Sunrise 2-Improv

[pianowolfi]

Well actually I don't really know what I am doing here....it is a feelig and playing out of fathomless depths. My first "Sunrise" can be found here

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,22569.0.html

And this one is definitely completely different.

 

[arensky]

Well do any of us really know what we're doing?   

Only Bach, perhaps.

I enjoyed this. Nice modal improv, I particularly like the part where it suddenly veered towards Db, that created an interesting effect. And the Scriabin/Jazz at the end; reminded me of the Moody Blues. I assume you were watching the sun come up. I'll listen to the other sunrise soon.

                                                                       

[pianowolfi]

Thank you arensky, yes I admit Scriabin's influence. I feel very much related to his approach, and some of his motifs are occasionally slipping into my improvisations. Btw another composer I am similarly fascinated by is Frank Martin. Moody Blues though I need first to listen to.

Yes your assumption is right I watched the sunset, a very special one actually, and I tried to catch the lucidity and sharpness, while in the older sunrise improv the approach was more soulish, describing the reaction of a person who realises that there IS another sunrise after a desparate and endless seeming night.

[pianowolfi]

I assume you were watching the sun come up.
                                                          

Yes I was. And now I finally managed to get some of the original videos and pictures from that very morning together with the music. It may also shed a bit of light on my way to "hear" music somewhere, like in the nature, or as in this case, being in a certain state of mind + being in the nature. It is not actually program music, it is something I hear or feel inside and then try to express on the instrument.

[littletune]

Hi Wolfi! Your improvisations are cool  of course  And the videos and pictures are really cool and beautiful too!
You know that exactly that day when you posted this (October 13th) just a little earlier, I recorded my "improvisation"  that's kinda like about things from the nature too... except maybe it's more like a sunset  I'm not sure.... 
Wolfi.... would you mind if I posted it here...  and you don't have to say that you don't mind just to be nice! I mean I would be too embarrassed to make a new thread about one stupid little not even a real improvisation from me    Well maybe I can just put it on youtube    So really don't worry I understand if you don't want some weird "improvisation" on your thread.     

[m1469]

Yes I was. And now I finally managed to get some of the original videos and pictures from that very morning together with the music. It may also shed a bit of light on my way to "hear" music somewhere, like in the nature, or as in this case, being in a certain state of mind + being in the nature. It is not actually program music, it is something I hear or feel inside and then try to express on the instrument.

I feel that I can understand your ideas (in text) here, as I understand that even music which describes an experience is not necessarily "program music".  Thank you so much for posting this.  I am amazed at the work you have done and your sense of "owning" now what you do.  I like it .  Can you know at the moment that another name for me is "Sunni" ?  When I first started listening and watching, my whole system stirred and got dizzy and shifted to the world of your music, and then adjusted.  I think your musical thoughts are very fitting.  For some reason, every time I saw the road, it made me nervous and nearly even scared.  When I was in University, I met a modern composer who used all tape -- all sounds from nature, strung and fitted together to create music.  It stirred me very much, as one of my favorite activities in life is to sit and just listen to the world, to feel its pulse and to feel its sense of inner/outer workings.  However, I got the distinct feeling that I was the only individual so stirred by this composer's work, and that is strange to me.  I definitely have the idea to include sounds from nature, from life and such.  It's something like photography itself.

I hope you enjoy life in your world today/this evening .

[pianowolfi]

Hi Wolfi! Your improvisations are cool  of course  And the videos and pictures are really cool and beautiful too!
You know that exactly that day when you posted this (October 13th) just a little earlier, I recorded my "improvisation"  that's kinda like about things from the nature too... except maybe it's more like a sunset  I'm not sure.... 
Wolfi.... would you mind if I posted it here...  and you don't have to say that you don't mind just to be nice! I mean I would be too embarrassed to make a new thread about one stupid little not even a real improvisation from me    Well maybe I can just put it on youtube    So really don't worry I understand if you don't want some weird "improvisation" on your thread.     

Hi littletune, thank you just do it as you wish, you can post it here or open another thread, I'm looking forward to your improv

[pianowolfi]

I feel that I can understand your ideas (in text) here, as I understand that even music which describes an experience is not necessarily "program music".  Thank you so much for posting this.  I am amazed at the work you have done and your sense of "owning" now what you do.  I like it .  Can you know at the moment that another name for me is "Sunni" ?  When I first started listening and watching, my whole system stirred and got dizzy and shifted to the world of your music, and then adjusted.  I think your musical thoughts are very fitting.  For some reason, every time I saw the road, it made me nervous and nearly even scared.  When I was in University, I met a modern composer who used all tape -- all sounds from nature, strung and fitted together to create music.  It stirred me very much, as one of my favorite activities in life is to sit and just listen to the world, to feel its pulse and to feel its sense of inner/outer workings.  However, I got the distinct feeling that I was the only individual so stirred by this composer's work, and that is strange to me.  I definitely have the idea to include sounds from nature, from life and such.  It's something like photography itself.

I hope you enjoy life in your world today/this evening .

Hi m1469

I think Sunni is true As it is true that you can be somewhere and feel people and people can somehow feel you. That is nothing like an ego trip or so, it is a reality that you (or me or other people) may encounter on their path. A pure spiritual concept

When I first encountered perceptions and concepts like this I got all excited and fascinated. And it's still like this, of course.
But I have also learned to deal with it almost as a part of my daily life, like you say, "adjusted" in a sort of way. The "daily miracle" Because if I hadn't learned to "deal with it" it would have brought me seriously out of balance. Well, it's a process after all, a process that I like

The fact that this road in the video scared you in some way makes me feel like you are responding to a thought I had about it:

That road leads very steeply up into nature and the mountains, but on the other side steeply down towards urban life, towards the city. And I admit that I often feel more attracted by that way steep up into nature and mountains Anyway, I felt like being on a border between life and death, that morning. And from this point of view I could see so many things!! So many things that make life incredible!! Incredibly unique, worth to live, just amazing, awesome, miracoulous... There was nothing scary about life and nothing scary about death either. Just floating on this border

well, words on a screen can't really express all that appropriately...

Yes I enjoy my life in this world, in my world, this evening

[m1469]

Hi m1469

I think Sunni is true As it is true that you can be somewhere and feel people and people can somehow feel you. That is nothing like an ego trip or so, it is a reality that you (or me or other people) may encounter on their path. A pure spiritual concept

When I first encountered perceptions and concepts like this I got all excited and fascinated. And it's still like this, of course.
But I have also learned to deal with it almost as a part of my daily life, like you say, "adjusted" in a sort of way. The "daily miracle" Because if I hadn't learned to "deal with it" it would have brought me seriously out of balance. Well, it's a process after all, a process that I like

The fact that this road in the video scared you in some way makes me feel like you are responding to a thought I had about it:

That road leads very steeply up into nature and the mountains, but on the other side steeply down towards urban life, towards the city. And I admit that I often feel more attracted by that way steep up into nature and mountains Anyway, I felt like being on a border between life and death, that morning. And from this point of view I could see so many things!! So many things that make life incredible!! Incredibly unique, worth to live, just amazing, awesome, miracoulous... There was nothing scary about life and nothing scary about death either. Just floating on this border

well, words on a screen can't really express all that appropriately...

Yes I enjoy my life in this world, in my world, this evening

Hi .  Okay, I have to clarify though, my other name is Sunni like Sunny, but with an 'i' instead of a 'y' ... similarly to K .  Maybe I should change that though as I just looked it up and realized that it's spelled ths same as the spiritual person.  That's not what I mean nor where the name came from.  However, yes, I believe that all people can actually feel each other in the world.  All people.

You telling that you have learned to deal with perceptions about life is comforting, as the past few days have been extremely vivid and nearly scary for me, as I am coming to deal with new perspectives myself.  It is always a bit disconcerting and while I was hoping this wave would be gentle, and I can't say that it wasn't, it took great mental discipline and stamina to not let myself drift out of balance.  Afterall, I realized, no matter what we are doing in life, at the bottom line, I think there is ultimately only one activity and realization taking place.  And, for me, love is absolutely necessary to maintain balance.  If I am scared of whatever I am "seeing", and if that scale begins to tip, I have to fill myself only with Love, for individuals in my life, for life itself, for everything and everyone I can possibly think of.

[pianowolfi]

Yes, Sunni it's true either way. I didn't relate to whichever spiritual person (I would have to look it up myself)

And well, yes of course!

[littletune]

Hi littletune, thank you just do it as you wish, you can post it here or open another thread, I'm looking forward to your improv

Thanks Wolfi! I think you're too nice I mean I don't think my improvisation is a real improvisation cause I can't make improvisations      I was just playing.... And usually I just keep playing for a really long time so my "improvisations" are all so long that I don't even listen to all of them but this time my mum came into my room and I stopped so it's only 1 minute long so I thought that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if I posted it...  but now I'm kinda scared to  oh well... I guess I'll post it anyway... now that I said I would.... 

[littletune]

Ok this is my "improvisation"  It's really quiet, because I was holding the middle pedal all the time, so it wouldn't be too loud (I always do that when I play my "improvisations" so my neighbours wouldn't go crazy).  And then at the end my mum came in so I stopped. So it's only 1 minute long. Well so here 

[pianowolfi]

Ok this is my "improvisation"   It's really quiet, because I was holding the middle pedal all the time, so it wouldn't be too loud (I always do that when I play my "improvisations" so my neighbours wouldn't go crazy).   And then at the end my mum came in so I stopped. So it's only 1 minute long. Well so here  

That's such a good start Just don't be shy! I hope it's the beginning of a long joyful journey of improvisation for you
Really I wish that more of my students were into it, they are often so shy at improvising, and it's not easy to encourage them.

[pianowolfi]

You telling that you have learned to deal with perceptions about life is comforting, as the past few days have been extremely vivid and nearly scary for me, as I am coming to deal with new perspectives myself.  It is always a bit disconcerting and while I was hoping this wave would be gentle, and I can't say that it wasn't, it took great mental discipline and stamina to not let myself drift out of balance.  Afterall, I realized, no matter what we are doing in life, at the bottom line, I think there is ultimately only one activity and realization taking place.  And, for me, love is absolutely necessary to maintain balance.  If I am scared of whatever I am "seeing", and if that scale begins to tip, I have to fill myself only with Love, for individuals in my life, for life itself, for everything and everyone I can possibly think of.

Yes of course you are right.

And, of course, it's a difference if you encounter these new perspectives right now or if you think, like I did in the above mentioned context of "sunrise" about things that appeared in my life years ago and had time to sink in, to be turned round and round in my soul and so on.

Current changes and challenges are one entirely different thing to manage!

And I very much hope that things for you indeed become more like gentle waves!

*sends gentle wave to m1469*

[m1469]

Okay, well, I was mainly relating to you with an experience of my own.  I guess I don't know what I am right about  .  It's just that sometimes I am exploding inside and it's like my body will barely hold me in.  And, sometimes my concept of life gets so ... strange and everything around me seems so strange and foreign, and sometimes I get scared it will stay that way forever.  But, I have to remind myself that it won't and it doesn't.  And, as far as I can tell, it happens when I am gaining perhaps new insight into life, or when an idea from a few weeks ago or so is settling in.  It can be very uncomfortable at times and I can't say that I particularly enjoy it.  Anyway, there is more to it, way more, but I do see what you mean regarding differing circumstances of dealing with matters.  I don't know that things will become ever fully gentle waves or not and so I am needing to learn to deal with what it is and possibly more, even.  One reason I play the piano.  Actually, some music has indeed come from it, though it's just some parts for now.  Most likely, I need just desparately to go into nature and to follow that road into the hills . 

[littletune]

That's such a good start Just don't be shy! I hope it's the beginning of a long joyful journey of improvisation for you
Really I wish that more of my students were into it, they are often so shy at improvising, and it's not easy to encourage them.

Thanks Wolfi! Well I'm shy too  I mean when I think someone is listening to me  When I think noone hears me then I feel better and I just play something whatever I wanna play and I don't care if it's stupid  I really wish I could get better and learn improvisation but I'm not sure if I will    I'm not sure how I should learn that  well we'll see I guess 

[m1469]

Ok this is my "improvisation"   It's really quiet, because I was holding the middle pedal all the time, so it wouldn't be too loud (I always do that when I play my "improvisations" so my neighbours wouldn't go crazy).   And then at the end my mum came in so I stopped. So it's only 1 minute long. Well so here  

Hi Littletune,

I will borrow Wolfi's thread for a moment to comment on your improv.  You know what I hear?  A big heart, good ears, and a nice sense for sonority!  It will be fun to hear more sometime .

[chopinatic]

Wolfi : Great as always, i can definatly hear the scraibin influence. I always get a strange feeling when i listen to your improvisations, calm, but yet intruiged, hard to explain, but in my opinion thats what music is about, Emotions and the unexplainable in words
thanks for posting  

[chopinatic]

Little tune:

Please post more improvisations, dont be shy! its all about expressing yourself, so who cares how it comes out right? I think you showed great potential and emotivness in your improv. Keep it up
chopinatic

[littletune]

Hi Littletune,

I will borrow Wolfi's thread for a moment to comment on your improv.  You know what I hear?  A big heart, good ears, and a nice sense for sonority!  It will be fun to hear more sometime .

Thank you m1469!!! I saw this just now!! I don't know how I missed it! I'm really glad you think that!!!      Thank you very much!!   

Little tune:

Please post more improvisations, dont be shy! its all about expressing yourself, so who cares how it comes out right? I think you showed great potential and emotivness in your improv. Keep it up
chopinatic

Thank you very much Chopinatic!! I will post more I'm always sooo embarrassed but I will post it anyway!     

[pianowolfi]

Thank you m1469!!! I saw this just now!! I don't know how I missed it! I'm really glad you think that!!!      Thank you very much!!   

Thank you very much Chopinatic!! I will post more I'm always sooo embarrassed but I will post it anyway!     

[pianowolfi]

Wolfi : Great as always, i can definatly hear the scraibin influence. I always get a strange feeling when i listen to your improvisations, calm, but yet intruiged, hard to explain, but in my opinion thats what music is about, Emotions and the unexplainable in words
thanks for posting  

Hi Chopinatic, thank you!  

Yeah these words actually describe very much of what I intend to do