Mr. Ramsey, I have been meaning to get you this link, but time and attention-span got away from me. The American pianist, Ivan Davis, has a website and he discusses Hatto's playing at length. Ivan is no slouch, believe me. Friends of mine studied with him in Miami. He competed in international competitions with many pianists who are well-known artists today, two of which, Argerich and Freire, remain close friends. He's rather well known for appearing on The Metropolitan Opera Broadcasts as a commentator and quiz participant. Well-rounded musician whose opinion is highly regarded.He has almost single-handedly brought Hatto's colossal pianism to the attention of US pianists. He's in close contact with her widower and has become a great promoter of her CDs. She is, indeed, phenomenal. I've never heard better playing by anyone. Ever.Check out Ivan's website for more info: https://ivandavis.com/Best,Michael
3. And here comes the most important point: such a musical grace and elegance, such a technical control - in the Godowsky studies she is completely head by head with Hamelin, she doesn´t show any sign of fatigue, any sign of difficulty (as oposed to Carlo Grante, Ian Hobson and yes, as oposed to Berezovsky). So much natural elegance and sensibility in the Chopin studies, mindblowing Paganini variations by Brahms !!!
Your blind Hamelin idolatry prevents you from hearing properly. Take off your rose colored ear-muffs.
Just keep an open mind to new pianists.
. check ignis fatuus for the biggest exhibit of evidence. nuff said.btw, sorry guys for hijacking the thread.
well, i havent listened to the bootleg (i have it), actually, but the studio one is a bit muddy compared to hamelin, hatto, or grante. i cant hear that bottom voice in the left hand as clear either. in all fairness, i will reconsider and listen to the bootleg and studio recs in depth.
you should open your mind for upcoming greatest pianist ever...Ingolf Wunder
EXCUSE ME! I thought this was a Joyce Hatto appreciation thread. Its a bit bad mannered to steal the womans glory by discussing these wanabes in her thread. The woman was mistreated by the musical establishment during her lifetime and didnt recieve anything like the attention she deserved. At least give her the honour of your attention here. She was stunning in the classics. In my mind easily the equal of Haskil who was also cut off with a debilitating disease. Though no competition named after Hatto. At least yet!
Though no competition named after Hatto. At least yet!
In light of several of the above statements, this link is going to make an exceedingly amusing impact, I think:https://www.pristineclassical.com/HattoHoax.htmlApologies if it's already been posted here (I got it off PW); here's the second link:https://www.gramophone.co.uk/newsMainTemplate.asp?storyID=2759&newssectionID=1It's the real deal: Hatto was a hoax. I know that it won't mean anything right now since it's been exposed for all to see, but I personally have always been slightly suspicious of her recordings...not to mention uninspired by them...turns out, "her" Chopin-Godowsky recordings are actually Carlo Grante's, albeit sonically modified. It reminds me of that one guy who "plays" Alkan--Nanasakov, the REAL computer player...
I haven't bothered to give this assinine and offensive rumor credence -- until now. I KNOW (and have known) personally Carlo Grante AND Joyce Hatto, along with her widower William Barrington-Coupe. Joyce's playing is the real thing and undoctored. As much as I admire Carlo's ability, it doesn't compare to Joyce's and he himself would agree to that. She is, quite literally, the greatest pianist in the history of recorded music. Every leading critic in the UK and US has now been closely reviewing her recordings and pronouncing them nothing less than "benchmark recordings," outstripping Hamelin and everyone else. Not one leading critic in an established, respected musical publication anywhere has detected a hoax. And, yes, they've heard this stupid rumor, too, and have had too much intelligence to even bother mentioning it. It's THAT absurd and ridiculous.Not to mention cruel. Another great talent I know personally who knew Joyce personally -- especially in the last year of her life when she recorded an enormous bulk of her repertoire -- is the American pianist and Horowitz student Ivan Davis, who lives in Miami where he is (and has been) artist-in-residence with the University of Miami for years. He has many letters and emails from Joyce, parrticulary in the last weeks of her life when she was sadly commenting on this hoax rumor and other issues. He also has recorded radio interviews from earlier years done for New Zealand broadcasts. All her life, the British musical estalishment shunned her, and now, even in death, people like you are trying to destroy her reputation and recorded legacy with patently absurd rumors. What motivation could you possibly have for spreading this stupid and vicious rumor? Because she's a woman? Because she isn't a "Brand Name" like Hamelin who has had recording company PR departments behind him "sellling" him to you as the greatest pianist alive? Why?Beyond the stupidity of this rumor is the technical question of how ANY computer program could effectively doctor (and therefore IMPROVE) any pianist's playing where it would capture the extreme subtlety and refined and varied stylistic nuance that Joyce brings to her vast recorded output. I'd think you'd be embarrassed to even suggest that this woman's recordings are a hoax based just simply on this technical impossibility. Have you even LISTENED to any of her recordings? This Forum has reached a new low and you should be ashamed to spread this outrageous rumor on such a site. I'm appalled, quite frankly.
Another great talent I know personally who knew Joyce personally -- especially in the last year of her life when she recorded an enormous bulk of her repertoire -- is the American pianist and Horowitz student Ivan Davis, who lives in Miami where he is (and has been) artist-in-residence with the University of Miami for years. He has many letters and emails from Joyce, parrticulary in the last weeks of her life when she was sadly commenting on this hoax rumor and other issues. He also has recorded radio interviews from earlier years done for New Zealand broadcasts.
if it is true that someone doctored Carlo Grante recordings to make him sound like a great pianist, that person must be a genius for the ages, so someone deserves credit.Walter Ramsey
What a passionate topic. You are jumping to all sorts of conclusions (the hoax chatter is "cruel," people trying to "destroy her reputation," inventing all kinds of "motivations," etc.) But I notice in all your reminiscience of Joyce Hatto, and Ivan Davis', you don't mention anything about hearing the playing live. If you have, or if he has, please, tell us about it! That is th eonly way to counteract these rumors: not mentioning letters or interviews, or passing personal acquaintances. Walter Ramsey
I KNOW (and have known) personally Carlo Grante AND Joyce Hatto, along with her widower William Barrington-Coupe.
I have still seen no credible eveidence that the recordings claiming to be hers are fake. I think the discussion here is distasteful. If it must go on could it transfer to another thread.