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preview of speed in praylude XXI
on: February 11, 2007, 03:56:43 PM
i spell it 'praylude' because opus10no2 is going to have to pray that he beats me.

this is sightreading speed.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 04:31:23 PM
here's the piece dannyelfboy says we should do to make things even.  have you played it before? (rachmaninov prelude op 23 #2)  i have not. here's my lh.  sightreading.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 05:09:49 PM
here's more.  watch out.  this one is hard.  i think it's going to be slower than the rest - but faster than yours - unless you've played it before. 

dannyelfboy - i'll keep practicing it - but why don't you play it? ok.  that way we'll hear what it's supposed to sound like.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #3 on: February 11, 2007, 07:14:08 PM
Oh, now I understand your tactics, pianistimo:

I hear Kaa, the snake, singing "trust in me"...    :D
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #4 on: February 11, 2007, 07:44:52 PM
who's kaa the snake?  i pray to the one true God - not some snake over in a corner pretending to be mean.

ps i'm 45 - and i'm going to play faster than opus10no2 - but i don't know his age.

here's my theme and variations.  this is only day one remember. 

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #5 on: February 11, 2007, 08:11:46 PM
who's kaa the snake? 

I'm sure, you know the Disney cartoon film "Jungle Book"...
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #6 on: February 11, 2007, 08:50:59 PM
oh.  he's harmless.

here's a better version of the prelude - but still not right yet.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #7 on: February 11, 2007, 09:24:46 PM
Pianistimo, don't you be aware, how silly this "I can play faster than you" is?

Without any doubt, you can play much more beautiful than "Comme", but if it's about stop watch, he will win. Anyhow ugly he plays and how many mistakes he makes.

This match is completely weird!
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #8 on: February 11, 2007, 09:42:59 PM
i don't know what gets into me.  perhaps i was imagining a sort of 'goliath' figure - and want to knock him in the head with my speed.  but, as you say - it won't be my speed.  oh well.  but, anyways - did you listen to my last take on the prelude.

now, on to the chopin etude with thirds.  ugh.  i've never played this mind you.  the things that are getting thrown at me.  now, if i play this etude - then opus10no2 has to choose between the paganini variations, or waldstein - just so i know he can handle runs of sixths.

all is fair in love and war.  this is mostly sort of inbetween.  look.  i have maybe a couple of people rooting for me.  i'm not even sure if thal is on my side.  he wanted me to quit.  ?  what kind of wierd thing is that.  i'd rather die than quit.  i want to die at the piano someday. 

ps won't it be funny if comme is also 45.  btw, i will also post the op 10 #4.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #9 on: February 11, 2007, 10:03:05 PM

 did you listen to my last take on the prelude.



Please believe me, it doesn't matter to me, if you play the Bach Praeludium with
quarters 100, 150 or 200. It's not the speed, that makes the music.
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #10 on: February 11, 2007, 10:16:25 PM
i've not passed the threshold for speed have i, at 45?  i mean - i can still get faster.  that's what i want to prove.  i think if i practiced this until friday - i could have it at 76= quarter.  can you play it at 100?  must everyone be faster than me?  this reminds me of the bike trail.  but, hey - i pass them all when they're taking water breaks.  i just keep going.  once i pursued a jersey that said 'postal' on it for a mile.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #11 on: February 11, 2007, 10:44:30 PM
i've not passed the threshold for speed have i, at 45?  i mean - i can still get faster.  that's what i want to prove.  i think if i practiced this until friday - i could have it at 76= quarter.  can you play it at 100?  must everyone be faster than me?  this reminds me of the bike trail.  but, hey - i pass them all when they're taking water breaks.  i just keep going.  once i pursued a jersey that said 'postal' on it for a mile.


Pianistimo, please cool down. It's way fast enough!
You play about quarters 150-160, that's very fast. No need to play faster.
Perhaps I would play it at quarters 120.  So you are much faster than I would play it.
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #12 on: February 11, 2007, 10:48:58 PM
ok.  i will cool off.  after all...bach didn't really write any tempo in at all, right?!  who knows - we could be playing it too fast.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #13 on: February 11, 2007, 10:53:13 PM
no.  that's eighths.  good grief.  what was bach trying to do?

Okay, my error, all metronome numbers I have written are for eighth notes of course!
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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #14 on: February 12, 2007, 01:13:16 AM
ps i'm 45
Bearing in mind that I cannot listen to what you've posted because I don't happen to have the facility to do so, what do you mean by "45"? Quarter note = 45? Or is "45" your waist measurement in centimetres?

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #15 on: February 12, 2007, 01:38:23 AM
alistair, you're only slightly older than moi (or is it younger?) and you can't hear?  at least i have an excuse.  my casio - which only records audibly at the highest setting.  so, i put the earphones around my neck and hope for the best. 

let me go measure my waist.  certainly not in centimeters.  ok 32 inches.  i don't want to hear 81 1/2 centimeters. 

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #16 on: February 12, 2007, 04:18:10 AM
This is how the prelude should sound
rach.mp
I don't have access to a computer, mic, stereo whatever in the room where my piano is

Pianistimo I'm betting on you.
You MUST win
I don't care if the match is silly and pointless ... if this is the only way we can get rid of opus10no2 ignorant presumption and idiocy ... so be it

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #17 on: February 12, 2007, 06:16:15 PM
danny elfboy, if nothing else, i have immensely enjoyed learning this piece to a satisfactory sightreading place.  it reminds me, somehow, of 'my God, how great thou art' with some of the chords - and very very beautifully done.  rachmaninov wasn't making a paraphrase of it was he?

anyways - you can take this piece a duplicity of ways.  it can also sound very sensual or bold. it's just how you play it.  i LOVE the harmonies.

what do you know about this piece that you can share?  it's really nice!  (mine isn't that fast yet - but i was relieved on the fourth page or so to see the 'return' of the A section).

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #18 on: February 12, 2007, 07:05:28 PM
what do you mean by "45"? Quarter note = 45? Or is "45" your waist measurement in centimetres?


No, its her IQ.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #19 on: February 12, 2007, 07:11:26 PM
i suppose you can prove that?  must i defend my age AND my brain?

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #20 on: February 12, 2007, 08:15:57 PM
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

I thought it was lower.

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Re: preview of speed in praylude XXI
Reply #21 on: February 12, 2007, 08:23:09 PM
my age is much lower in terms of looks.  but my energy and brain function work together.  they slump around 3:00 pm.
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