Vaiations Seriouses, Mendelssohn

[triton]

Hi.
 
I am looking for a new piece and I think this piece is really awesome

How difficult is it? Ive played beethoven moonlight no 3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa. So i think i've got the right hands for it. Or??

[thalberg]

Pianostreet member amanfang just played it.  You could PM her and ask.

It sounds like your other rep makes you ready.

[rob47]

How difficult is it? Ive played beethoven moonlight no 3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa. So i think i've got the right hands for it. Or??

Surely Chopin op. 10 n.12 gave you the left hands for it also?!..

Best,

Alistair

[jakev2.0]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

[thierry13]

You have exactly the same repertoire I had before playing that piece haha ! I did chopin op.10 no.12 for college auditions and played Mazeppa and op.10 no.4 last year, and I'm currently playing the variations sérieuses, and it's going on pretty well, it's not over you !

[hodi]

You have exactly the same repertoire I had before playing that piece haha ! I did chopin op.10 no.12 for college auditions and played Mazeppa and op.10 no.4 last year, and I'm currently playing the variations sérieuses, and it's going on pretty well, it's not over you !

good job mr. genius.

[retrouvailles]

Surely Chopin op. 10 n.12 gave you the left hands for it also?!..

Best,

Alistair

Hahahaha, well done.

[dnephi]

Oh yea, you are so amazing because you've played the Mazeppa.  I'm sure you did it complete justice.

[triton]

You have exactly the same repertoire I had before playing that piece haha ! I did chopin op.10 no.12 for college auditions and played Mazeppa and op.10 no.4 last year, and I'm currently playing the variations sérieuses, and it's going on pretty well, it's not over you !

Cool  hehe. Guess have the same taste then. The worst thing about it is that is so long. Does pianists play only parts of it or do they play the whole piece always? I like the ending the most

[triton]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

By the way, what was that?

[dnephi]

By the way, what was that?

Are you kidding?  Your post is ridiculous.

[triton]

Are you kidding?  Your post is ridiculous.

Explain how, then. I'm asking a lot of people here if i'm ready to play variation seriouses, and I give some examples of pieces that I play. Is that ridiculous?

[hodi]

Explain how, then. I'm asking a lot of people here if i'm ready to play variation seriouses, and I give some examples of pieces that I play. Is that ridiculous?

trying playing some songs without words to get the mendelssohnian feeling first
like op.19 no.5

[general disarray]

Hi.
 
I am looking for a new piece and I think this piece is really awesome

How difficult is it? Ive played beethoven moonlight no 3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa. So i think i've got the right hands for it. Or??

From this repertoire, it appears you have the hands for it.  The difficulties are often subtle and sometimes rather extreme, but the piece is eminently pianistic and well worth the effort.  Once you nail it, it's a joy to perform. 

I say go for it.

[triton]

Thanks for advice hodi. Btw. "good job mr. genious" What was that?

And thanks general disarray! Yes it would be very fun to play it in front of an audience I think. 

Dnephi: If I understood you correctly: You haven't even heard me play, so keep your negatism / jealousy / crap for yourself. I didn't wrote this topic so you could fill it up with it.

But thanks to everyone else!
Triton

[dnephi]

Well, to say it simply, given what you stated, it sounds like you're the kind of person who hacks through pieces for a bit and then decides that they've learned them.

If you had properly played "Moonlight #3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa," you would easily know that Mendelssohn's Variations Serieuses are far easier.

[triton]

Well, to say it simply, given what you stated, it sounds like you're the kind of person who hacks through pieces for a bit and then decides that they've learned them.

If you had properly played "Moonlight #3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa," you would easily know that Mendelssohn's Variations Serieuses are far easier.

I didn't know that, that's why i asked. Moonlight 3 is not that difficult, mazeppa is the most difficult piece i've learned.

I play few pieces and learn them well. You sure that seriouses are easier than moonlight 3 for example? I hope that it is easier than Mazeppa

I saw Richter played seriouses, and it looked kinda difficult, so I decided to ask on this forum before making a desicion.

Guess i could post a recording of me playing one of those pieces i've mentioned, maybe sometime I will

Now you are helping dnephi, instead of making fun of me. Thanks for respect!

Triton.

[maxy]

this looks like some SDC invasion   

[thierry13]

Well, to say it simply, given what you stated, it sounds like you're the kind of person who hacks through pieces for a bit and then decides that they've learned them.

If you had properly played "Moonlight #3, chopin 10 12, 10 4, liszt mazeppa," you would easily know that Mendelssohn's Variations Serieuses are far easier.

If you would be a pianist you would know Variations Sérieuses are far harder than Mazeppa to whoever has the arms to do so.

[thierry13]

Oh yea, you are so amazing because you've played the Mazeppa.  I'm sure you did it complete justice.

If that post was adressed to me, I have to say I do not personally think I did it complete justice. I hope to play it later on when I'm in university. Learning it in my first college session in 3 months was too much for me, I tought I had one year to learn it ... was a bit shocked to see I had to perform and get evaluated for it 3 months later.

[triton]

Dnephi`s a weird man. He`s on youtube. Just search for dnephi. In one video you can believe that he is a good guy. In the other I saw, he looks pretty retarded.. That is the meaning, but anyway it`s just stupid if you ask me. Wonder why he posted that video.

[retrouvailles]

He was corrupted by da sdc. Blame that for his weirdness.

[ronde_des_sylphes]

Dnephi`s a weird man. He`s on youtube. Just search for dnephi. In one video you can believe that he is a good guy. In the other I saw, he looks pretty retarded..

I don't think you'll find that it is the same person in both videos.. 


And in answer to your initial question, if you can play Mazeppa properly, you should have no problem with the Variations Serieuses.

[dnephi]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

He found da TM vid...

and thought it was me!!

[triton]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

He found da TM vid...

and thought it was me!!

Just stop laughing you imbecile, I think you are retarded anyway. Many people say I can play the Variation Seriouses if I can play the Mazeppa properly. I went to an audition with it, got 23 out of 25 points and came further to the national competition. The jury was 3 piano teachers at a university. I think that makes me ready.

[dnephi]

hahahahaa genius.

Pozt a rec!

[triton]

hahahahaa genius.

Pozt a rec!

Hehehe. This is just getting stupid. I'm not going to post a recording these days. But if I am, I can post it in the audition room. My topic got way off track.

[general disarray]

Just for the record, triton, you should work on the "Variations Serieuse."

I have no idea where the notion arises that this piece is of moderate difficulty.  It is a compendium of advanced classical piano technique with a few new twists thrown in that even Liszt found innovative and useful to his technical advances.

Even the technically easier variations are loaded with musical complexity.  Before I started working on the piece, I was a little dismissive of it.  So famous, so popular, it can't be that good.  Well, it is that good.  It's great. 

And the deeper I studied it, the greater -- and more difficult -- it became.

You will learn so much from the effort of mastering it. 

[michael_langlois]

Just for the record, triton, you should work on the "Variations Serieuse."

If I may offer a third option, perhaps one might endeavor to play the "Variations sérieuses."

Best,
ML

[triton]

Just for the record, triton, you should work on the "Variations Serieuse."

I have no idea where the notion arises that this piece is of moderate difficulty.  It is a compendium of advanced classical piano technique with a few new twists thrown in that even Liszt found innovative and useful to his technical advances.

Even the technically easier variations are loaded with musical complexity.  Before I started working on the piece, I was a little dismissive of it.  So famous, so popular, it can't be that good.  Well, it is that good.  It's great. 

And the deeper I studied it, the greater -- and more difficult -- it became.

You will learn so much from the effort of mastering it. 

Thanks for making a topic reply Yes I am sure I will learn much from it. It will take some time to learn it I guess, it's a big project. But I'll see if I can get enough time to learn it

Thanks for answers
Triton

[thierry13]

Just for the record, triton, you should work on the "Variations Serieuse."

I have no idea where the notion arises that this piece is of moderate difficulty.  It is a compendium of advanced classical piano technique with a few new twists thrown in that even Liszt found innovative and useful to his technical advances.

Even the technically easier variations are loaded with musical complexity.  Before I started working on the piece, I was a little dismissive of it.  So famous, so popular, it can't be that good.  Well, it is that good.  It's great. 

And the deeper I studied it, the greater -- and more difficult -- it became.

You will learn so much from the effort of mastering it. 

Agreed all the way, same for me.