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Waldszenen
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Chopin's Op. 25 No. 10 questions
on: July 31, 2005, 09:36:42 AM
Firstly, what kind of pedalling should one use in the octave etude? Too much seems to blur the hell out of the piece and too little makes it sound staccato or not forceful enough.
And secondly, following the introduction (the first two lines or whatever), as soon as the main theme kicks in, are you supposed to hold down the middle notes in each hand or just play them for the first octave? It seems impossible to actually hold them down while octave-ing at a rapid speed.
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Re: Chopin's Op. 25 No. 10 questions
Reply #1 on: July 31, 2005, 03:08:34 PM
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be played with pedal at last not the middle in B major.
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Re: Chopin's Op. 25 No. 10 questions
Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 02:27:08 AM
I don't believe there are any pedaling marks in my edition (Padwerski). This doesn't mean that you can't add them in, though. I think it all depends on your preferences and your comfort level with this. (pseudopianist -- I think the middle sounds better with pedal than without.) But keep it very light, subtle. Maybe try it at the beginning of each grouping of triplets.
IF you are pedaling heavily, there should be no need to hold down the middle notes. Actually there should be no need to if you just give it a good, loud, ringing accent. bring out that melody and there will be no need to hold it.
Chopin is layered.
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Waldszenen
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Re: Chopin's Op. 25 No. 10 questions
Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 12:16:57 PM
Come to think of it, I've yet to hear a single recording that
doesn't
use pedal...
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Re: Chopin's Op. 25 No. 10 questions
Reply #4 on: August 02, 2005, 12:11:02 AM
Pedalling is necessary for a more legato sound in both outer and middle sections. However you have to judge balance between how much pedal is necessary to achieve legato, and how much would make it all a blur.
Try half or quarter pedalling. Experiment with your piano.
As for holding the notes, I make sure they are brought out over the sound of the octaves. I also hold the notes as much as possible to preserve the melodic line and to catch them on the pedal, although I don't hold them for their full written value. In some places where the held note is only a quarter, it is possible to let go if you use the pedal to cary the sound of that quarter note.
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