Anyone got some pedaling exercises I can use?

[mjames]

Yeah, really want to improve my pedaling skills. Been practicing for a week and I'm still having some trouble getting rid of that clashing sound without the gaps  

at this rate i might just stick to baroque forever

glen gould #2

[j_menz]

Get the Gebhard or the Rubinstein The Art of Pedaling.

Summary: stop using it as a switch and use it like a clutch.

[mjames]

Metaphors 


Isn't there an imslp for books? Sigh I hate wasting money but looks like I'll have to do it...

[j_menz]

Metaphors  

 

It means start practicing your half pedalling - using various degrees of pedal rather than just off or floored. Your ears are your guide, and you'll see just what it's capable of. And those nasty clashing bits will disappear.

Isn't there an imslp for books? Sigh I hate wasting money but looks like I'll have to do it...

There is, it's called Project Gutenberg, but neither book seems to be on it.

IMSLP also has the text of a number of books, but again neither of these.

[nyiregyhazi]

Get the Gebhard or the Rubinstein The Art of Pedaling.

Summary: stop using it as a switch and use it like a clutch.

If the problem is blurring and gaps, step one is that he SHOULD use it like a switch. The first step is to get used to hearing blurring as the new sound enter, then switch to completely dry clarity and finally listen for slight blossoming of the sound as the foot goes down again. Every step should be based on hearing a cue and then taking that as permission to go to the next step. Unless you've heard the desired cue, the next step should not be allowed to commence. You need a feedback loop that is founded upon checking each result before the next step is even on the radar.

With that foundation, there's plenty of room to start exploring the pedal like a clutch. I rarely change the pedal without some kind of fluttering after the main change. But if blurring and gaps are common due to improper pedal timing, stage one is to learn to time it flawlessly as a simple on/off switch. Complexity should only begin after the basic coordination is flawless.

PS. The above exercise is all that is needed for basic pedal skills. Play any series of chords and look for every step on every new harmorny- blurring, complete clarity and finally a slight addition of resonance to a previously clean sound. The blurring may be milliseconds, but it's an essential step of getting to grips with pedalling. If there's no blur, it's usually because the foot let go prematurely. Blurring followed by clarity is what tells you the basic premise is working.

[outin]

Get the Gebhard or the Rubinstein The Art of Pedaling.

There's also this:
Joseph Banowetz: The pianist's guide to pedalling

[awesom_o]

at this rate i might just stick to baroque forever

glen gould #2

Glenn Gould didn't just stick to baroque... he had a very wide repertoire, which included all of the Mozart Sonatas, and almost all of the Beethoven Sonatas, as well as quite a bit of 20th century music!

I don't know about pedaling 'exercises'.... There are at least 8 different levels of pedal on a good grand piano. Be sure you aren't just using one.

In general, the better you can play without pedal, the better you can play with pedal. 

Do you have a teacher?

[lostinidlewonder]

Play piano with one finger, connect these with pedal, dont overlap or have sound gaps. Start slow, increase speed. Easy.

[mjames]

Glenn Gould didn't just stick to baroque... he had a very wide repertoire, which included all of the Mozart Sonatas, and almost all of the Beethoven Sonatas, as well as quite a bit of 20th century music!

it was a joke

No moneyz. No teacher :x

[awesom_o]

No moneyz. No teacher :x

Music can be either an expensive hobby, or a poorly-paid profession 

How many years did you have lessons for?

[mjames]

Music can be either an expensive hobby, or a poorly-paid profession  

How many years did you have lessons for?

I used to live in Mozambique, no classical music teachers there. So I used some books and start playing for 2 years.

Now I'm studying abroad, found a cool piano to play on, annnnnnnnnd pedaling is completely different on it than it is on an electric piano. So, I'm pretty much going back to the beginning to correct some stuff. Like my pedaling. guess this is the universes way of telling me i should finish learning all of bachs inventions

[awesom_o]

Learning all of Bach's inventions is a real achievement that few professionals can claim to have done!

I take it you are studying something other than piano abroad?

[mjames]

Of course! I wouldn't be having these beginner's mistakes/bad habits if I was a piano major lol

Yeah, I'm into engineering and stuff.