Beethovens pathetique sonata

[matt haley]

Hey
   
   i recently began this sonata after finishing the tempest and also the 1st movements 
   of  op101 op 109 and 110....
   i learnt the last two movements of the pathetique within the last month relatively   easily and have played through the 1st movement but im not happy with the allegro molto...

ive a kwai piano(fairly good but not great).....but the tremelo's starting on the second page,they sound that with the broken chords in the right hand staccatto, that pedal is needed... but when adding the pedal the sound can get muddy..

  ive only played a few years and i know iv got the sonata almost complete but could i please ask for advice from all you experienced pianists on how you pedal the allegro molto..

your comments will be greatly appreciated

       thanks all,

           Matt haley

[fiasco]

Play it without the pedal when the tremolo first starts and the RH chords begin their ascent, increasing volume as you go.  Then, when the highest chord is hit, hit it hard and hold the pedal, releasing and holding for each of the chords in the descent.  To me, the first part of that tremolo section should be a build up, gradually increasing in strength until that last high chord is hit, which should be the peak.  A lot of power can be conveyed here,  and pedal use has much to do with achieving this effect.

[gorbee natcase]

First of all the tremollos do need the slightest ammount of pedal and this is only acheived on an accoustic  not digital as I have tried it on a digital and it just doesn't sound rhythmic


to explain it would only confuse you furether and I don't want to do that. You can find midis on line of the pathetique just slow them down and it makes them more coherent asd the assention is tricky at first on page 2, Page 5  relies on the knowledge you learned on page 2 so it it vital to miron this out first as you will have to gedt a grasp of page 5, however once you learn page 2 it realy is a peice of pee.

               https://www.classicalarchives.com/midi/m.html             I think the MIDI is available here but don't hold me to it