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Topic: Beethoven-Pathetique 2nd Movmnt  (Read 2899 times)

Offline instromp

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Beethoven-Pathetique 2nd Movmnt
on: May 09, 2007, 12:35:54 AM
first take at recording

Been playing  this for 3 months

When i played for a judicator at a county piano festival for grading i recieved an 'A' but when i record i can never play it how i want,I tend to tense a lot and cant actually pay attention to what im doing.

Around 1:45+ u may hear a car pass by, my window was open
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Re: Beethoven-Pathetique 2nd Movmnt
Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 04:58:39 PM
'A' but when i record i can never play it how i want,I tend to tense a lot and cant actually pay attention to what im doing.



 Good start,

  To play how you want, one needs to study the piece away from the piano, for this particular MVT, i find that really separating the parts ( three parts generally speaking) into three distinct dynamic range makes this adagio sound a lot better.The difficulty statrs when one has to really bring out the melody using only finger work ( no pedal).  I feel that the bass notes have more significance if it is brought out and above the " mid section", the arppegio.
         Good luck. :)
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Re: Beethoven-Pathetique 2nd Movmnt
Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 06:09:36 PM
Hi instromp,

zheer gives you some good advice, particularly on dynamically layering the different voices.  This is a more sophisticated step beyond simply balancing the hands.  If you study the form, away from the piano as zheer suggests, you'll find that this middle movement actually is very similar to a string quartet, and takes on that characteristic in the playing.  So you have to think instrumentally rather than pianistically in rendering this piece.   Right now, you have the notes down for the most part, but there is, at the moment, more focus on articulation more than anything else.  That needs to shift to producing a long, singing line--often representing the violin.  But occasionally the viola or cello takes over, and comes to the foreground while the violin retreats to the background for a bit.  So you need to work at producing a rich, adagio, legato, cantabile sound, where the melody is always clearly etched, while accompaniment is background only.  I agree with zheer too that often the bass becomes important in supplying a moving harmony.  In part B of the movement, there is some excitement, but otherwise, this is a gently flowing string quartet. 

There are moments when you can make some nice melodic nuances, and I would encourage you to consider doing so.  These are done by using very careful and judicious rubatos in good taste.  Bear in mind, though, this sonata is early-period Beethoven.  He was indeed a precusor composer of the Romantic Era, but much more so in his late period.  So you cannot exaggerate any rubato effects here.  This is not Chopin.  I hope this helps.
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