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Offline goldentone

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Sanctus Penetrare
on: March 23, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
A journey of the soul. . .


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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 11:33:42 PM
Hi goldentone,

I think this improvisation is very creative and does, in fact, suggest a journey, a spiritual one, given the title.  The piece begins in G and ends in D with many changes in between, so I think it's safe to say it's polytonal.  In making some of the changes of tonal center, you introduce some interesting altered chords producing very interesting harmonies and turns of phrase.  The music seems to paint an ethereal world of vision and sound as one moves along the way.  Good job!     
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 07:27:08 AM
Hi Rachfan,

Looking back, I believe I was really enjoying myself as I played this.  This is the kind of place I want to be in when I improvise, and I know there are better and deeper places yet to play from than where I was here. 

Like its polytonality (thanks for bringing that to light), I believe Sanctus stands aloof, you might say, from the constraints of tempo and time.   

Your responses are always full of insights and fresh perceptions, and it is especially nice to receive them personally.  Thanks for your discerning and uplifting words--I took them
all in. :)
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 11:45:33 AM
A very peaceful  playing, and I enjoyed listening to it. 
Thank you for sharing your improv.

Best wishes,

go12_3
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 12:16:48 PM
Yes that is what I sensed too, it's so peaceful. Whereas when I saw the title I thought wow that's surely something like Dies Irae, majestic, dark, I imagined already some gothic cathedrals and stuff, lol. And then the first measures rather led me to an almost idyllic world :)

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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 01:20:50 PM
Does this title translate to what I think it does?!

And if so, did you post it on the Annunciation for that purpose?   ;D 8)


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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 08:08:32 PM
Does this title translate to what I think it does?!

And if so, did you post it on the Annunciation for that purpose?   ;D 8)


Walter Ramsey

No, I didn't mean it in that way.  The soul entering (penetrare) into a world, a greater level of existence, revelation, etc.  I hope you enjoyed it. :)
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 09:57:14 PM
No, I didn't mean it in that way.  The soul entering (penetrare) into a world, a greater level of existence, revelation, etc.  I hope you enjoyed it. :)

I think the Latin for soul is anima!

Anyways, I did get a good laugh seeing that on the day of Annunciation.

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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #8 on: March 27, 2009, 06:34:53 AM
I think the Latin for soul is anima!

Anyways, I did get a good laugh seeing that on the day of Annunciation.

Walter Ramsey

Well, yes, sanctus isn't soul, but sacred.  I had to look up the day of Annunciation to see what you were talking about.
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #9 on: March 27, 2009, 06:46:51 AM
Yes that is what I sensed too, it's so peaceful. Whereas when I saw the title I thought wow that's surely something like Dies Irae, majestic, dark, I imagined already some gothic cathedrals and stuff, lol. And then the first measures rather led me to an almost idyllic world :)

Well, peace and mystery aren't exclusive to each other, and the title derives, at least in part, from the mystery.  I agree that the first part is idyllic, which I didn't hear until you told me the first time you heard it.  Dies Irae it's not, for sure. ;D  There are three parts to it:  The first is from the beginning to 2:10, then the bridge/transformation 2:10-3:28, then 3:28 to the end.  Beginning at 3:28 there is a darkness there, like the darkness of mystery, a point of no return.
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #10 on: March 27, 2009, 01:19:11 PM
Well, yes, sanctus isn't soul, but sacred.  I had to look up the day of Annunciation to see what you were talking about.


I thought your title meant "Sacred Penetration," which would be appropriate for that holiday!

Walter Ramsey


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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #11 on: March 28, 2009, 06:19:34 AM
A very peaceful  playing, and I enjoyed listening to it. 
Thank you for sharing your improv.

Best wishes,

go12_3

Thank you, go. :)
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Re: Sanctus Penetrare
Reply #12 on: June 17, 2016, 10:39:15 PM
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