Schubert: Impromptu opus 142 no 2
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Posts in the piano forum about this piece by Schubert:
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| Bosie grand |
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The first in f minor, Allegro moderato!
EDIT: Finally they're all posted. here's #2:
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,26454.msg302431.html#msg302431
#3:
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,26454.msg302287.html#msg302287
and #4:
http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,26454.msg302362.html#msg302362 |
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i haven't really worked this, per se - but just sort of decided to play it tonght. here's the first part.
it's an echo of the allegretto from beethoven's piano trio op 70 no 2 |
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In order to practice the different voices in the first part, I started making a score where the voices are split in 4 staves (as suggested by Bernhard here http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2893.msg25659.html#msg25659).
Now, since this is the first time I'm doing this, I'd like to get some feedback about my score. There are a few things I'm not sure about, like whether the first note belongs only to the first voice, or to both the first and the second voices. Same question for every place I put a rest in the 2nd and 4th voices.
Here is what I've got so far:
[img width=600 height=576]http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q94/geschema/imp.gif[/img]
Many thanks,
Guy.
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While looking for practice tips for this piece, I came across this thread (http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,2893.msg25660.html#msg25660) with nice tips from a user called Bernhard. Still, I've got a lot of open questions concerning how to practice this piece. Questions that my teacher (unfortunately) is not able to answer, that's why I'm posting.
I'm currently working on bars 67-76, which consists of arpeggiated triplets. In his post (which is actually relating to the Burgmüller piece, but I assume the same applies to the Schubert one) Bernhard recommends to practice the triplets as chords, but in a (for me) completely unintuitive way: instead of playing [BGD] [BGD] [CAD] [AFD] [BGD], one should be practicing B [GDB] [GDC] [ADA] [FDB] [GDB*] (B* from the next triplet).
- Actually, this seems completely counter-intuitive, as I'm playing notes that are not supposed to be played together, so why am I supposed to do that?
- When tackling such a section, should I first practice it *only* as chords (with the right fingers, of course), and be able to play it as such at the required speed for HS practice (ie, faster than target HT tempo) before even thinking of practicing it arpeggiated? How do I know when I've done enough chord practicing?
- When doing rythm variations on this section to improve evenness, should I play the whole section (bars 67-76) or stick with bar-by-bar practice?
I've got lots of other questions concerning this piece, but I'll post them in a separate thread later.
Many thanks,
Guy. |
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I'm making a goal for myself to learn all the Schubert impromptus. Why am I doing this you may ask? I think they're beautifal pieces and they'd be good pieces to learn. I'm going in the order of easiest to hardest and I'm going to keep a log of them here:
Op.142 no.2
op.90 no.3
op.90 no.1 (learning) |
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Another impromptu
Update: I deleted the CD cut (91 downloads) and replaced it with the original tape recording which has better fidelity. |
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Hi...
I'm learning the Schubert Impromptu No. 2 Op. 142, but i need a little help....
I'm not sure how to play the trill in measure 76. I have no problems in performing a trill with my left hand, but I'm not sure between what two notes the trill ought to be performed! The one note has to be the f#, but what note is the second? |
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Hey everyone!
I'm 15 and i've been playing the piano for 18 months now, i'm trying the above stated piece and wondered if anyone had played it before and has any tips? Its going really well but the fingering could improve and theres alot of areas to work on - I could benefit from some peoples experience!
I've already got it on mp3 but if anyone's posted it on here I'd love to hear their interpretation
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