Liszt lineage

[jas]

More stupid questions from my end of the forum, you'll be delighted to hear.

Which famous pianists of the past and present have descended pianistically from Liszt? I know there are many, I just can't seem to find anything about it.

And, unlikely though it seems, are there any that descended from Chopin? I know he didn't have very many famous pupils, so maybe not.

Thanks

[prometheus]

Arrau through Krause.

[pianistimo]

arthur freidheim, copied many of liszt's mannerisms
arthur de greef
alexander siloti
constantin von sternberg
josef weiss
raphael joseffy (one of the greatest pianists of the nineteenth century - according to schoenberg's book)
frederick lamond
jose vianna da motta
emile von sauer
alfred reisenauer (big and his playing was big)
isaac albeniz
moritz rosenthal (speed, power, endurance)
eugene d'albert

this list is really last to first - as far as schoenberg's book - in terms of liszt prodigies

[mike_lang]

Don't forget that Rachmaninoff was a protege of Liszt.  Tausig too, I believe.

[jas]

Just a few, then!

Thanks very much

[prometheus]

Rachmaninoff?

[thalbergmad]

Don't forget that Rachmaninoff was a protege of Liszt.  Tausig too, I believe.

Rachmaninoff only indirectly via Siloti or Zverev. I can't remember which one.

[gruffalo]

Zverev.

[kriskicksass]

It should be noted that most of Liszt's pupils weren't traditional students. Many had met Liszt in somewhat of a masterclass setting, which he gave for free (or was it that he gave all lessons for free?).

[prometheus]

I think it should be Siloti.

[mike_lang]

Rachmaninoff only indirectly via Siloti or Zverev. I can't remember which one.

Sorry, I should have looked this up before I posted.  He studied under both Siloti and Zverev; Siloti was the Liszt pupil.

[thorn]

It should be noted that most of Liszt's pupils weren't traditional students. Many had met Liszt in somewhat of a masterclass setting, which he gave for free (or was it that he gave all lessons for free?).

kind of going off on a tangent here, but he gave free lessons to students who came from deprived families... not sure about his other students

[prometheus]

Ah yes. I read Scriabin's biography and I never heard a Liszt pupil being mentioned. Of course I realised that didn't mean much.

[steinwaymodeld]

It should be noted that most of Liszt's pupils weren't traditional students. Many had met Liszt in somewhat of a masterclass setting, which he gave for free (or was it that he gave all lessons for free?).

either way he doesn't charge

he doesn't charge people who come to study with him.

[prometheus]

Czerny taught Liszt for free.

I guess Liszt taught those who could not affort him but had talent for free also, as a way to repay Czerny.

I am sure he taught many 'prinsesses' for a lot of money.

[sauergrandson]

Emil von Sauer, pupil of Liszt.... taught and married the mexican pianist Angelica Morales, who was principal of Vienna Conservatory.

Angelica Morales taught Antonio Alderete, who taught me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 

[emmdoubleew]

Bartok descends from Liszt, and majorly respected him.