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Offline jehangircama

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Beethoven sonata
on: July 19, 2005, 02:48:02 PM
I've been learning Beethoven's Fifth sonata in C minor (I guess you all must have done these sonatas years ago). In the 2nd movement, there are those runs with groups of 11 and such in 4-5 places. Do you'll have any tips on how I should practice those runs. Are there any specific exercises for those sort of runs.
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Offline phil13

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 02:46:36 AM
um... are you talking about playing their rhythm against the left hand or about the actual fingerwork?

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #2 on: July 25, 2005, 01:21:26 PM
both, unfortunately. but stressing more on the rythm problem
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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #3 on: July 25, 2005, 06:31:16 PM
OK. According to the book I have (Schenker edition) the notes you're talking about come in groups of 12, 6, 7, and once in 11. Here is my advice:

For the groups of 12 and 6, remember that those are just big groups of triplets. 12 is just 4 sets of triplets, 6 is 2 sets. For the 7 notes, play them in a group of 3 and a group of 4. As for the 11 128th notes... they'll be going pretty fast at tempo, but for practicing split it into a group of 5 and a group of 6. Practice them slowly, using the fingering indicated, and you should be fine.

HOWEVER... Take all of my advice with a grain of salt. Although I have done such splits in the past on other pieces, I have never played this particular sonata.

Offline viking

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #4 on: July 26, 2005, 08:26:37 AM
It sounds like good advice to me.  Make that 2 grains of salt.
SAM

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #5 on: July 26, 2005, 02:38:11 PM
thanks a lot. I'll start working on it in that manner
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Offline musicsdarkangel

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #6 on: July 27, 2005, 03:35:50 PM
When i practiced, I would play the notes slowly, and whenever I was about to shift positions, I would put my third finger on the upper note really quickly, and continue the run.

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Re: Beethoven sonata
Reply #7 on: July 28, 2005, 03:37:15 PM
thanks darkangel
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