Liszt: Hungarian Rhapsody no 2
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| I am learning this piece as part of my summer repertoire, and I have a question concerning the Lassan: after the first fast run (going from G# above middle C to a very high E down to several B's) it goes through about 16 measures, then does to measures of trills. After these trills, there is a section of 6 measures of 32nd notes. I have a lot of trouble playing this part, and I was wondering if anyone had any advice. |
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Hi
I'm a big Liszt Fan and as next piece I want to play La Campanella or the Hungarian Rhapsody Nr. 2 (Not the Horowitz Arangement).
Which piece is harder to play? Or are both same difficulty? |
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Hi.
So here's a little background before I ask my question..
I've been playing the piano ever since I was little, however, never really seriously. My parents never made me practice, and I never really liked it.. Until about 2 years ago. I started playing the music from the "Castlevania" video game series by ear, on the piano.. Somehow found out about the Romantic composers, which brought me to Liszt. Well, after about a year, pretty much every Castlevania song would come easily to me and I got bored with them.. so I got my courage up and started to learn the second Hungarian Rhapsody(From the start of the Friska.)
About the time I started learning it is when I started taking lessons, which I'm very thankful for.. My teacher is a former student of Dr Suzuki, and she really has helped my technique on this song. I've been working on the correct fingering for the song for about... 3 or 4 months, and I can, at times, play through the first 6 pages of the Friska with great speed, something very close to the way marc andre hamelin plays it. Though I generally try to slow it down to the way other performers play it just for consistency.. Of course, having worked so hard on this song, my teacher is baffled that I even am able to get this far with it. She says I can actually play faster than she can.. haha. My only regret is that I didn't start real practice earlier in my life.
Anyways, my questions/concerns are these:
I can't play through this consistently like I want to. I know it takes time due to it's difficulty.. and there are other factors. It's always cold in my house so my fingers suffer from that.. and a piano tuner has said my piano hasn't been 'regulated' in way too long, so apparently he says certain keys won't repeat quick enough or play pianissimo consistently due to the felt and hammers or something like that. We're gonna get that looked at. However..
What are some ways to solidify this very fast technique? I'll have certain days where I am unstoppable, I can almost play through it with my eyes closed and without any stress in my hands or arms, then the other days It'll be the complete opposite. I can't make any speed and I run out of stamina way early. I'll admit, over the months it is getting better, but slowly..and I think I am the level of player to be able to accomplish this. But..
Are there certain practice techniques for this type of really fast and difficult song that is just better to solidifying it or does it really just take alot of time, given my experience? Thanks.
PS. I don't really know what kind of student I am since I can play advanced level songs, but I haven't really been in lessons that long.. I just posted this question on this forum since I think higher level people would be more familiar with it. |
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| I'm having a difficult time working out these measures, I'm practicing without a teacher and can't tell exactly what to do bginning with bar 35: LH plays a low G, then rolls a D-G-D-B#. Over this RH plays G-B#-G-B#. Now, is the left hand faster, is the D-G-D played during the same time as the first two RH notes, or are all these notes played together? I'm having a hard time even practicing these slow, esp. measures 39-40, it doesn't seem to sound like anything slow. Should I learn both hands seperately then just throw them together and hope for an automatic pilot thing? |
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The highest: hungarian rapsody no.2, piano sonata...
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This is from that same June 10 concert as the Ballade No. 2 recording I uploaded previously (http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,22178.0.html).
The performance was... well... I'm sure you can tell by the moments of memory lapse that it was a long evening and my brain was tired :P
*April 12 update:* video:
part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DlwYG_xE4
part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ir9brtz-Dc |
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Not a perfect performance, but I think it's listenable.
Comments, advice etc are most welcome.
Thanks,
Faj |
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Hey all,
I'm a piano major working on this Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No 2.
Very fun piece... but so difficult to play!
Anyone have any advice on playing his runs evenly?
Or just any other specific advice that was very helpful to you?
I'm open to anything.
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| [b][/b][flash=200,200][/flash] i'm playing this peace..some advises? |
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That peice is like, the biggest inspiration in my piano and non-piano life. Right now though, I'm 16yrs old (high-school Junior), a level 5 going 7 (skipping a level) and I wondering when I'd be ready to start working on it [b]efficiently.[/b] As in i'm not struggling and spending a week on each line to get it.
Right now I'm playing: Viennese Sonatina 1st Mov. (Mozart), Mazurka in F Major (Chopin), Nocturne in C# minor Posthumous (Chopin), Bagpipes (Bartok, this is the hardest piece I'm playing). All except the nocturne are in preperation for the CM test.
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