dear tim42b, i sort of agree about societal vengeance. i mean, in certain cases if a person is REALLY psycho - they probably need counselling more than prison, but so people don't go around killing their children, she was made an example of. what i don't understand is why she didn't ask for help. maybe it was her husband's responsibility to keep on top of her psychologically - and not leave the children with her when she was not feeling right. i don't know. he seemed very surprised, himself, though - so i feel badly for both of them.
Well PP, even crazy people don't necessarily think they're crazy. That's part of what makes them crazy. They lack the judgment to understand that some actions are just nuts. To kill your kids in order to save them from Satan (or whatever Andrea (not Andrian) Yates did) is crazy and she should have been sent to an asylum for help. Unfortunately, Texas' laws on proving insanity have little basis in reality.
Now to the subject at hand. Women will laugh at a man's jokes if they want to get to know him better. So to the original poster may I suggest you work on your personal grooming.
Here's some humor the women will appreciate:
Why women lieOne day, when a seamstress was sewing while sitting close to a river, her thimble fell into the river.
When she cried out, the Lord appeared and asked, "My dear child, why are you crying?" The seamstress replied that her thimble had fallen into the water and that she needed it to help her husband in making a living for their family.
The Lord dipped His hand into the water and pulled up a golden thimble set with pearls. "Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked.
The seamstress replied, "No."
The Lord again dipped into the river. He held out a silver thimble ringed with sapphires. "Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked.
Again, the seamstress replied, "No." The Lord reached down again and came up with a leather thimble. "Is this your thimble?" the Lord asked.
The seamstress replied, "Yes."
The Lord was pleased with the woman's honesty and gave her all three thimbles to keep, and the seamstress went home happy.
Some years later, the seamstress was walking with her husband along the riverbank and her husband fell into the river and disappeared under the water.
When she cried out, the Lord again appeared and asked her, "Why are you crying?"
"Oh Lord, my husband has fallen into the river!"
The Lord went down into the water and came up with Mel Gibson. "Is this your husband?" the Lord asked.
"Yes," cried the seamstress.
The Lord was furious. "You lied! That is an untruth!"
The seamstress replied, "Oh, forgive me, my Lord. It is a misunderstanding. You see, if I had said 'no' to Mel Gibson, you would have come up with Tom Cruise. Then if I said 'no' to him, you would have come up with my husband. Had I then said 'yes,' you would have given me all three. Lord, I'm not in the best of health and would not be able to take care of all three husbands, so THAT'S why I said 'yes' to Mel Gibson."
The moral of this story is: Whenever a woman lies, it's for a good and honorable reason, and in the best interest of others.
That's their story, and they're sticking to it.
Steve