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Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
on: May 15, 2006, 10:59:35 AM
I know some of these songs are famous, but I heard one that was called a hunting song or something like that, which number is that one?
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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 04:10:48 PM
 Songs Without Words - Op19 No.3 in A Major -  Hunting Song -  Molto Allegro e vivace

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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 04:27:12 PM
Great PieceĦĦĦ
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #3 on: May 16, 2006, 09:52:24 AM
ah thanks!

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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #4 on: August 07, 2006, 04:30:52 AM
By the way, how hard was this piece for those who played it?
I played it last semester and boy I had cramps all over my right forearms due to a very bad  techniqne approach. I think I will try it again and clean it up.

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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #5 on: August 07, 2006, 05:14:26 AM
By the way, how hard was this piece for those who played it?(...)
Dear Canardroti:
 The piece has three issues, in my modest opinion:
 - the clear execution of the chords in dotted rhythm;
 - the octaves in both hands;
 - the right hand arpeggio in 16ths.
 The hardest is the first, because the chords are sometimes played forte, and you must have a good technique of both hand and forearm to stroke the notes properly. The octaves I think you must always be aware, but in this case it's all staccato, so it's not that difficult.
 By the way, again we talk about the same kind of technique, and I must ask you something: which joints and muscles do you use to attack the chords and the octaves? If you're doing this wrong (trying to play only with the fingers, or stressing your moves), is a very probable cause of your mentioned cramps. Did you notice fatigue, pain, cramps, anything like these, playing another works?
 Finally, the arpeggio is long, fluid and secondary, so it gets some work till sounding as it is.
 Best wishes, and take care of your arm!
 
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Re: Mendelssohn-lied ohne worte
Reply #6 on: August 07, 2006, 05:31:42 PM
Dear Canardroti:
 The piece has three issues, in my modest opinion:
 - the clear execution of the chords in dotted rhythm;
 - the octaves in both hands;
 - the right hand arpeggio in 16ths.
 The hardest is the first, because the chords are sometimes played forte, and you must have a good technique of both hand and forearm to stroke the notes properly. The octaves I think you must always be aware, but in this case it's all staccato, so it's not that difficult.
 By the way, again we talk about the same kind of technique, and I must ask you something: which joints and muscles do you use to attack the chords and the octaves? If you're doing this wrong (trying to play only with the fingers, or stressing your moves), is a very probable cause of your mentioned cramps. Did you notice fatigue, pain, cramps, anything like these, playing another works?
 Finally, the arpeggio is long, fluid and secondary, so it gets some work till sounding as it is.
 Best wishes, and take care of your arm!
 


I was doing everything from the fingers , so I kept on pressing those chords and octaves  down even though there was no need to and created stress in my forearms, very bad!
by the time i got the the last 2 pages with the 16th notes in the right hand, i was DEAD tired and i had no articulation playing those passages, that was a bad recital! Oh well, after that i've read several book on relaxation, Chang's book of course which was very very rewarding and used a different approach to my technique.
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