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[loonbohol]

My worst Problem.

I can't fit any lyrics on the composition that I  compose.
So I have a question.
Does the composition courses have literature lessons?
What should be made first, The song or lyrics?
How do I make myself more poetic?

And of all the forums that I ever constructed.
Nobody ever Answered this requests.

Give me Drum notations of Pop and examples of Drum beats.
How to add Guitar chords to MIDI.

How Do I form a Band?
My band would be composed of A Violinist, A cellist ,A drummer ,A rock guitarist, A trombonist ,A Keyboardist, A vocalist.
What type of band is that.

[Bob]

Maybe start like anything else -- Just start.  And study lyrics of another lyricist.  Get the printed music and words.  Adn there must be books on it.  I've run across some things about lyrics before I'm remembering.  Maybe there would be good info in a study about the lyrics of a piece.

For a band, just advertise and ask people.  It might be trickier to find the string players though I would imagine. You need to know what kind of band you want to make.

[db05]

Does the composition courses have literature lessons?
What should be made first, The song or lyrics?
How do I make myself more poetic?

Give me Drum notations of Pop and examples of Drum beats.
How to add Guitar chords to MIDI.

How Do I form a Band?
My band would be composed of A Violinist, A cellist ,A drummer ,A rock guitarist, A trombonist ,A Keyboardist, A vocalist.
What type of band is that.

I don't know.
Whichever comes easier.
Read a lot. Listen to songs. In my experience, poetry is usually more on inspiration, and can't be controlled. BUT the vocabulary used, grammar and analogies have to come from somewhere or else they're too weird. You can make your own analogies, but there's a chance no one will understand.  So that takes practice.

Can only find drum tabs. And very few. Like this for example:
https://www.mxtabs.net/view/tab/43131/linkin_park/in_the_end/
Sp - splash cymbal
C - crash cymbal
H - hi-hat
S - snare
t1 and t2 - toms
Tb - I don't know this one
B - bass

I don't know how to add whole chords, because there are different ways to spell a chord. All I know is to notate one by one and then type the chord name on top.

Auditions. Probably harder than anything. You should consider joining a band yourself (keyboardist), better chance of that happening than the other way around.

"Rock band" would be a safe, umbrella term. But from the choice of instruments, could also be jazz fusion, depending on the type of music you play.

[scottmcc]

lyrics are sometimes written first, sometimes written after the fact, and sometimes written at the same time.  some people write nothing but the lyrics, and have the rest of their band write the instrumental parts, others write it all.  take a course in poetry if you want to become more poetic.  or...just "borrow" a bunch of bob dylan songs.  it worked for jimi hendrix...

listen to the beatles song "rock and roll music" (ok, it was originally by chuck berry, but that's beside the point).  the line about it having a backbeat, you can't lose it...that's the thing you're looking for in a pop beat.  basically, if something is written in 4/4, you want the 4 numbered beats marked with a drum of some sort, and the four & beats marked with a cymbal.  1 drum, & cymbal, 2 drum, & cymbal, 3 drum, & cymbal, 4 drum, & cymbal.  poof.  you are now ringo starr.  any other drumming can be based around this skeleton.  better yet, find a drummer friend, ask them to help you write something.  turns out that some of them actually know more about percussion than non drummers.  (who knew?)

ask musician friends if they would like to be in your band.  go to local bars/clubs/etc and post a flyer. 

if you are forming a rock band, you should begin with a power trio: guitar, drums, bass.  all else can be added on top of that, or people can serve double functions.  but without the power trio, you're not a real band (the doors excepted).

the "band" you describe seems like some sort of eclectic chamber monstrosity.  hmmm...that's a good name for a band--feel free to use it.

[loonbohol]

What is ecletic

[quantum]

I can't fit any lyrics on the composition that I  compose.
So I have a question.
Does the composition courses have literature lessons?
What should be made first, The song or lyrics?
How do I make myself more poetic?

Look at the scores for a lot of songs.   Ones with multiple verses would be better.  See how the composer's solutions for fitting multiple verses within the basic melody.

Hymns are probably a good thing to study.  Many hymnals will list the metre of the text as well have a metrical index in the back.  With hymns, it is very common to mix and match tunes and text - as long as they belong to the same metre.  This will give you a good examples as to joining text and melody.

[db05]

My band would be composed of A Violinist, A cellist ,A drummer ,A rock guitarist, A trombonist ,A Keyboardist, A vocalist.
What type of band is that.

Sounds like The Corrs, but with a few more players. Come to think of it, that may be a good place to start to study songwriting. They're not too witty, the music is not complicated, but the songs aren't bad. 

I might be totally wrong, but is it possible that you have good ears (with pitches) but poor in rhythm? Poetry and music are both driven by rhythm, that's why they're so alike. Try writing rhythm patterns, reading and clapping them. You don't have to be very good at drum notation (or even guitar) to compose for band, btw. A piece of paper with lyrics + chord progression would be enough. A band usually work together, and add their own little details later.

What is ecletic

From dictionary.com:
ec.lec.tic
–adjective
1.   selecting or choosing from various sources.
2.   made up of what is selected from different sources.
3.   not following any one system, as of philosophy, medicine, etc., but selecting and using what are considered the best elements of all systems.
4.   noting or pertaining to works of architecture, decoration, landscaping, etc., produced by a certain person or during a certain period, that derive from a wide range of historic styles, the style in each instance often being chosen for its fancied appropriateness to local tradition, local geography, the purpose to be served, or the cultural background of the client.


PS. Would love to work with you if ever you're in the Metro Manila area. 

[loonbohol]

Sounds like The Corrs, but with a few more players. Come to think of it, that may be a good place to start to study songwriting. They're not too witty, the music is not complicated, but the songs aren't bad. 

I might be totally wrong, but is it possible that you have good ears (with pitches) but poor in rhythm? Poetry and music are both driven by rhythm, that's why they're so alike. Try writing rhythm patterns, reading and clapping them. You don't have to be very good at drum notation (or even guitar) to compose for band, btw. A piece of paper with lyrics + chord progression would be enough. A band usually work together, and add their own little details later.
From dictionary.com:
ec.lec.tic
–adjective
1.   selecting or choosing from various sources.
2.   made up of what is selected from different sources.
3.   not following any one system, as of philosophy, medicine, etc., but selecting and using what are considered the best elements of all systems.
4.   noting or pertaining to works of architecture, decoration, landscaping, etc., produced by a certain person or during a certain period, that derive from a wide range of historic styles, the style in each instance often being chosen for its fancied appropriateness to local tradition, local geography, the purpose to be served, or the cultural background of the client.


PS. Would love to work with you if ever you're in the Metro Manila area. 

HOw do you know that I love the CORRS.

By the way, After making a band what to do?
What will be the first performance be.
Where will I perform?
That is the question.

[db05]

HOw do you know that I love the CORRS.

By the way, After making a band what to do?
What will be the first performance be.
Where will I perform?
That is the question.

Really? I just guessed.
Usually you go barhopping - applying/ auditioning. If you get through, you get to perform there.

[renatog]

My worst Problem.

I can't fit any lyrics on the composition that I  compose.
So I have a question.
Does the composition courses have literature lessons?
What should be made first, The song or lyrics?
How do I make myself more poetic?

That, my friend, is like the eternal question: Which came first, the chicken or the egg?  hehe
Like scottmc said, it really depends on the composition on which came first.  One day you may be inspired by a melody that popped up in your head, and you ended up writing the main melody of the song, and added lyrics.  Or you thought of a really nice line that would fit well in music.  One of the exercises that I did at songwriting class (one time, at band camp LOL) was that we were required to create 5 song titles every week.  Sounds trivial, but they can prove to be important one day. I still look back and they actually give me ideas.

You should also analyze songs.  Look at the time signature, tempo, rhythm, song strucutre, etc.  There are many different types of song structure, and can drive you crazy when asking yourself "what type of song structure should I write???".  There's the "verse song" (most of Lionel Richie's are), then the Verse-Chorus song, and also those that don't conform to these (I'm sure I didn't list them all so have fun with Google).
As for being poetic, read poems .  They can provide you with ways on how you can write your lyrics, and make them sound "poetic".

And of all the forums that I ever constructed.
Nobody ever Answered this requests.

Give me Drum notations of Pop and examples of Drum beats.
How to add Guitar chords to MIDI.

Drum notations, that's a hard one.  You can find lyrics, chords, and sheet music (best source is your local Guitar Center/Sam Ash stores).  If you listen to pop music, you can imitate the rhythms.  Listen to a variety of music too.  You will find that a lot of pop music nowadays have influence from many different cultures (African, Asian, Hispanic/Latin, etc)

As for MIDI, you can invest in a MIDI keyboard to play your chords to a computer software.  I believe there is a guitar that can input MIDI signals but, it's very hard to emulate the real thing.  I would start with just chords, then notate what position you want that chord played on the guitar (look up guitar tabs, and how to write them).  There a lot of MIDI programs out there, PM me and I can give you some pointers on recording software, etc.

How Do I form a Band?
My band would be composed of A Violinist, A cellist ,A drummer ,A rock guitarist, A trombonist ,A Keyboardist, A vocalist.
What type of band is that.

Networking is the best way.  Some folks here have already provided suggestions such as local bars, your own school, etc.  I found that working with other students can be very rewarding since you share the same goals.  Look up "Open Mic" nights at bars/clubs in your area.  Many musicians/composers will showcase their music there, so that's another good place to look.

Once you form some friends and associations with musicians, you can ask them to play for you.  Some will ask for money, some will do it just for the pleasure of playing.  Whatever your situation/their situation is, you need to work it out.  Open Mic places will let you play for free (or for a fee), I'm not sure about it.

Good Luck!

[loonbohol]

thanks.