Mayla's attempt to index the Forum (he he)

[Mayla]

I have been collecting links for a little while and would like to organize them ridiculously.  So, I will go alphabetically by major subject areas and within each subject I will also alphabetize (sometimes, he he).  Please feel free to add links you feel are important.  The whole point of this thread is to beat Bob  ... ehem, I mean create a very oraganized approach to information on the forum.


Submit a link for the index
http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9238.msg93690.html#msg93690
(request for help in compiling threads : description of how to prepare the link)



BERNHARD; MISC

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4858.msg46046.html#msg46046
(Paul's plan to try it himself)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4750.msg45222.html#msg45222
(Mound's questions to Bernhard and Chang on approach and the point)


http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6976.msg69298.html#msg69298
(Torp's experiences implementing Bernhard's ideas)


COMPOSER SPECIFIC

*BACH, JS

GENERAL

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=4825a1a8dcae9ef865ed9d102a4cfe8d&topic=2585.msg23066#msg23066
(Thoughts on Bach's work)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=243d1bea46b8b4a07ed6a0a9fd4732c7&topic=2917.msg25570#msg25570
(Progressive order of Bach's works)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3056.msg26761.html#msg26761
(Memorizing Bach)


INVENTIONS, PARTITAS, SINFONIAS, SUITES,

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5323.msg50895.html#msg50895
http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7303.msg72931.html#msg72931
(Ranking of them)

INVENTIONS (can be applied to any contrapuntal works)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4736.msg44774.html#msg44774
(how to play inventions – Escher picture – Example: Invention 4 – Analogy with the game of chess)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3171.msg27807.html#msg27807
(How to learn them)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2714.msg23310.html#msg23310
(How to teach them usng invention no 1)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=381a6f095e4b389a6231721eb3ee5351&topic=7246.msg72307#msg72307
(Help with practicing; 2-part invention in Bb)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4736.0.html
(invention 4 – comparison with chess game and Escher)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1911.msg14853.html#msg14853
(Invention no. 8 – relative difficulty of the inventions – progressive order of Bach’s keyboard works – CD  recommendations)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3187.msg27993.html#msg27993
(order of difficulty of the inventions)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5055.msg48120.html#msg48120
(fingering for sinfonia no. 9)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5143.msg49995.html#msg49995
(Inventions and sinfonias: Bach’s pedagogical order of difficulty)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7857.msg78912.html#msg78912
(ornamentation and inventions – general discussion on ornamentation)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7246.msg72307.html#msg72307
(how to outline invention 14)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8015.msg81149.html#msg81149
(ornamentation of invention no. 1)




WTC

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2857.msg25925.html#msg25925
(Ranking of them)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2857.msg59558.html#msg59558
(Plan for learning Bach's WTC)


*BEETHOVEN

Other

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3985.msg36303.html#msg36303
(does fur elise have a second movement?)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5162.msg49154.html#msg49154
(Fur elise: breakdown in sessions).

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7310.msg72914.html#msg72914
(Fur elise : which hand to use – the score is a model – use whatever hand is comfortable – Scarlatti k 27 as another example)

Sonatas

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2420.msg20980.html#msg20980
(Discussion on the difficulty of the several movements of the Moonlight. Grades for the movements)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2319.msg23059.html#msg23059
(Hammerklavier)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2748.msg23723.html#msg23723
(progressive difficulty list for all 32 sonatas)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5497.msg53751.html#msg53751
(Books on sonata analysis)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5672.msg55167.html#msg55167
(Moonlight information)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7139.msg76043.html#msg76043
(pieces that prepare for the Pathetique)


*CHOPIN

Etudes

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1927.msg16974.html#msg16974
(Etude op. 10 no. 1 – Cortot edition – Meiting and Hmoll discuss tendonitis)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2074.msg17096.html#msg17096
(different editions)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2678.msg23656.html#msg23656
(Suggestions for different editions)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3197.msg28098.html#msg28098
(Op. 25 no. 1 –  grades for all etudes and nocturnes)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3233.msg28792.html#msg28792
(op. 10 no. 2 – Robert Henry excellent post)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3916.msg35679.html#msg35679
(preparatory pieces for Revolutionary)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4957.msg47444.html#msg47444
(Op. 10  no. 9 – discussion of fingering and description of movement)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5090.msg48850.html#msg48850
(How to  figure out fingering for Op. 25 no. 11)


Nocturnes

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3267.msg28857.html#msg28857
(Op. 9 no.2 – fingering and LH movement)


Other

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2063.msg17158.html#msg17158
(Fantasie Impromptu –  Moschelles piece – the popularity of classical music)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2399.msg20514.html#msg20514
(Fantasie Impromptu – Chang’s book)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2958.msg25879.html#msg25879
(Easiest Chopin pieces – grades 4-5-6)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2702.msg23153.html#msg23153
(Tackling the fantasy impromptu)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3683.msg32884.html#msg32884
(difficulty of scherzos and ballades)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4070.msg37175.html#msg37175
(KK numbers – the problem with Chopin editions)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4114.msg37671.html#msg37671
(Chopin: saint or sinner – a provocative biography)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6957.msg69287.html#msg69287
(Chopin pieces grades 7 &

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6954.msg69289.html#msg69289
(Chopin Polonaises, graded)


Preludes

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2341.msg20135.html#msg20135
(preludes - Claudio Arrau as a tantra expert)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2516.msg21766.html#msg21766
(Preludes 8, 16 and 24 – difficulties in each)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3827.msg34579.html#msg34579
(grades for all preludes)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4016.msg36601.html#msg36601
(directions for interpretation of no. 4)



Waltzes

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2054.msg16942.html#msg16942
(how many waltzes are there in total)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3943.msg35797.html#msg35797
(grades for all the waltzes)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4713.msg44552.html#msg44552
(how to master the waltz in Am)



*DEBUSSY

*MOZART

*RACHMANINOV

*SCARLATTI

*SCRIABIN

*SHOSTAKOVICH


IMPROVISATION

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5421.msg51828.html#msg51828
(Inner state for improvisation – how to do it like cziffra – excellent advice from Ted)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8673.msg88006.html#msg88006
(Ted on improvisation)


MEMORIZING

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3561.msg31700.html#msg31700
(7 times)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2083.msg17227.html#msg17227
(Memorization techniques)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3858.msg34936.html#msg34936
(Before books were freely available memorization was paramount, book suggestions)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3056.msg26761.html#msg26761
(Memorizing Bach)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=afe662dd2f5e8b1e9378305818ae05c5&topic=7399.msg74758#msg74758
(Step by step example)




PERFORMANCE

*BODY MOVEMENT

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2809.msg24839.html#msg24839
(Body movement)


*NERVES

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8956.msg90799.html#msg90799
(Coping with nerves)



PRACTICE

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e12b20d0aa9ff4b9e7b88aaf7f528de&topic=6263.msg61691#msg61691
(Practice Time)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7603.msg76044.html#msg76044
(Practice Routine; long list of links by Bernhard)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=5e12b20d0aa9ff4b9e7b88aaf7f528de&topic=4988.msg47452#msg47452
(Better utilization of practice time : list of links by Berhnhard)


http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4168.msg38569.html#msg38569
(Keeping pieces polished)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5995.msg58775.html#msg58775
(Mastering a piece, what does it really mean?)


*MENTAL PRACTICE

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1894.msg14707.html#msg14707
(Mental preparation)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2458.msg21365.html#msg21365
(Mental practice)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8491.msg86440.html#msg86440
(List of links)

READING

*SIGHT READING

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1871.msg14384.html#msg14384
(Reading notation – Richmann’s book – Cambridge word scramble example)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1976.msg16072.html#msg16072
(Sight reading – Richmann’s book)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2406.msg20820.html#msg20820
(the grand staff)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2577.msg22247.html#msg22247
(Keyboard topography – how to find notes by touch)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2713.msg23282.html#msg23282
(Teaching bass clef – the full explanation for the grand staff)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2751.msg23710.html#msg23710
(detailed explanation of the sight-reading process)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2757.msg23890.html#msg23890
(Sight reading techniques – Good post by faulty on the folly of pedagogues)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2763.msg25148.html#msg25148
(music to develop sight reading from scratch)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3205.msg28255.html#msg28255
(how not to look at the keys – Richmann’s reviews)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3334.msg29381.html#msg29381
(Reading both staffs as a single grand staff - Reasons for working on scales - Detailed discussion of Richmann’s book)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4461.msg41580.html#msg41580
(Looking at the keys: Good or bad? exercises to help finding notes by touch. Good contributions by Chang).

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4506.msg42967.html#msg42967
(accompanying as a way to teach sightreading)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5090.msg48850.html#msg48850
(the score is tabs for piano)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7466.msg74462.html#msg74462
(Sightreading – Comparison with reading – St Augustine reading skills)

[Mayla]

REPERTOIRE

http://pianoforum.net/Graded_Pieces_All.xls
(An amazing  spreadsheet of graded pieces, compiled by Torp, of most pieces mentioned on this forum to date)


*BEGINNER/INTERMEDIATE

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=aeb70615d48402b7cccf2e5c95d7574b&topic=3998.msg36406#msg36406
(CD recommendations of easier pieces)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8126.msg82071.html#msg82071
(Pieces for an adult (quasi) beginner)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf5798828dafc1a200f2dbf4c611b64e&topic=7008.msg69624#msg69624
(Beautiful music that is not hard to play)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=a11a266b8b44ffc1144a8df8bb7e3683&topic=2147.msg18098#msg18098
(Easiest yet greatest music ever written)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=483afef2d3bd7cb5d0582abea155f8e0&topic=4140.msg38111#msg38111
(Beginner piece you like to give as repertoire)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2562.msg22127.html#msg22127
(A few suggestions)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=04772a91a07dc071bfaf7eb2b7239063&topic=5063.msg49589#msg49589
(Albums for the Young)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=cf5798828dafc1a200f2dbf4c611b64e&topic=7237.msg72162#msg72162
(Links to easy piano music)

*INTERMEDIATE/INTERMEDIATE-ADVANCED

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3721.msg33399.html#msg33399
(Intermediate Repertoire suggestions)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5986.msg58774.html#msg58774
(Favorite intermediate composition: wealthy list plus links)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,942.msg13370.html#msg13370
(Show off pieces and Bernhard's first post (he he))

*ADVANCED

*UNCOMMON WORKS

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2352.msg23287.html#msg23287
(Selections from 16 different composers)



TEACHING

*GENERAL

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3466.msg30666.html#msg30666
(Role of a teacher)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2450.msg21250.html#msg21250
(Four levels of students)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3673.msg32874.html#msg32874
(No good teachers only good students)

*LESSONS

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2260.msg19270.html#msg19270
(Bernhard's general approach)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7899.msg79689.html#msg79689
(Daily lessons)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2260.msg90216.html#msg90216
(A master plan: week's worth of daily lessons)

*VERY YOUNG STUDENTS

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2192.msg18542.html#msg18542
(What method do you use with very young students?)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=7b2598371ec7fe982098b8024e22cab2&topic=7301.msg72911#msg72911
(What's the right age to start; list of links)


*STARTING TEACHING

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2032.msg19339.html#msg19339
(Pitfalls and requirements)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2906.msg25591.html#msg25591
(Advice on a lesson syllabus)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2970.msg25991.html#msg25991
(Other areas to study to become a good teacher)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8050.msg81500.html#msg81500
(List of links)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5714.msg55753.html#msg55753
(List of links)






TECHNIQUE


EXERCISES

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9104.msg92245.html#msg92245
(A case against Hanon and Pischna)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5352.msg50998.html#msg50998
(Speaking of Hanon: list of links by Bernhard)


GENERAL

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,9141.msg92577.html#msg92577
(A compendium of tricks for acquiring technique)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=46761f5be657cf4dad674741293a9f09&topic=4880.msg46339#msg46339
(What is technique? )


HAND INDEPENDENCE

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1651.msg14344.html#msg14344
(Dropping notes: Bernhard)

OCTAVES

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1242.msg13378.html#msg13378
(Book study for octaves)


SCALES AND ARPEGGIOS

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8110.msg81884.html#msg81884
(list of links from Bernhard)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,7328.msg74359.html#msg74359
(Setting goals: a list of links by Bernhard)



THEORY

*FORM


*BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3034.msg26512.html#msg26512
(best theory books)

http://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5629.msg54681.html#msg54681
(advanced theory books)

For counterpoint sites, have a look here:

http://www-student.furman.edu/users/r/rkelley/16thcent.htm
(Study guide to 16th century counterpoint)

http://humanities.uchicago.edu/classes/zbikowski/species.html#cantus
(guidelines to species counterpoint)

http://www.listeningarts.com/music/general_theory/species/menu.htm
(Book : An introduction to species counterpoint- most excellent book with many exercises)

http://www.schenkerguide.com/species1.html
(schenkerian analyis of counterpoint)

For theory, have a look here:

http://www.tonalityguide.com/
(Tom Pankhurst excellent site on music theory).

[Mayla]

WHEN TO BEGIN STUDY


http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,6470.msg92142.html#msg92142
(Never too late)

[Mayla]

a little more space 

[Mayla]

OTHER HELPFUL COMPILATIONS

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5441.msg52047.html#msg52047
(Bob's Underground Lair)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,5767.msg56133.html#msg56133
(The Biggest list of links ever from Bernhard)



JUST FOR THE FUN OF IT

INTRODUCTIONS

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,122.msg510.html#msg510
(Introductions)

STORIES

TRIVIA

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8862.msg89888.html#msg89888
(The Obscure Riddle Thread #2)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,8691.msg88192.html#msg88192
(New Riddle Thread #2)




ONLY FOR THE EXTREMELY INTELLECTUAL

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,4751.msg44902.html#msg44902
(Snail Race)

http://www.pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,3801.msg34250.html#msg34250
(What if ?)

[Kassaa]

Wow, cool idea.

It would be cool as well if you copied the interesting good posts, and put them in one document so that you have one book with all the knowledge of pianoforum.net

[Kohai]

Yes!  This way Mayla, you can spend hours upon hours doing something that nobody else wants to do themselves!  How nice of you.  I wonder what would happen once you've compiled all of that information?

[Mayla]

Woah, it's okay Kohai  , I am sure there are a number of people working on very similar projects.  There are probably several whom are much more advanced within in it as well.  It's something I am doing anyway at this point.

Actually I have already started copying the posts that interest me from each thread, printing them and putting them into a binder.  But I have had a difficult time really organizing it all so I thought I would start this thread to aid in the organization and it will hopefully also be beneficial to anybody else who is interested.  By the way, I would be more than happy to share this at some point if it seems prudent.

People have been so wonderful to supply the information that they have, I am grateful for that, which is one of the reasons I would like to compile these things.  But completing it ?  LOL... that may take awhile (I'm extremely lazy  )!!! 

I do have practicing to attend to and teaching and that thing called... oh yeah, life (he he). 

I am a little curious about the end result of this.  Hmmm, we'll see I guess.  I am happy there is interest 

Mayla

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[Tash]

good work mayla! i'm highly impressed you've made the effort to do this keep up the good work!

[Dazzer]

you have WAY to much time on your hands

[Mayla]

I don't have any more time than anyone else, I just use it differently.  Besides, a lot of this is stuff I had to make time to collect.  I woke up a couple hours earlier every morning and spent an extra amount of time each day for about a month or so just collecting information and filing it away.  I have learned a lot in the process.  Now perhaps I qualify as a nerd or  a geek ?  Gosh, I really hope so 


Mayla

[nicko124]

Wow! It was interesting to view Bernhards first post in which he didn't get worshipped repeatedely after it. (not that he does not deserve it).

Still well done for providing those links, it is really useful to those of us who perhaps don't have as much free time as we would like. It's a bit like the guy who made the spreadsheet with the Graded Pieces on them.

Thanks

[abell88]

Thank you, Mayla, now my summer reading is organized!

[Mayla]

By the way, if people actually start using this to look up information  , would you mind dropping me a little note to let me know if it was not "easy" to find (you are welcome to message me or drop a post) ?  Thanks.

Mayla

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[Mayla]

he he.... LOL 

Well, thank you Bob.  I am *slightly overwhelmed* with the river of informations.  Hmmmm, I was thinking that this thread can just turn into a dump of information and I may start another eventually.  Thanks for your link to your index. 


Mayla 

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