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Topic: Rachmaninoff Prelude Opus 32 No. 12  (Read 1677 times)

Offline bach_ko

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Rachmaninoff Prelude Opus 32 No. 12
on: August 29, 2005, 08:43:12 PM
Urm... the middle part is not easy to play well, all the notes i played are not together. can someone help me?谢了~

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Re: Rachmaninoff Prelude Opus 32 No. 12
Reply #1 on: August 29, 2005, 09:13:14 PM
hmmmm, hi bach_ko  ;D

Maybe you could be a little more specific ?  Are there exact measures ?

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Offline jim_24601

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Re: Rachmaninoff Prelude Opus 32 No. 12
Reply #2 on: August 29, 2005, 09:36:10 PM
If I may leap in with a wild guess, the "middle section" to which bach_ko is referring could be around the top of the second page (in my edition), bb.24-30 if my count is right. The RH semiquaver chords on mostly black keys, yes? The thing that helped me when I played this piece was to really lean in to the first RH chord in each group. Rachmaninoff was feeling in a good mood that day, and has put a tenuto mark there to help you. You don't want a hard accent, but you want to push rather than strike the keys, and to push back rather than down. Try to feel it from the shoulder blade right to the back of the piano. A tiny bit of rubato here doesn't go too far amiss. I tend to take Rachmaninoff's tenuto marks as tacit permission to rubato a bit. 8)

Apart from that, my advice is the usual, to do lots and lots of slow work to get the togetherness you're looking for. It is a hard section to play well, indeed, but the results are worth it. It really is a beautiful piece.

Of course, if you're talking about a different section entirely, then as m1469 says you will have to make yourself a little clearer. ::)

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Re: Rachmaninoff Prelude Opus 32 No. 12
Reply #3 on: August 30, 2005, 12:43:18 AM
Hi, bach_ko,

I love this piece, and have played it for years.  I found it rather difficult in the beginning, as I had a hard time getting all the sections to come together in a coherent whole.   Anyway, i agree with jim's advice on that section.  Putting that weight into the first RH chord does the trick. 

I had a bit of trouble also on bars 16-19 with the LH stretches of 16th notes leading into the chords on the downbeats of each measure.  The key again is rubato, and not rushing to get to that downbeat, but stretching the tempo a bit. 

The only other thing I might say is, keep the light 16th note repetitive motif in the RH sort of like light sparkling on water, more impressionistic, and don't forget the long melodic lines Rachmaninoff is so wonderful at!

All the best, Teresa

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