You'll be doing a tremendous service to piano-learners worldwide, and for very little effort!
theres a link that i gotgo to "https://www.pianoforkids.com/PianoInstruction/lessonpage.asp?lessonnumber=1" and on the right side click on watch video under scales that shows how to do it. its a great webstite.PS. this in not spam or anythingPPS.im not sure if this is what you want tho
Now to the original question by Bardolph: items 1 - 4 are no problem, but how do you digitize the video? (My video camera is not digital ). Depending on how much trouble it is, I might do something about it. (But beware, I am intensely lazy).
ill need to stop him one day to ask him about thumb over ;o im still really unclear on how this whole thumb over thing works...(at least how it can work without gaps? )yeah and i agree with bardolph . im fed up with this. i read the chuan c chang piano technique book but the book has no illustrations to clear up my questions. and i took a look at the Sandor book ... even with the black and white pictures im still confused.. RAWR i need a video!
With your right hand, play CDEFG, then lift your hand, move it as a whole upwards, drop it down so that the thumb is now on the following A and play ABCDE. This is "thumb-over", which is a misnomer and actually means "no thumb-under". In scale playing, one of course plays CDE - lift - FGABC, etc.Now the shocker: there will be a gap! One can't play legato with the TO technique. Perhaps, that is the confusion. However, at fast speeds or when using the pedal, and with some refinement of the motions, the gap will be practically inaudible.
However, at fast speeds or when using the pedal, and with some refinement of the motions, the gap will be practically inaudible.
(Hope I did the quote thing right.)xvimbi, could you clarify the "refinement of the motions". I suspect that is a little harder to describe.
I watched the Taubman video and I think there is no TU or TO. However the video demonstate how to play sclaes effieiently with well rotation, shaping, and moving in-and-out. With all kind of motions, we can avoid the awkward TU movement.I could capture a video clip of that, but I don't know where to host the file.
I thougt TO is one of the easiest pianistic technique to describe with words, because the motions involved are very simple. I'll try: With your right hand, play CDEFG, then lift your hand, move it as a whole upwards, drop it down so that the thumb is now on the following A and play ABCDE. This is "thumb-over", which is a misnomer and actually means "no thumb-under". In scale playing, one of course plays CDE - lift - FGABC, etc.Now the shocker: there will be a gap! One can't play legato with the TO technique. Perhaps, that is the confusion. However, at fast speeds or when using the pedal, and with some refinement of the motions, the gap will be practically inaudible.
I'd do anything for a good meal in a three-star restaurant...You could also just watch the Taubman videos.
Don't you need a bank loan for the Taubman video's.Very expensive...
I havn't heard of this "thumb over" technique before, and im just wondering, why would you want to use this instead of thumb under?
I am fed up to the TEETH of reading about thumb-over vs. thumb-under technique and wondering if I'm doing it right. I want to SEE SOMEONE DO IT.
Check out this thread for starters: www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3100.0.html
Look in here:pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5767.msg56133.html#msg56133
I am fed up to the TEETH of reading about thumb-over vs. thumb-under technique and wondering if I'm doing it right. I want to SEE SOMEONE DO IT.Would someone who considers himself an expert in this technique please perform the following simple steps:1) Obtain, buy, borrow video camera with sound. Make sure you get a good solid stand for it as you will be filming yourself, or work with a friend (make sure you pick someone generally competent and intelligent at physical tasks.)2) Film someone else playing piano to learn where to best place the camera, and keep in mind that you want to see the action of thumb-over and thumb-under from several different angles. Keep at this until you obtain excellent visual information. All you're interested in is the hand, so get in close, and keep the thumb at the center of the screen. When the thumb-over action is going on, what does it actually LOOK LIKE? Get it clearly on the screen!3) LIGHT THE AREA PROPERLY. This means, REALLY BLOODY BRIGHT, ok? Grandma's 60 watt light bulb won't do the job here. You want several of the brightest lights you can possibly get, placed so as to eliminate ALL shadows. Again, practice and test until you obtain satisfactory results.4) Now that you're all set, film a number of bits of playing with thumb-over passages. (DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE SOUND QUALITY -- it will be good enough for this primarily VISUAL demonstration -- if you start to worrying about sound, believe me, it's a dark forest that has one entrance and NO exit.) Play them ROBOTICALLY SLOW, then a little faster, then a little faster, then at normal speed, etc. Demonstrate all the areas where the thumb-over technique is of particular value, where it's particularly difficult (to the thumb-under habitués), etc. Keep explanations to a minimum; Chang's covered that.5) Edit out all the bad bits, and then digitize it (or have someone help you with that -- turn it into some kind of computer video format) and upload it somewhere, or tell me about it, I'll help you distribute it.You'll be doing a tremendous service to piano-learners worldwide, and for very little effort!
The real purpose in working with scales is to get familiarised with the concept of key. By the way, he does demonstrate (very briefly) the use of arm weight rather than lifting fingers high, so it may be worth watching the video for that.
I promised bardolph via email that I would video tape TO and TU and add it to my web site. Can't promise when because my old camcorder is broke and must borrow from my daughter.
I havn't heard of this "thumb over" technique before,
maybe I'm an idiot but I can't tell the difference