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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #50 on: October 02, 2005, 09:00:37 PM
very loud and fast?  how about soft and slow?  i mean....what i mean is women can get you when you're not looking.  so just mind your manners and don't speak bad about us.

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Reply #51 on: October 02, 2005, 09:02:20 PM
I'm not getting into this topic, but I'm surprised no one found this.


what if we put brown bags over the heads of all concert pianists?  

They've gotta be really good to play with brown bags over their heads and still hit all the right notes.

Catch ya later.

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Reply #52 on: October 02, 2005, 10:04:13 PM
I'm not getting into this topic, but I'm surprised no one found this.

They've gotta be really good to play with brown bags over their heads and still hit all the right notes.

Catch ya later.

Phil


That's funny yo. Ah aint even see that.

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Yes, mastah...  Wink

Ah love this woman. HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Now make me a sandwich >:(

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if' is a big word   - IF women are at the bottom.  now, you might think they are only able to be in the kitchen or doing some lesser work. obviously, you've never seen karate kid 2.

No but ah've seen the Next Karate Kid, and a real martial artist would wipe the floor with her.

 
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the women are essential to the man's winning.  and, visa-versa.  i mean, do men ever cheer each other up?  no, they only compete - and some totally ruin anothers self-worth.  it's only women who make men feeling even one ounce of trying to win.  if there were no women, men would be reduced to obligation rather that the thrill of victory.

You've obviously forgot about those women who take pleasure in cutting a man down, try to prove that the girl who doesnt wear make up and probably looks better than her is not worth a your time, and are so hopelessly alone and dependant they seek attention and affection from who so ever will give it to them.

Would ah fight to win for such women? Only if they could make a good ham sandwich. Hopelessly depenant come on down!!!

And there is no thrill of victory, only the idea of a challenge. If you've won and are number one, then it was to easy, and your time is better spent elsewhere. There's is no room to grow where there is no place to fall. 8)





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the same for women.  if we asked the question karate kid did - the choice is yours:  live or die   - obviously, it would not be smart to answer die.  we could twist your nose and say 'wrong choice.'  we ultimately know that as long as we're around, you sometimes might wish you'd died.
Hell have no fury like a woman scorned right!?

Wrong. Whatever a woman can think of to torture someone, a guy could think of something far more. Only a man cant be pushed to that point as easily (wont make any comments there ;D).

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we know we're smarter.  we just play dumb. 
So that's you why scream when you put the jar of peanut butter in the microwave and the rim starts to spark instead of turning the microwave off. Standing on chairs when you see a cockroach works too ;D


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i mean really, have you ever won anything over a woman.  no, you let them win.
Let it be know as of this day forewared,  We, the men, let You, the women win therefore, you, the women, are smarter. And also that winning an argumment means you are more intelligent even if said arguement takes place during Plutos wanning phase, or we simply give in due to despondency from your lack of ability to comprehend logical facts. Irrationality is your greatest strength and rationale is our greatest weakness. Woe is us.

 
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then, it's less work for us and a sort of dumbing down for you.

And with that sentence ah withdraw mah previous statement. 8)
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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #53 on: October 02, 2005, 11:50:58 PM
as i see it, there's no competition.  did you know that in the bible, wisdom is spoken of in the feminine gender?  did you every wonder why some presidents have top female advisors ?  men have great strength, but often it takes the combination of strength and wits (and sometimes dexterity) to solve a problem.  i think men and women should look at each other in terms of what they can help each other with instead of competing.

of course, in the reverse, there are many problems women would be stuck with if it weren't for men helping them.  take computers, for instance.  it would be pointless for me to have a computer in the house if my husband weren't here.  of course, there are many women who are computer literate - but, for me, as long as he's around - my problems are solved (and quite a few others).

people who try to fight nature just end up in an argument with themselves.  they remain without decent meals, clean clothes, someone to have a good talk with, and most important to guys (it seems) sex.  guys can try to solve other guys problems - but look how good it worked out for the odd couple.  it was worse for two guys to try to make a home.  i mean, how do you decide who's going to be the one to get on the chair when the cockroach comes around?  who's the one who's always going to kill the cockroach?  how do they decide these things?  will it be an argument each time.

with a girlfriend or wife - you have the advantage of built in talents/ or lack of them.  when you know a person's strengths and weaknesses you can use them (and visa-versa) to your advantage.  as i see it, if you want lots of sex, treat your wife with respect and never hit a female (whether you are into karate or not).  torture isn't what women are about (and never have been).  when's the last time you read in the paper about a woman torturing a man?  probably only that clip from 10 years ago about some woman cutting a man's'you know what' off.  yet, women are often missing, murdered, etc. it seems daily.  i suppose that you might bring up the woman who recently murdered her husband (but of the things she tells about him, it's kind of a wonder he lived as long as he did without someone else finding out and doing him in).

to me, the greatest joy of living is seeing my husband happy.  when you have peace and tranquility in your home, nothing really gets to you.  but, when you have fighting and competing, it seems that life has no point.  if there is no one to trust, no one to share your problems with, no one to care - it's just kind of lonely.  lonliness isn't something to be ashamed of.  i think people were generally created to want to have companionship. i think when people learn how to get along - marriage can be reasurring to anyone's self-worth.  it's not a bad thing to be a 'kept man' or 'kept woman.'  it just means someone cares enough to look out for you and keep you happier than you'd be alone.  i'd marry my husband without any reservations all over again.

ps  for those women that take pleasure in cutting a man down - i think they're stupid.  and, for men who would say they'd mop the floor with a woman - they're insane.  if you went into a jewelry store - would you take the diamonds and do that? 

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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #54 on: October 03, 2005, 02:38:15 AM
You keep giving me less amo to work with :-\

And your sudden lack of strong opposition is eating away at mah desire to tear your post apart and give the shreds to mah cat (she's wild and will eat anything; even your hand).

Maybe ahs was right.

But ah'll try anyway ;D

as i see it, there's no competition.  did you know that in the bible, wisdom is spoken of in the feminine gender?
It was also edited several times and chapter were omitted to suit the needs of the church.

 
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did you every wonder why some presidents have top female advisors ?  men have great strength, but often it takes the combination of strength and wits (and sometimes dexterity) to solve a problem.  i think men and women should look at each other in terms of what they can help each other with instead of competing.
Ah can see nowhere where men and women compete, but ah guess that's because ahm a man.

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of course, in the reverse, there are many problems women would be stuck with if it weren't for men helping them.  take computers, for instance.  it would be pointless for me to have a computer in the house if my husband weren't here.  of course, there are many women who are computer literate - but, for me, as long as he's around - my problems are solved (and quite a few others).

....something will come....


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people who try to fight nature just end up in an argument with themselves.  they remain without decent meals, clean clothes, someone to have a good talk with, and most important to guys (it seems) sex.  guys can try to solve other guys problems - but look how good it worked out for the odd couple.  it was worse for two guys to try to make a home.  i mean, how do you decide who's going to be the one to get on the chair when the cockroach comes around?  who's the one who's always going to kill the cockroach?  how do they decide these things?  will it be an argument each time.

Uh..yeah... you um....

Ehm...


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with a girlfriend or wife - you have the advantage of built in talents/ or lack of them.  when you know a person's strengths and weaknesses you can use them (and visa-versa) to your advantage.  as i see it, if you want lots of sex, treat your wife with respect and never hit a female (whether you are into karate or not).  torture isn't what women are about (and never have been).


*watches cat attack string hanging from bed*

yeah...that uh...cough

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when's the last time you read in the paper about a woman torturing a man?  probably only that clip from 10 years ago about some woman cutting a man's'you know what' off.  yet, women are often missing, murdered, etc. it seems daily.  i suppose that you might bring up the woman who recently murdered her husband (but of the things she tells about him, it's kind of a wonder he lived as long as he did without someone else finding out and doing him in).
Yeah...uh,,,. there are a lot more....women....who...uh....murderers and...yeah because of ..... equal freedoms and stuff...more then before

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to me, the greatest joy of living is seeing my husband happy.  when you have peace and tranquility in your home, nothing really gets to you.  but, when you have fighting and competing, it seems that life has no point.  if there is no one to trust, no one to share your problems with, no one to care - it's just kind of lonely.  lonliness isn't something to be ashamed of.  i think people were generally created to want to have companionship. i think when people learn how to get along - marriage can be reasurring to anyone's self-worth.  it's not a bad thing to be a 'kept man' or 'kept woman.'  it just means someone cares enough to look out for you and keep you happier than you'd be alone.  i'd marry my husband without any reservations all over again.

ps  for those women that take pleasure in cutting a man down - i think they're stupid.  and, for men who would say they'd mop the floor with a woman - they're insane.  if you went into a jewelry store - would you take the diamonds and do that? 

Marry me 8)

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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #55 on: October 03, 2005, 02:51:20 AM
A ghey male knitter would run circles around you while twitching his hips and nagging about the metal hanger in your closet.



He can run circles around me like a mad dog all he wants, but I'll still be a better knitter than he. And running around someone armed with thin, sharp metal needles is not a smart thing to do.

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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #56 on: October 03, 2005, 03:28:05 PM
I was looking for this thread, and i thought it must have not been superficial enough ,thats why they deleted it. Anyway am back.
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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #57 on: October 03, 2005, 07:23:03 PM
i must be crazy.  this is the first thread i looked at today.  ready to take on another load of whatever - and, get 'marry me.'  now that's a shock (now i'm speechless - erm, umm, well -- i'm married, but that was nice to ask).  i was getting ready to add something to prometheus's post about a women having highest iq (ps thanks for that, prometheus) but now am reduced to thinking about that cary grant movie with grace kelly - you know the one where he's a jewelry thief and she teases him with the diamond necklace around her neck.  he really does do some theivery, but strangely her mother likes him.  i think it's the wierdest, yet funniest movie i've seen.  you're never quite sure if it is the woman on the rooftop caught doing the major stealing, or cary grant (doing the minor stealing) - and who he's really in love with - but that passionate kiss and then cary's lifting of one eyebrow when grace says 'i love it here, i think my mother will love it here, too.' 

unfortunately, the truth is probably somewhere between our two posts.  some women have increasing become more self reliant, and some men (like a few fashion designers i've seen) a strange propensity to ridicule femininity at all costs.  it does seem funny to see a woman trying to be a man, and a man trying to be a woman.

i say, be yourself.  even if you're not serious.  or, if you are serious.  just don't take yourself too serious.



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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #58 on: October 03, 2005, 07:34:59 PM
women can get you when you're not looking.  so just mind your manners and don't speak bad about us.

They bite, with very sharp teeth; you guys better watch it... ;D

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Reply #59 on: October 03, 2005, 07:39:58 PM
They bite, with very sharp teeth; you guys better watch it... ;D




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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #60 on: October 03, 2005, 07:45:30 PM
AAHHHH!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Look out for m1469, she bit me in the chat room..It hurt, I bled... :-[  :'(

m1469 nice, no hurt arensky again please... :P

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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #61 on: October 03, 2005, 07:54:56 PM
You keep giving me less amo to work with :-\


Give up now. You cannot win this arguement with pianistimo, she has decided that she will win. And when a woman decides that, all of our upper body strrength and macho determination counts for nothing. She will post and post and post and post and post and post and post and post and post until you give up. And she is very well organized mentally. And is right about this, most of the time Don't drag arensky in, he will post on the original subject (piano playing) later.  ;)
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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #62 on: October 03, 2005, 08:26:12 PM
AAHHHH!!!!!  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Look out for m1469, she bit me in the chat room..It hurt, I bled... :-[  :'(

m1469 nice, no hurt arensky again please... :P

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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #63 on: October 04, 2005, 08:12:55 AM
Easy tiger.
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Re: Am i sexist
Reply #64 on: October 04, 2005, 08:25:11 AM
I feel that there are a lot of very good female pianists who do not get the fame because music is a profession which requires connections, some politics and ...lets face it, treachery! WE are obviously better at that.
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Reply #65 on: October 06, 2005, 07:58:27 PM
Woman know there are more important things in life than playing or composing all day. Or studying chess/math/phyiscs/etc all day long.
    YOU ARE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OK!!!!!!!! learn to play beethoven mvt 3!!!!!!!
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Reply #66 on: October 07, 2005, 02:18:58 AM
    YOU ARE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OK!!!!!!!! learn to play beethoven mvt 3!!!!!!!
 :( >:( 8)

 ???

uh....right.....


So mah preconceived notions about the abilities of the female pianists were stumped on today. At mah school there's is the piano that is damn near mute and this one female pianist hit it with clean clear rapid fortissimo sound that was louder than anything ah'd ever hear on this piano. To make things even mo shocking, she's half my mah height with hands the size of a baby. If it werent for the fact that she's been playing since she was a wee lass, ah might have ended mah life right then and there.

Gimme ten years - ah'll show her 8)
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Reply #67 on: October 07, 2005, 04:26:36 PM
    YOU ARE WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OK!!!!!!!! learn to play beethoven mvt 3!!!!!!!
 :( >:( 8)

rimv2 sorry im a newbie,not to computers, but to thus forum and on the first day i always dod umb stuff for fun so sorry ;D

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Reply #68 on: October 08, 2005, 04:55:07 PM
???

uh....right.....


So mah preconceived notions about the abilities of the female pianists were stumped on today. At mah school there's is the piano that is *** near mute and this one female pianist hit it with clean clear rapid fortissimo sound that was louder than anything ah'd ever hear on this piano. To make things even mo shocking, she's half my mah height with hands the size of a baby. If it werent for the fact that she's been playing since she was a wee lass, ah might have ended mah life right then and there.

Gimme ten years - ah'll show her 8)

Good! But your final comment shows you have learned nothing from this life experience. In ten years maybe she will still be better than you, that much farther ahead! BWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHBWAHBWAHW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-* :-*

Maybe you should grow up focus on artistry instead of  being a dumb piano jock :P ::)
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Reply #69 on: October 08, 2005, 09:43:29 PM
Good! But your final comment shows you have learned nothing from this life experience. In ten years maybe she will still be better than you, that much farther ahead! BWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHABWAHBWAHBWAHW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-* :-*

Maybe you should grow up focus on artistry instead of  being a dumb piano jock :P ::)

You dont know who you're talking to >:(

so..... ah'll be nice 8)

What ah meant by ten years is that ah'll be able to make a loud clear sound like her, ah doubt that she'll be able to go louder as there is a limit to how loud you can go before the strings break.

Regarding your last comment- It's probably better directed at one such as Lang Lang.  ;)

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Reply #70 on: October 09, 2005, 04:25:02 PM

 mah preconceived notions about the abilities of the female pianists

This is what I mean, don't dismiss other people based on their gender or race etc. It's short sighted and stupid. And it will come back at you. Evaluate musicians based on their ability, not their gender.

Your preconceived notions have been exploded, good fo da gurl....
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Reply #71 on: October 10, 2005, 02:54:08 AM
This is what I mean, don't dismiss other people based on their gender or race etc. It's short sighted and stupid. And it will come back at you. Evaluate musicians based on their ability, not their gender.

Your preconceived notions have been exploded, good fo da gurl....

Don't believe everything you read on the internet :-*.
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Reply #72 on: October 10, 2005, 03:06:38 AM
it was said in this forum was good pianism is connected with IQ.
lately i have read in the newspaper that on the average, women's IQ is 5 points lower than men's..


therefore. women are less good pianists..

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! (well... some of it not)


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Reply #73 on: October 10, 2005, 06:10:57 AM
over half the pianists in the van cliburn were women, it seemed.  going to listen to helene grimaud on tuesday.  she's playing rachmaninov.

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Reply #74 on: October 10, 2005, 07:03:07 AM
it was said in this forum was good pianism is connected with IQ.
lately i have read in the newspaper that on the average, women's IQ is 5 points lower than men's..


therefore. women are less good pianists..

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!! (well... some of it not)


argerich,kern,biret,fanny mendelssohn,amy beach
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Gina Bachauer,  Jeanne-Marie Darre, Alicia de Larrocha, Karen Shaw, Haesun Paik, Jaeun Koo, Mitsuko Uchida, Maria Joao Pires, Elly Ney, Oxana Yablonskaya, Bella Davidovich, Rosalyn Tureck, Gaby Casadesus, Hiroko Nakamura, Eileen Joyce, Myra Hess, Lili Kraus, Angela Hewitt, Ruth Laredo,
Guiomar Novaes, Hilde Somer, Linda Nagy, Veronica Jochum, Erica Nicrenz, Juana Zayas, Agathe Bahcker-Grohndahl, Adele aus der Ohe, Teresa Carreno, Guher and Suher Peinekel, Felicia Blumenthal, Ingrid Haebler, Natalie Hinderas, Naida Cole, Ilana Vered, Dubravka Tomsic, Ursula Oppens, Susan Starr, Helene Grimaud, Blanca Uribe...
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Reply #75 on: October 10, 2005, 04:57:37 PM
thanks, arensky!  i will print out this list for future reference.  and, if i don't like helene grimaud's playing - i certainly won't post it here.  *my personal preference is a hot male pianist - but i have to see what she can do so i can brag if she's really good.

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Reply #76 on: October 11, 2005, 01:28:14 AM
thanks, arensky! i will print out this list for future reference

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Reply #77 on: October 23, 2005, 04:19:00 AM
I don't think sex has anything to do with how well an individual plays, but I do think sex has a part on how people perceive.  I think generally people tends to admire male pianist more because they are essentially stronger and dominant, and therefore, the image becomes more dynamic.   :)

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Reply #78 on: October 23, 2005, 08:12:52 PM
I don't think sex has anything to do with how well an individual plays, but I do think sex has a part on how people perceive.  I think generally people tends to admire male pianist more because they are essentially stronger and dominant, and therefore, the image becomes more dynamic.   :)

Ah'll take it that you're female. Don't bother to correct meh. It doesnt really matter. When a male is playing, if he's worth a sh@7, he actually appears less dynamic than a female. A female, if she worth a sh@7 has to put forth more effort, especially when she is small, and thus appears to be more dynamic.

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Chopin and His Europe - Warsaw Invites the World

Celebrating its 20th anniversary the festival “Chopin and His Europe” included the thematic title “And the Rest of the World”, featuring world-renowned pianists and international and national top ensembles and orchestras. As usual the event explored Chopin's music through diverse perspectives, spanning four centuries of repertoire. Piano Street presents a selection of concerts videos including an interview with the festival’s founder, Chopin Institute’s Stanislaw Leszczynski. Read more
 

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