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Rach 3
on: October 13, 2005, 06:29:49 AM
My recording of Rach 3, with the Ukrainian Symphony Orchestra made in May. The conductor is Vladimir Sirenko. It's a recording made on a home camcorder, so don't expect good audio quality.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #1 on: October 13, 2005, 12:57:35 PM
2nd movement

3rd Movement, below somewhere
                       

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #2 on: October 13, 2005, 01:55:24 PM
not bad

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #3 on: October 13, 2005, 02:26:52 PM
I will give you 100% for courage , 100% for performance , great playing.
What was the occasion and please dont tell us you are only 16 years old.
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Re: Rach 3
Reply #4 on: October 13, 2005, 06:46:38 PM
Very nice playing.

It's a recording made on a home camcorder, so don't expect good audio quality.

I'm quite impressed with the recording quality actually.  What kind of camcorder was it?

Don't let your music die inside you.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #5 on: October 13, 2005, 07:15:12 PM
Do you have the third movement? By the way - excellent job - I couldn't do that... probably ever!!! You are so good.
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Re: Rach 3
Reply #6 on: October 13, 2005, 07:17:53 PM
I wish I could play like that... I ='d probably make myself cry with joy... :'(
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Re: Rach 3
Reply #7 on: October 13, 2005, 08:29:05 PM
Thanks a lot guys. I'll be playing it again on 10-21 (starting countdown now), this time with the Costa Rican National Symphony Orchestra. So, maybe I'll post that one, too.

What was the occasion and please dont tell us you are only 16 years old.

Nothing special. My teacher has a friend at the Kiev Conservatory, and I sent the recording I made with the Costa Rican Youth Symphony Orchestra, two years ago. As for my age, I'm 17 now.

I'm quite impressed with the recording quality actually. What kind of camcorder was it?

My dad's JVC MiniDV camcorder, don't know the model number, I'll ask him.

Do you have the third movement?

Sure. I'll be uploading it very soon (I hope so).

Thanks again.

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Reply #8 on: October 13, 2005, 08:41:54 PM
Wow.. that's great - you're only 17?!!? I'm 15 and am no where near that level - struggling to play the first movement of the second Rach concerto. I'm amazed with your performance and how do people get to play with proffesional orchestras? Not that i'm up to that standard, but it is interesting to know.
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Re: Rach 3
Reply #9 on: October 14, 2005, 02:11:05 AM
Third Movement.
how do people get to play with proffesional orchestras?

Sending videos to any place you can, sometimes you get something, other times, you don't.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #10 on: October 14, 2005, 08:46:33 PM
Thanks a lot for that last mp3 - it is inspiring!!! You are so lucky
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Re: Rach 3
Reply #11 on: October 18, 2005, 07:46:45 PM
I'll be playing it again on 10-21 (starting countdown now), this time with the Costa Rican National Symphony Orchestra.

Had my first rehersal with the conductor (private) today. So far, so good.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #12 on: October 22, 2005, 05:42:57 AM
10-21: The concert went great!! I finished hardly alive, but I feel really happy about my performance. And now to rest. :)

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #13 on: October 23, 2005, 12:40:36 AM
Since the performance was 2 years ago, I'm not sure what to say. I'm sure your playing has changed.

It's a nice performance overall (amazing at times), although it lacks a bit in proportion and mood (initially). It has much more fire than Kissin's Rachmaninov 2nd (recorded when he was 14). His performance was totally without emotion.

The section in the first movement just past 1/2 way through is really unique. Quite powerful! But, after the climax, the playing becomes too nonchalant/loose/jazzy. As with other very talented young pianist, watch out for a major tension/quality drop during parts that aren't especially technically difficult. A major pianist doesn't just thrill during the most intense sections. Every note/bar is part of a single whole, and thus important.

The solo about 3/4 of the way through is really overdone, and the section just after that could be better. The section about 8/10 of the way through (before the repetition of the opening melody) is a bit too loud, and has a slightly jazz feel. I'd be more "classical" with Rachmaninov. The ending is somewhat underwhelming.

I'll listen to the 3rd movement tommorrow.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #14 on: October 24, 2005, 06:32:16 AM
Thanks for the advice, superstition2.

Since the performance was 2 years ago, I'm not sure what to say. I'm sure your playing has changed.

Actually, the performance I posted was made about half a year ago. 2 years ago was my first performance of this concerto.

Thanks.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #15 on: November 06, 2005, 02:18:32 AM
Even though it was half a year ago.... I must say, I wouldn't have performed it in that state... or even Practice it alone in that state.

It'as one thing to have a few wrong notes here and there, but when you skip whole bars when you're playing with the orchestra... Thats devastatingly bad... sorry, but I listened to the whole thing (all 3 mov's) and there are several slips of the mind.... When you skip a bar or two the whole harmony gets completely smashed and all hell breaks loose on the listeners ear... The pianist is playing a C Major chord while the orchestra is 2 bars behind playing a D chord or something. Gets really messy.

I know you've probably fixed these in the last six months.... but the theme really (desperately) needs to be cemented into a pianists head, before they even talk about playing with a symphony....

PS - You lucky bugger - getting to play with a symphony orchestra... We only have one Major Orchestra in Western Australia.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #16 on: November 10, 2005, 03:47:28 AM
Medtner, man.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #17 on: November 12, 2005, 01:20:44 AM
Even though it was half a year ago.... I must say, I wouldn't have performed it in that state... or even Practice it alone in that state.
I enjoyed listening to a lot of the first movement. I haven't heard the other two yet. There's no need to be overly harsh, unless perhaps we're talking about Kissin's zombie-like performance of the 2nd concerto at age 14.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #18 on: November 12, 2005, 05:05:26 PM
It'as one thing to have a few wrong notes here and there, but when you skip whole bars when you're playing with the orchestra... Thats devastatingly bad...
I'm not trying to put any excuses here... but that stuff happens, you know.

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go to this website, 1/3 of the way down is info on the pianist. He was born in hungary and lives in costa rica.

That's Ukraine, not Hungary.  :)

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #19 on: November 12, 2005, 05:14:40 PM
PS - You lucky bugger - getting to play with a symphony orchestra... We only have one Major Orchestra in Western Australia.

BTW, we only have two Major Orchestras in Costa Rica... It's not like we have hundreds here, either.

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Re: Rach 3
Reply #20 on: November 13, 2005, 08:13:44 AM
1st mvt of Rach 3 was very enjoyable ..... nicely done! !  I look forward to mvts 2 and 3.
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