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Title: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: Bob on June 16, 2010, 03:09:13 AM
A real monarchy where one person is in charge (if that's the actual definition).  As opposed to just a figure head for appearances.  

Are there any countries that have that happening now?  (I don't really consider England.  I'm thinking of a monarchy where one person has power over everything.)

Is that even possible in the present world, being much more complex than the past when one person being in charge of everything might have worked?


Hmm...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_monarchs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy

That's what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: thalbergmad on June 16, 2010, 08:05:38 AM
I think there are sufficient examples to indicate that they do not work.

Mugabe, Sadam Hussain, Gadaffi and God knows how many other smaller Countries.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely as the old saying goes & I guess it always will.

Perhaps there is some remote tribe in the Amazonian basin where it works, where people have not been infested with "civilisation".

Thal
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: liordavid on June 16, 2010, 01:04:52 PM
many polynesian countries have always and still have monarchies
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: birba on June 16, 2010, 01:48:42 PM
My first teacher who was a student of Emil Sauer, among others, and emigrated to the states after the war, used to always say "Give me a king with a constitution any day!"
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: oxy60 on June 16, 2010, 09:33:55 PM
What do you consider a level of control? Holding 2/3 (lords and judges) and the power to dissolve the other third (parliament)? And all this without a constitution?

How about the chief of all police and the appointment of mayors and judges? No juries, no binding referendum, but still a constitution.

That's just two EU countries, shall we continue?
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: Bob on June 16, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
Sure.

I was thinking of a king or queen who could do whatever they want.  Say it and people will try to do it.  Or more like someone who would also be making decisions about everything, handling all the issues.  I doubt one person even with advisors knows enough for that.
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: point of grace on June 17, 2010, 12:56:17 AM
of course it is! read the papers! they are the same but with a different name
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: gyzzzmo on June 17, 2010, 11:40:21 AM
Ofcourse an absolute monarchie is possible these days, but its not likely to last very long since sooner or later you'll get a bad ruler on wich depends too much.
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: oxy60 on June 17, 2010, 09:24:39 PM
Sure.

I was thinking of a king or queen who could do whatever they want.  Say it and people will try to do it.  Or more like someone who would also be making decisions about everything, handling all the issues.  I doubt one person even with advisors knows enough for that.

These days they do, just behind the scenes. The press must also keep quiet. What do think the prime minister and monarch discuss during their regular meetings, the weather?
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: mephisto on June 18, 2010, 05:54:25 PM
Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar and to a lesser degree Kuwait, UAE and Bahrain.
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: wishful thinker on July 02, 2010, 10:40:42 AM
Don't forget the Vatican  ;D
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: birba on July 02, 2010, 02:07:49 PM
 >:(  Don't laugh.  That's no joke.  If you lived in Italy you'd know.
Title: Re: Is a monarchy possible in the present day?
Post by: oxy60 on July 02, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
They even have their own (unofficial) political party to be part of the state government of Italy (CD). And most other Christian parties in Europe get their marching orders from the Vatican. The (Roman) Catholic monarchs get their instructions directly from the Throne of Peter.