are you beautiful

[bernhard]

I was so astonished by Bernhard's earlier assertions regarding the red/green qualia of colour perception that I had to look up everything I could find on it. I initially hoped that a cute argument might exist wherein I could assume a given person's colour qualia was continuous and homomorphic to another's.

oh, the shock and horror of it all!

Alas no, it would seem that Bernhard really is right, both pragmatically and philosophically.

 

Yes colour is just the tip of the iceberg. The reasoning is extended to the whole spectrum of perception – including sound and music. The consequences are staggering, and some would say, frightening. (Which explains perhaps why most people ignore and are uninterested in the problem, many times rejecting violently any mention of it).

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[gorbee natcase]

I was told this by a very emminant scientist, That everything is black what gives it colour is the way that light strikes it and that the speed of light can exceed 186,000 MPH, (300,000)KPH, the way this is done is that a glass spherical ball is projected in to a container of water the refracted light is unmeasurable

[prometheus]

The last is just fancy use of words. It is correct, but when told to a non-physicist she/he gets the wrong idea.

[leahcim]

The consequences are staggering, and some would say, frightening.

Why? It's an interesting question / subject, but that's about it. It's like when you ooh and ahh as David Copperfield makes a badger disappear, knowing how the trick is done is the staggering thing, not the possibility that before knowing the mystery shows "magic"

The fact that we don't know how to communicate our personal perception of "red" [whether it's qualia or whatever] or the fact they differ between people, is no more staggering than the fact I can't speak Japanese and thus the entire contents of a conversation in the language are unknown to me as well. At which point if I start oohing and ahhing at the staggering, frightening mystery of it all, I'm just displaying my ignorance of Japanese, I haven't found a new profound mystical property of the language or the universe that's beyond ken - why should ignorance of the mechanics of perception be any different? Just because there doesn't appear to be a group of people that do know yet?

[Siberian Husky]

i'd say im more pretty than beautiful

i'd say so too Roberto..but you know..your only 4 millers genuine drafts away from beautiful


my eggrolls are burning

[bonbonbon]

sortakinda

[chromatickler]

i happen to be legendary

[stevie]

i happen to be legendary

yeah right, and i am comme le vent...wishful thinking