Chopin: Nocturne opus 9 no 1
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Cross rhythms in Chopin Nocturne 9/1 in Bb minor December 08, 2010, 12:49:02 AM by brogers70
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Does anyone have suggestions for how to learn the 11 vs 6 and 22 vs 12 cross rhythms in the opening of Chopin's Bb minor Nocturne? For 3 vs 4, 4 vs 5, 3 vs 5 I just figure it out mathematically and practice beating the pattern with two hands until I start to feel it as a cross rhythm rather than an abstract pattern. That has worked well. But I can't manage that for 11 vs 6.
How have you learned this? (1) Just feel it and go with the flow? (2) Start as 4 vs 2 4 vs 2 and 3 vs 2 and then try to loosen it up a bit? (3) Figure out which order the notes fall in in the two hands without worrying about exactly which 1/66th of a half measure they fall on? (4) Listen to a recording again and again until you get the sound in your head and then imitate it? (5) something else?
I love this piece and this rhythm problem is the biggest obstacle for me, so any suggestions would be really appreciated.
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VIDEO: Chopin Nocturne B flat minor Op. 9 No. 1 November 29, 2010, 10:48:02 PM by gligeti
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Hi all,
I have recently returned to playing the piano, well, I should say playing classical piano after a long journey in other genres. I am looking for advise for improving skills/interpretation.
Here is one of the recordings I made recently. I am aware of a couple of mistakes as well as errors in the actual notes ( an a instead of the correct b flat in the connect note; and a missing repeat and a bad note of the last arpeggio leading to the repeat of the main section) -- these are easy fixes, I am more interested in advise on interpretation. Dynamics is somewhat swallowed by the camcorder's auto-level thing unfortunately, plus there are obvious limitations in the subtlety with the otherwise decent Yamaha upright, but I think you can still hear some problem areas in the interpretation...
I could say the excitement of the recording added a stress, but it is not the full truth since I had played in public (jazz, rock, popular), so while there has certainly been some stress, nearly not as much as with other 'first' youtube posters, so don't hesitate to beat me up.
Thanks for any advise or comment -- good or bad
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Fingering for Op.9 No.1 July 01, 2009, 11:25:27 PM by frank_48
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is it ok if i used the following fingering in this piece? i tried using the reccommended fingering but it stretches my hand too much and causes pain, my teacher insisted that id get used to it but i doubt it.
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Chopin Nocturne op9 No.1 Does anyone know about the background of the piece?? November 08, 2007, 03:16:31 AM by dora96
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G'day
I am learning this piece at the moment, To help me to memorize this piece and I also need to write something about this piece. I find that the left hand is harder to memorize because there is various form to remember and I find that bit confused sometimes. The middle part, how to play without too boring, can anyone advise me about speed where should I increase or decrease? Some people said to play it more romantic more dreamy. However, I feel I play it like a dead warm up. Can anyone advise me? Can anyone give me the background and period about this piece. Why, how and what Chopin wrote this piece. This is the first Nocturne, is there any special from other Nocturne, theme? Is there any history and story about this song prompted Chopin to compose this piece. Anything I would appreciate very much !!
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