Beethoven: Sonata 21 (Waldstein)
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 Beethoven Waldstein
February 25, 2011, 08:55:49 PM by fred792k
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Hello fellow students.
Having played for 7 months, I've taught my self to read sheet music and so.
I'm half way through Liszt's Nuages Gris, og done with Traumerei and Moonlight mvt 1 (plus a bunch of other pieces).
I was thinking about learning the 2nd movement of the Waldstein sonata. I've played a minute and a half of it so far. Do you think I'm good enough to learn the whole movement?
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Beethoven: Waldstein
February 25, 2011, 09:21:02 AM by pianisten1989
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This is the sonata I'm playing atm. It's a bit too much on the metronomic side, so I'm not very happy with that. And it sounds like I am in a box, with a very old piano, in a way, so the dynamic isn't what I was aiming for.. I think it's the left pedal. It's kind of messed up. Or maybe it's me, I don't know...
Anyway, tell me what you think!
(Sorry for the messing up in the end. I was struck by the oh so famous "Finally, I'm almost finished, and I know this part.. Oh sh*t!")
The other 2 movements will come later.
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 Is this peice too hard to play?
November 14, 2010, 11:56:42 PM by ivorybabe247
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I really want to play the first movement of Waldstein by beethoven for my senior performance, it is quite lengthy so i would have to downsize it in some areas. I am a sophomore in high school. I'm very drawn to this peice. I am playing scherzo by medelshon this year and Chopin's Waltz in A flat major next year. if i start on waldstien next year, playing it for two years, should i be able to pull this off??
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Beethoven Waldstein questions
November 18, 2009, 11:18:38 PM by jehangircama
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I'm working on this at the moment, and was curious about a couple of things.
1. The page before the prestissimo in the 3rd mvt- how do most people play this? is it with the right hand jumping all the time (with 1-3-1-3-1-3 on each of the sets of notes) or doing something like 4-5-4-2-1-2 (with the hand staying more or less in the same position)? I personally have been trying to mix up the 2- I find it easier to keep the hand position the same except for 1 line where I need to jump (just as the left hand has to start hitting the low C). But am not sure whether the melody will come out at a higher tempo using 4-5-4 for the upper notes. The reason I'm keeping it like this is that I believe that the continuous jumps will make the whole page sound harsher than it should...not one seamless flow which is the way i believe it needs to be played.
2. In the prestissimo, do most people play the octaves as a glissando? The recording I like is that of Ashkenazy where he doesn't gliss. Further, there is no indication saying gliss on my (urtext) edition. What is the consensus on this? (and btw, how DOES one play an octave gliss? Have never really attempted it...)
fingering is everything in this piece, was surprised with some of the sections in the first mvt. they are pretty tricky to play cleanly. but have managed to now set most of the fingering, just not sure abt this one page.
thanks
jc
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Fingering Issues on 3rd Mvt Waldstein
May 06, 2009, 05:34:42 PM by dapianoman32
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I have been having some issues in the trill section of the third movement...it is the part when there is a trill in the right hand and while u are playing the trill there is also a melody line playing in the top 4 and 5 fingers...if anyone has played this before and has a tip or trick on how to play this that would b great
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Beethoven Waldstein or Haydn sonata in C
November 14, 2008, 07:53:06 AM by mingkei
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I have played the first movt of Beethoven's Waldstein more than 15 years ago, then learned the 2nd/3rd movt. about seven years ago.
Indeed, the entire Waldstein is very difficult.
And my question is: I am planning on entering a competition next year, and I need to play a classical sonata. The waldstein seems to be good candidate since, as I already said, I played the whole thing and am very familiar with it. But still, I must say that all 3 movts are very difficult. (The 1st is extremely tough, but I have performed and competed in competitions and know that I can do fine. But then, the 3rd...full of challenges...yes, I played it through, but I think there're lots of room for improvement, and some of those improvments seem to be impossible to bring about...I mean, the challenges with trills everywhere, with how the Left/right hands should go together so to sound satisfactory, in a definite demand of an extremely good quality of touch, and with the big section before "Prestisimo", etc, etc...
Because of the concern I have for a satisfactory performance of the Waldstein, I started looking around for other classical sonata. I find Haydn's C Major Hob. 50. You know that light-hearted 1st/3rd movt, with a gorgeous 2nd movt??
I just want to hear people's opinion. Do you think I should work on the Haydn instead of the Waldstein for the competition? I know the Haydn should also have its challenges. But they seem more manageable. Of course, i don't think the Haydn is "easy", but considering that I don't have a teacher now to work with me in polishing the 3rd movt of Waldstein or giving me advice for the overall sonata, the Haydn seems to be something I have enough experience to make it sound very good on my own, but the Waldstein...I don't know. The only advantage of the waldstein, is I am familiar with it--I know the 1st movt so well that I won a scholarship for it, but that was 15 years ago.
So, what do you think?
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Beethoven's Waldstein
December 08, 2007, 01:02:07 AM by gregh87
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I just started this piece, and I remember my teacher saying something about a difficult glissando somewhere in this piece. So do you play the fast octaves in the Presto part of the third movement like you'd play a glissando? They sound pretty ridiculous in the Ashkenazy recording I've listened to. Are they like octave-glissando's for one hand?
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