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Topic: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1 (Read 4146 times)

failed

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Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

on: May 03, 2006, 07:18:26 PM

I recorded the first piece of Schumanns Kreisleriana op.16 today.
Maybe you can say something about it.

here's the link:

...yes, i know. - there are some wrong notes

second piece comes soon..

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Mozartian

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #1 on: May 03, 2006, 08:30:14 PM

Wooo! Nice work! Yes, there are some wrong notes, and it's a little mushy in spots, but overall I love where you're going with this piece.

Great tempo, and you totally have the spirit of the work down, haha. Love it.

Looking forward to hearing more!

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[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

failed

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #2 on: May 03, 2006, 08:50:56 PM

Thanks! Makes me happy to hear such compliments

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hodi

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #3 on: May 03, 2006, 08:57:07 PM

i'm a freak of schumann and i really liked it
excellent job.

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lava

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #4 on: May 06, 2006, 05:48:15 AM

Great job! I liked it. I know many recordings of the Kreisleriana and I think you have put your own unique interpretation to it.

As a constructive critique, maybe you still could improve a few little things:

- play a bit faster.

- the pedalling is not clean at the end of some passages. I think i heared different chords sound together or maybe it's the sound quality of the video.

- try to get the syncopated bass more pronounced.

Piano Society has good information about the Kreisleriana:
https://www.pianosociety.com/index.php?id=57

Can you play the other parts nrs 2 - 8? If so, please post them!

Lava.

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failed

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #5 on: May 08, 2006, 02:41:24 PM

Thank you for the information/critic.

I will record it again when i have some time left..and maybe i'll buy a new mic. I don't like the sound of this recording. In natural it sounds more interesting and clearer.

I can play some other parts: 2, 4,7 .. but i've not finished the whole..

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stevie

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #6 on: May 10, 2006, 07:54:00 AM

very good, solid technically, just needs work to give it more colour , spice, and life....looking forward to hearing more

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nicco

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #7 on: May 10, 2006, 08:04:40 AM

a bit blurry, i advise less pedal to bring out the singing quality of this piece. Im not sure about playing it faster, as i think your current speed gives a very good impression. Try to make the piano sing, not talk like an angry chinese salesman (ok bad comparison, but you know)

else, very good technically, great job

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failed

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 12:04:49 PM

thanks,
i think i would critisize the same things as you when i hear (and see) the video

the piano part sounds very boring on it..

but when i play it i really don't know what i should improve. only the wrong notes..

in my eyes it has much colour and a singing character.. you have to imagine i play it on a wonderful steinway.

i did and it was fantastic..

now don't think i am arrogant

nevertheless i will record it again with a better mic ( i hope)!

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iumonito

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Re: Video: Schumann Kreisleriana 1

Reply #9 on: August 23, 2006, 05:07:01 AM

Quote from: failed on May 11, 2006, 12:04:49 PM

thanks,
i think i would critisize the same things as you when i hear (and see) the video
the piano part sounds very boring on it..

but when i play it i really don't know what i should improve. only the wrong notes..

in my eyes it has much colour and a singing character.. you have to imagine i play it on a wonderful steinway. i did and it was fantastic..

now don't think i am arrogant

nevertheless i will record it again with a better mic ( i hope)!

Nice job, although I did not like it at all. Before I give you some ideas I should disclose I think such a superb artist as Martha Argerich doesn't play this piece the way I like it, so you are in good company.

Your pedaling does not follow either the melody nor the harmony, hence the blurryness.

it may be the piano, or the recording, but I find the touch percussive and monochromatic. One way to expand your color palette is to pratice at various attack speeds. Note I am not talking about a slower tempo, but just depressing the keys slower (and therefore earlier). Also vary the part of the finger involved in touching the key, and how the weight of the arm either floats or gets poured onto the keyboard. If you don't like Arrau, this probably makes no sense for you, but that's the way I explore these things.

I find no sense in the long pause between the A and the B sections. if you have read no E.T.A. Hoffman, please do.

Keep loving the piano and ignore what gets in your way to enjoy what you are doing.

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