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Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
on: March 31, 2007, 10:07:19 AM
This is an improvisation from today. The melody (it might differ a tiny bit from the original melody) is taken from Chimes which I heard years ago in Montferrier, Southern France. This melody is often sung by catholic pilgrims and though it's not exactly the Ave Maria these words appear in the song at the end. Unfortuately I don't know the name of the song. Anyway, since that region of France was the region of the Cathars, heretics which have been prosecuted, killed and tortured by the inquisition in 13th century this improvisation alienates the song very much.

Another part of a long journey :P As always I hope you will like it :)



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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #1 on: March 31, 2007, 08:07:33 PM
i like your chimes improv very much.  can i think about the waldensians, too?  i mean the cathars were a bit much - if what they supposedly believed was actually the correct accusation.  something about being reincarnated.  now, if they actually believed in the ressurrection of the dead and that this world is nothing like the world to come - then it would be a sort of mis-placed accusation to say that they thought the 'god of this world' actually CREATED this world.  he's just the god of it.  also, i don't think they believed in reincarnation per se.  but, the ressurrection.  why would the catholic church kill karmasts?  how can we know - if they died - what they really believed?

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #2 on: March 31, 2007, 09:00:49 PM
i like your chimes improv very much.  can i think about the waldensians, too?  i mean the cathars were a bit much - if what they supposedly believed was actually the correct accusation.  something about being reincarnated.  now, if they actually believed in the ressurrection of the dead and that this world is nothing like the world to come - then it would be a sort of mis-placed accusation to say that they thought the 'god of this world' actually CREATED this world.  he's just the god of it.  also, i don't think they believed in reincarnation per se.  but, the ressurrection.  why would the catholic church kill karmasts?  how can we know - if they died - what they really believed?

Well since I promised not to enter religious discussions anymore I can't comment too much on this. I am glad you liked it. As far as I know the Waldensians were the same group as the Cathars. Just a different name. But that's anyway not what my improv is about. I just play what I feel and my experiences and thoughts are flowing into it. I have heard this beautiful melody years ago and it has worked for years in myself. And now I rediscovered something special deep inside of me which comes together with this melody and with some thoughts- et voilà... that's the result. It's anyway about music after all. About a musical view of the world so to say. Which I always had. :)

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #3 on: April 01, 2007, 12:22:52 AM
Beautiful. Added.  :)

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #4 on: June 07, 2009, 01:35:15 PM
This piece is now part of my program "Centuries". I have recently been at this place again and took some pictures. Now I have made a video:



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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #5 on: June 07, 2009, 05:10:35 PM
Wolfi,   I can truly feel what this improv is portraying in your post.  Started out with a peaceful rendition of chimes as it goes on into the persecution when the notes clashed together, an entirely different feeling there, and then I love how your improv ended.....the chimes in the distance.....very nice improv.  You put a lot of thought into your improvs.
 thanks for sharing.   :)

best wishes,

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #6 on: June 07, 2009, 07:01:09 PM
Loved this, The pictures on the video were great aswell, they really went well with the piano, another good improv here

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #7 on: June 07, 2009, 07:46:56 PM
Thank you both :)

it's interesting how much some thoughts and feelings, born years ago at a very (but literally *very*) secret hidden place inside of myself, are growing and developing and then even find resonance in other individuals :)

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #8 on: June 07, 2009, 09:41:19 PM
Wonderful.  Liked that very much.  Were those rythmical stutterings, so to speak, intended?  Very much the way the bells never really succeed in perfect synchronization.  I hear this melody every morning at 7:00 from the village above.  You made much more out of it then I could ever imagine!

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #9 on: June 07, 2009, 11:07:44 PM
Wonderful.  Liked that very much.  Were those rythmical stutterings, so to speak, intended?  Very much the way the bells never really succeed in perfect synchronization.  I hear this melody every morning at 7:00 from the village above.  You made much more out of it then I could ever imagine!

Wow you hear that every morning, incredible, I didn't think I would meet somebody here who knows it :). do you live in Italy? I have heard it in France and Italy so far.

Yeah these stutterings are part of the piece :)

Thank you for the compliments :)

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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #10 on: June 08, 2009, 07:16:50 AM
I had never heard this, Wolfi.  Great as always. :)
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Re: Chimes (Ave Maria) Improvisation
Reply #11 on: June 08, 2009, 11:49:52 AM
Wow you hear that every morning, incredible, I didn't think I would meet somebody here who knows it :). do you live in Italy? I have heard it in France and Italy so far.

Yes, I live outside a small village about 50 miles north of Rome.  It's an ave maria folk tune.
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