as soon as possible, start spamming the forum with your recordings. It wont take long until some unmusical moron starts questioning your genius. Answer him with "Who the hell are you?!", "Post something better yourself then! HA! BACH? LOL!" or the very popular " SHUT UP!! JUST SHUT UP! MY MUM AND MY PROFESSOR SAYS I'M VERY TALENTED!!!! SHUT UUUUUP!"
Once you've done that, you're clearly not a very serious pianist.
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Post by: stevebob on May 07, 2010, 04:55:19 PM
230.  Thinks Van Cliburn is a surname (you know, like van Gogh or van Beethoven).
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: dss62467 on May 07, 2010, 05:31:06 PM
I got mocked harshly when I started working in a music store when I was maybe 21 because I thought Van Morrison was a surname.  Hey - Van Halen was my favorite band, it's a logical mistake.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: liordavid on May 23, 2010, 06:10:01 PM
190-ish. Find a piano forum. Create an accound with the name "slow_concert_pianist". Once you've done that, make a signature as following:
"Currently rehearsing:

Chopin Ballades (all)
Rachmaninov prelude in Bb Op 23 No 2
Mozart A minor sonata K310
Prokofiev 2nd sonata
Bach WTCII no 6
Busoni tr Bach toccata in D minor"

It's important to use the word Rehearsing, and not learning.Since you already know everything there is.
Then, as soon as possible, start spamming the forum with your recordings. It wont take long until some unmusical moron starts questioning your genius. Answer him with "Who the hell are you?!", "Post something better yourself then! HA! BACH? LOL!" or the very popular " SHUT UP!! JUST SHUT UP! MY MUM AND MY PROFESSOR SAYS I'M VERY TALENTED!!!! SHUT UUUUUP!"

Once you've done that, you're clearly not a very serious pianist.
Why so mean? slow-concert-pianist can definitely pay up to tempo if practices hard enough.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: stevebob on May 23, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
Why so mean? slow-concert-pianist can definitely pay up to tempo if practices hard enough.

Whether you think pianisten's post was mean or not, it's manifestly true.  Your own claim, on the other hand, is just conjecture.  (And even were it true, "up to tempo" implies nothing about accuracy, rhythm or musicality.)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: liordavid on May 23, 2010, 07:22:41 PM
what pianisten said doesnt show that slow-concert-pianist is not a devoted pianist and it doesn't show that he doesn't work hard.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: stevebob on May 23, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
what pianisten said doesnt show that slow-concert-pianist is not a devoted pianist and it doesn't show that he doesn't work hard.

Perhaps Florence Foster Jenkins was hard-working and devoted to singing, but I doubt anyone would describe her as a serious singer.

I think that s_c_p's posts and recordings speak for themselves.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: gradedpiano on January 27, 2011, 09:01:45 PM
Anyone who is confused why on sheet music do some notes face down and others up. :-[ ( forgot the name for the line coming off the note......how shameful) Guess that means im a piano noob(In theory anyway)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: musicluvr49 on January 27, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
Has to look at the keys when playing scales

Hehehe....  :-[

231: Thinks they are a better piano player than you because their Bach 2-part invention is faster than a slow Rachmaninoff piece.

232: Just started piano a few months ago, and thinks they are ready for Clair de Lune
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jmd1921 on January 28, 2011, 02:24:11 AM
233. Thinks that the una corda (Or far left) pedal doesn't do anything either on an upright or a grand (that was me the first couple of months ::))

234. Will bang a LOT of bass notes without even releasing the pedal

235. will play First Arabesque in E in C major  >:(

Oh my god, why do they even bother to try those rather difficult pieces if they have troubles sightreading bach's minuet in G?!?!
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Post by: thinkgreenlovepiano on January 28, 2011, 04:06:11 AM


10Sits the wrong way on the piano bench...
21Posts on a piano forum instead of playing
32Anybody practicing 2 or 3 days in a week or only during weekends


Guilty  :-[
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jdpianoman101 on January 28, 2011, 01:27:23 PM
Hey, how do you change your signature??? javascript:void(0);
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jimbo320 on January 28, 2011, 03:23:57 PM
Change signature by clicking on the profile tab, then under modify profile click on 'forum profile information', then scroll to the bottom of that page....
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: ekerette on January 31, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
230. Returns home with a girl and plays one or two pieces. The non-musical lady gets so thrilled n says 'oh...u play d piano so wel'. And ofcos, you can guese what ensued next right in front of the keyboard. So many keys jangled in the act.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pianisten1989 on January 31, 2011, 05:21:58 PM
@230 Well, then the girl is the "not so serious pianist". The actual pianists may be very talented.

231 To wake up one day and think "Hey, Maybe I should do a tutorial on the revolutionary etude!" Then sit down at the piano, plays the whole piece reaaaally slowly, and record it with a camera from above.
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Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: becky8898 on January 31, 2011, 07:24:29 PM
Sits at a piano a 1/4 step out of tune playing as if  everything was fine.


Cheers, Becky
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jimbo320 on January 31, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
All the strings are in tune to themselves but out of pitch and not knowing it.....
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: pianisten1989 on January 31, 2011, 09:33:21 PM
All the strings are in tune to themselves but out of pitch and not knowing it.....

Why should the stings know that?! :D:D:D
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: musicluvr49 on January 31, 2011, 09:37:14 PM
Sits at a piano a 1/4 step out of tune playing as if  everything was fine.


Cheers, Becky

Well I don't think there is anything wrong with that, unless the pianist has perfect pitch, and can tell the tones are a little off.
   ;)
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jimbo320 on January 31, 2011, 11:01:46 PM
Am I the only one who checks the pitch and tune?
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: becky8898 on February 01, 2011, 12:26:41 AM
Hi musicluvr49  - Im only guessing but im willing to bet you dont work much with singers or other musicans.  Most String players think piano players are tone death idiots.  And my goodness you had better know if your piano is off if you dont want to get totally dumped on by members of an orchestra, the conductor,  a string quartet, any singers your working with, etc.  Also 1/4 tone is like gigantic.  E to E flat is half a tone so a quarter tone is right between there. And yes I can totally tell the difference if a piano is that far out of whack . There is usually a reason that a composer chooses the key  he does for his piece. Move the piano 1/4 tone away and at least to me it sounds totally weird.

So anyway  thats why a piano should be in tune.

Cheers, Becky
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: jimbo320 on February 01, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
One reason I prefer a digital. Always in perfect tune.....
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: musicluvr49 on February 01, 2011, 03:30:32 AM
Hi musicluvr49  - Im only guessing but im willing to bet you dont work much with singers or other musicans.  Most String players think piano players are tone death idiots.  And my goodness you had better know if your piano is off if you dont want to get totally dumped on by members of an orchestra, the conductor,  a string quartet, any singers your working with, etc.  Also 1/4 tone is like gigantic.  E to E flat is half a tone so a quarter tone is right between there. And yes I can totally tell the difference if a piano is that far out of whack . There is usually a reason that a composer chooses the key  he does for his piece. Move the piano 1/4 tone away and at least to me it sounds totally weird.

So anyway  thats why a piano should be in tune.

Cheers, Becky

You're right, I havent had the chance to work with anyone else, maybe I'll get a chance when I go to college.  But dont get me wrong, Im not saying that its not important to have your piano in tune, trust me I know.
I'm just saying that someone Can be a serious about piano, and still not know that their piano is a 1/4 tone off. They just may not have perfect pitch yet.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: kelly_kelly on February 01, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
You're right, I havent had the chance to work with anyone else, maybe I'll get a chance when I go to college.  But dont get me wrong, Im not saying that its not important to have your piano in tune, trust me I know.
I'm just saying that someone Can be a serious about piano, and still not know that their piano is a 1/4 tone off. They just may not have perfect pitch yet.

I agree with you in theory. I consider myself a serious amateur musician, and I doubt I could tell if a piano was transposed perfectly by a quarter tone. But unless a piano tuner were playing a malicious joke, it would be really odd if the whole piano was a quarter tone off in a self-consistent way. By the time a piano is that out of tune, the notes will usually no longer be in tune with each other, and a serious pianist who has acquired decent relative pitch would probably be able to tell, as they would be if they were playing with other musicians. Call me a "tone deaf idiot", but in my experience there are plenty of good musicians without perfect pitch, and likewise plenty of mediocre to bad musicians with perfect pitch. And yes, I also play a string instrument at a reasonable level of proficiency.
Title: Re: 1000000 ways to recognize a person who is not a serious pianist.
Post by: countrymath on February 03, 2011, 10:59:59 AM
230.  Thinks Van Cliburn is a surname (you know, like van Gogh or van Beethoven).

232 - Thinks that Van Halen was a german composer.