We started out that way.
Except yours was closer to 97%.Thal
I think we should bring back the press gangs,
yet there are not many French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Dutch or Germans and very few from Scandinavia and the Middle and Far East.
Immigrants generally come here to improve their standard of living, not make it worse.
Why anyone from a Scandinavian Country would want to come here is beyond me.
You've still not answered my question about the effect of those entitled to come to Britain actually coming to Britain.And you're still largely off-topic!
Re the UK, I would rather listen to the Schumann piano concerto on repeat than vote for a pompous, stuck-up, self-entitled thinks he knows it all p***k like Cameron, or for an amorphous, spineless political jellyfish like Miliband.
Many have the right to come back, but how many would want to?. Massed migration of expats is hardly likely to happen.
You are off topic as well, so if you want me to stay on topic, stop rabbiting on about immigration.
Me too, which is why I have dumped the Tories and defected to UKIP. A strange bunch of individuals, but the only Party who will put the interests of the British first and they could end up holding the balance of power.
Where suuport for UKIP might make for even greater political instability would be that, should such support be sufficient, no coalition of two parties could achieve a majority - now that would cause a problem of ten, wouldn't you say?!
All coalitions cause problems as the majority partner can be consistently scuppered from doing anything by a party that hardly anyone voted for.
A UKIP/Tory partnership should be one made in heaven, but Farage will not do business with Cameron.
Personally, I hope Cameron is ousted and a proper right wing leader installed that patch up the differences with UKIP and keep Labour and the loony left well away from the controls of power that they abused so much at their last attempt.
Labour will not give us a say on Europe
That said, the Tories have hardly any respsentation in Scotland at present and I rather doubt that UKIP will cit much ice there either.
Indeed not, and it is a shame that the Scots don't have similar representation in Westminster, instead of the 59 MP's they currently enjoy, 41 of which are Labour.Get rid of them and Cameron and perhaps we can have a proper right wing government.
as we each recognise
They have too much representation in Westminster as it is.
Unless I am much mistaken, the English have no representation in the Scottish Parliament.
Hopefully, they will get their independence and their votes will stop another Labour government getting elected.
Indeed not, and it is a shame that the Scots don't have similar representation in Westminster, instead of the 59 MP's they currently enjoy, 41 of which are Labour.
I enjoy very few Scottish MPs
unless comedic value counts. Gordon Brown did "save the world" you know.
This seems to run entirely counter to the first paragraph of your post #66 above!
England would also have to reapply for EU membership in its own right and if that situation arises before the in/out referendum that will not likely take place for at least another three years, it would risk nullifying the very need to hold it.
No it does not. I was suggesting that it was a shame that the Scots don't have the same representation in Westminster as the Tories have MP's in Scotland. ie one.
I can think of no better scenario than escaping the clutches of the EU by splitting with the Scots. Why bother with a referendum when you can just "forget" to reapply.
Then, we won't waste billions of pounds so fat Greeks can retire at 45
and have to abide by decisions made by judges with 5 minutes experience in a Country where it is a national passtime to urinate over donkeys.
It certainly doesn't count where Gordon Brown's concerned - and if he did indeed "save the world", that's a whole lot more than his policies ever enabled anyone else to "save"...
Deirdre -- it is worth remembering (although almost no one ever does) that the United States was not originally set up as a democracy, but as a republic. There is a difference, and a very critical one: the original intent was that each small community would send it's very best, most respected person to serve in a larger assembly; typically a Town would send it's best people to the State. Then the States would send their very best, most respected people to the Federal level, and, at the same time, the States representatives, called Electors, would select the person they felt was most qualified and best to be the chief executive -- the President of the republic -- whose job was to represent the country as a whole abroad, and to faithfully execute the will of the Legislature -- Congress.In addition, the State and Federal legislatures were all carefully set up to give equal weight to the people -- the "lower" house -- and to the regions (various regions of a state, or the several States) -- the "upper" house.A democracy is not set up that way. For better or worse, a democracy gives each person an equal vote. The old New England Town Meeting is a democracy -- and originally the only one.The United States has moved much closer to being a democracy, and there is some agitation for moving even farther that way. Is this good or bad?It is my personal opinion -- and strictly my own; no one need agree with me if they don't want to -- that this shift is bad. Pure democracies, from Athens on down, have shown a lamentable tendency to elect leaders based on popularity, rather than on ability, have also shown a lamentable tendency for those leaders to act so as to increase their popularity, rather than to lead in a statesmanlike fashion.
Right wing = repub and left wing = democrat...but really, two 'made up' phrases for either side to feel superior to the other. Democracy was never intended to create such a rivalry. This is why I'm now an independent, and I hope that someone pulls up in that category to win the presidency some day. (speaking for the US, as that's where I reside)I think the whole 'system' is broken, for democracy doesn't seem like it's government for the people, by the people, anymore. It's a shame what it's turned into!
Right wing =Tea Party/Republican valuesLeft wing = Democratic/Liberal values
Democratic/Liberal values = Left Wing ? REALLY???Left Wing is often associated with the Socialists and communist-leaning political groupings.Democrats would be centrists and the Republicans would be Right of Center.
Curious, how would you define a centrist?
Left Wing is often associated with the Socialists and communist-leaning political groupings.Democrats would be centrists and the Republicans would be Right of Center.
I think you are right. These days the term Repub Democrat , or Red vs Blue - is all more of media labeling than based on any ideals. Almost like a soccer team name or something.
When one is left out, or feels that way, one tends to become a bit more strident -- which may account for a feeling that the country has moved right when seen (and heard!) from a distance.
For a while, there have been socialist/communist influences at work in the US, and some would say they have infiltrated the democratic party. One problem with labels is that they are not always defined the same way by all people. I believe most registered democrats do not align themselves with socialism, but that doesn't change the fact that those with socialist political views are using the party to change policies in that direction. I am not old enough to know by experience, but I understand that the democratic party used to be in the center, as you say.
Thanks for your insight - liked your post. I agree that it's moved left overall, which is why I questioned the other poster. I may have misunderstood, which is why I asked, but the comment seemed to suggest that the country has moved right. I'm still not sure what it meant, but oh, well . . .
The Tea Party is also associated with some other aspects that have little correlation with political principles: they despise intelligence, education, and scholarship. They are, however, determinedly pro-God!
Oh dear I'm afraid I have to take a bit of an exception to your rather sweeping generalisation here. I would say that your description of Tea Party members could be applied to many members of all parties in the US.
Right wing =Tea Party/Republican valuesLeft wing = Democratic/Liberal values I myself am a proud Tea Partier. As a Tea Partier, Liberals would consider me an "extreme right winger".As a Tea Partier, I consider Liberals "extreme left wingers"Bam. Politics. Don'tcha love it?
There is nothing inherently wrong about Socialism. It would be an ideal world if we could take the perfect fruits of both capitalism and socialism, and mold them together. Would that be 'center?' Idk.
Not so much "centre" as "middle", as in Middle Kingdom, aka China.
It would be anarchy if China became a democracy, think of how long the lines would be at the voting booth!!!