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Offline xvimbi

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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #50 on: November 04, 2005, 05:56:14 PM
Open www.answers.com and type “etude”.By definition this is a piece composed for the development of a specific point of technique and performed because of its artistic merit.Like in artistic gymnastics in piano competition there are 2 components: the “sport” component and the “artistic” one. Similarly to the obligatory program in artistic gymnastics the etude must be performed exactly as conceived by its author: even every  slight digression from the original score is to be punished.But obviously the “sport” component takes its toll: the competing pianist cheats and misses notes because he strives to play it at 170. At 120 I can play perfectly all 3-note chords in op10/2. Let’s say that my competitor can achieve the same precision at 144.Now enters the “artistic“ component. If we both play the etude aesthetically satisfactorily the guy playing faster normally will beat me because this is an etude and he achieves more points in the “sport” section of the competition.

If that is truly true, then I will from now on never touch an Etude again. Are you saying that the judges actually watch the performers fingers? Mistakes is one thing, but alternate fingering is an entirely different thing. I haven't heard of sports components in pianistic competitions, but that might just reflect my naivity in this respect. It doesn't make sense (to me).

Offline gouldfischer

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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #51 on: November 10, 2005, 05:32:00 PM
What a pity, the yousendit links have expired! After reading the whole discussion, I got really curious about that guy... could anyone please share the videos one more time?

great thanks,
    Vinicius.

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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #52 on: November 19, 2005, 03:04:21 AM
Chopin Etudes 10/2 and 25/11

https://s35.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=16Z01TGWXI22C0IPGNF38S6M4B

dont forget to go to www.videolan.org and download the program neccesary to run the video.  Quick open the file and go to AUDIO TRACK 2.

Enjoy!

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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #53 on: November 19, 2005, 04:00:42 AM
Wunder's technique is truely amazing. I missed his performances at the Chopin comp but have had the chance to listen to a few clips. His winterwind was blazingly fast, I've been reliably informed that it's a mere 1 second slower than gavrilov (!). His A minor waltz was played with such natural feeling, it was beautiful. The ballade 1 features the fastest PCF that I've ever heard, but I feel the tempo was a bit too fast and his playing in the rest was boring.

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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #54 on: November 19, 2005, 07:17:40 AM
There's no doubt the kid has serious chops. Phenomenal chops. But it's annoying that he approaches every fast section as if he is trying to break some kind of record.  Yes there ARE different degrees of fast.

Maybe I am just getting old.



not suprisingly, the latter statement has much more credential than the prior one.  :P
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Re: Videos: Ingolf Wunder
Reply #55 on: November 19, 2005, 07:26:05 AM
Open www.answers.com and type “etude”.By definition this is a piece composed for the development of a specific point of technique and performed because of its artistic merit.Like in artistic gymnastics in piano competition there are 2 components: the “sport” component and the “artistic” one. Similarly to the obligatory program in artistic gymnastics the etude must be performed exactly as conceived by its author: even every  slight digression from the original score is to be punished.But obviously the “sport” component takes its toll: the competing pianist cheats and misses notes because he strives to play it at 170. At 120 I can play perfectly all 3-note chords in op10/2. Let’s say that my competitor can achieve the same precision at 144.Now enters the “artistic“ component. If we both play the etude aesthetically satisfactorily the guy playing faster normally will beat me because this is an etude and he achieves more points in the “sport” section of the competition.

I’m sorry that there exist such things as competition in music, because music and human soul are the same thing.In other words people compete with their souls which in my opinion is preposterous.But “c’est la vie” – modern life is a nonstop competition especially for young ambitious people.


haha u got owned by zepp on the note-by-note analysis.
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