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Offline skyhawk

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The Tempest (Improvisation)
on: July 17, 2006, 06:58:20 PM
Hello, it's Skyhawk again. I got some more improv for you to listen to if you wish. In this one, I'm trying to show a style that I really like that has a more rhythm like structure instead of melodic. Well, tell me if it's good, or not.  :D

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 02:12:43 PM
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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 03:47:31 PM
aww poor little sad smiley face!!!!  I'm totally going to listen to this when I get home but this computer alas does not have a sound card. I don't think. ...  ....   upon reading your post, the riff from your first improv you posted started going through my head---it is eminently catchy!

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 03:51:11 PM
aww poor little sad smiley face!!!!  I'm totally going to listen to this when I get home but this computer alas does not have a sound card. I don't think. ...  ....   upon reading your post, the riff from your first improv you posted started going through my head---it is eminently catchy!
:D Cool, dude, can't wait.

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #4 on: July 19, 2006, 07:02:31 AM
Welp I've put it on...really enjoying it so far....

okay some additional comments.  Your rhythmic inventiveness rules but personally I'd love to hear you become more harmonically bold and perhaps also melodically.  LIke...what would skyhawk sound like PLUS  more harmony changes?   That is to say---don't change who you are musically just ADD more stuff to it  in your own way  if that makes sense.  skyhawk++

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #5 on: July 19, 2006, 09:52:33 AM
I hear you playing much with rhythm here.  Parts of it seem kind of like folk dances / tunes, something like what Bartok would have done. 

My suggestion would be to try and explore more the range of the piano.  You can achieve implications of accents, and changes in timbre.  Also don't be afraid to isolate some passages within a narrow range in the piano. 

Have you explored chord clusters and elbow / fist / forearm playing?  I find such can be  used as effects in such rhythmic music - kind of like simulating percussion insturments.  Also if you have access to an accoustic piano, plucking the strings can also produce more rhythmic effects. 

Good stuff
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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #6 on: July 19, 2006, 03:56:48 PM
Welp I've put it on...really enjoying it so far....

okay some additional comments.  Your rhythmic inventiveness rules but personally I'd love to hear you become more harmonically bold and perhaps also melodically.  LIke...what would skyhawk sound like PLUS  more harmony changes?   That is to say---don't change who you are musically just ADD more stuff to it  in your own way  if that makes sense.  skyhawk++
I get ya.  :)
I was mainly trying to stay in octave changes than anything else to try to express the rhythm, so the left hand wasn't really doing anything that interesting. Sure, since I'm trying to get ahold of more of a harmonic structure with better melody, I think I'll try that. Thanks.  :)

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 04:01:58 PM
I hear you playing much with rhythm here.  Parts of it seem kind of like folk dances / tunes, something like what Bartok would have done. 

My suggestion would be to try and explore more the range of the piano.  You can achieve implications of accents, and changes in timbre.  Also don't be afraid to isolate some passages within a narrow range in the piano. 

Have you explored chord clusters and elbow / fist / forearm playing?  I find such can be  used as effects in such rhythmic music - kind of like simulating percussion insturments.  Also if you have access to an accoustic piano, plucking the strings can also produce more rhythmic effects. 

Good stuff
Actually, I was using my fist at some point during that to let out more on the right hand. I think it was at the 9:00 point somewhere where I switch to fast changes between left and right. That's one of the many spots in this that I want to expand on and try to create into a sonata or concerto, something like that. Also, there's a scale that I kind of fell in love with, even if it's awkard, I'll get to that some other time when I do another attempt.

Also, I put in an easter egg at some point in the music for Prokofiev.  :D

I'll try the elbow thing though, sounds fun.

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 06:00:39 PM
quantum, you're a weirdo  ;D   though, actually lately I have been indulging in a lot of atonal playing....not involving my fist yet but definitely all five fingers alternating between white notes and black notes for example....deliberate atonal playing is actually very fun, it can sound very wicked.  especially with crazygonuts asymmetric rhythms and so forth..skyhawk you should try that...haha (atonal harmonies + your rhythmic ability)

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Re: The Tempest (Improvisation)
Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 09:59:24 PM
quantum, you're a weirdo  ;D   though, actually lately I have been indulging in a lot of atonal playing....not involving my fist yet but definitely all five fingers alternating between white notes and black notes for example....deliberate atonal playing is actually very fun, it can sound very wicked.  especially with crazygonuts asymmetric rhythms and so forth..skyhawk you should try that...haha (atonal harmonies + your rhythmic ability)

In my first week in universiy, one of my music profs introduces course content as: "in this class you will learn to be eccentric".   I guess this is what I get for taking up music as a degree  ::)

skyhawk, I agree with Derek in that your inginuity in rhythym combined with some adventurous atonality could produce some very wikid music.
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