Tremolo between a note and chord

[allchopin]

Typical Liszt... I have to tremando a chord and a note in one hand, and I'm starting to realize how hard it really is.  I end up stiffening up which I try to release, but this makes the tremolo sound weak.  This could simultaneously go under Students section as well, but execution is what's important here.  How to attack this without tension?

[jlh]

Try moving your entire hand, as if you're playing a tambourine.  This will take some of the tension from your hand and disperse it throughout your arm.

[allchopin]

Yes, this is what I've been doing.  The problem is that I'm having trouble keeping the chord volume and the note volume even - usually what happens is my pinky ends up playing louder and it sounds uneven.  So to even this out I change something in my hand (usually by stiffeneing) and thus I get tense.

[krenske]

use more pedal

[allchopin]

Workarounds are pianists' best friends - I have plenty, but I'd like to actually play it as written 

[lostinidlewonder]

As for the instance of Ondine in Gaspard de la Nuit, it was a good idea to play perhaps not all the notes in the chord initially, leave one of the notes out and attempt to play the passage to get a sense of the touch. Muck around at changing which note you neglect until you find the one which is toughest to play. That is the one you have to practice. Then try to play it as a whole. I guess it is just this tinkering around with them until you can do it automatically. AS speed increases in the tremolo so does the flattening of the fingers, or the tension just increases. That is the general case anyway, all hands different.
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