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walking_encyclopedia

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i'm going to be starting this etude, while continuing to perfect 10/1 and 12.

any ideas about covering these enormous chords? one good thing is that i do have a tenth, otherwise i wouldn't have had a chance with 10/1

i'm also thinking about beginning 10/9 and 10 at the same point so any info regarding those is appreciated as well

thanks

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Re: 10/11

Reply #1 on: May 25, 2006, 05:51:04 PM

I played 10/9 and it is not that hard. Just have elestic hands (LH). but you have a tenth so it could not be a problem. Relax your wrist while playing it.

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Re: 10/11

Reply #2 on: May 25, 2006, 10:43:56 PM

Complete security in the notes and a complete lack of tension is the only way to go. Also, if you don't need big hands for 10/1; if you're free of tension you can play that with an octave (or maybe less?). After learning 10/11, rework 10/1 while thinking about the arpeggiating motion used on 10/11 while playing the right hand runs in 10/1. You'll see what I mean.

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Re: 10/11

Reply #3 on: May 26, 2006, 01:44:42 AM

I posted my recording of 10/11 here: https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,18220.0.html

Good luck learning it. 10/10 and 10/11 are murder played back to back.

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walking_encyclopedia

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Re: 10/11

Reply #4 on: May 26, 2006, 03:14:23 PM

Quote from: kriskicksass on May 25, 2006, 10:43:56 PM

Complete security in the notes and a complete lack of tension is the only way to go. Also, if you don't need big hands for 10/1; if you're free of tension you can play that with an octave (or maybe less?). After learning 10/11, rework 10/1 while thinking about the arpeggiating motion used on 10/11 while playing the right hand runs in 10/1. You'll see what I mean.

thanks kriskicksass but could you expand on that a little? i'm looking for ways to improve 10/1 and it sounds like you're on to something.

and orlandopiano that rec was very impressive. have you recorded any other chopin etudes? if you have please post!!!

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Re: 10/11

Reply #5 on: May 26, 2006, 04:23:02 PM

Quote from: walking_encyclopedia on May 26, 2006, 03:14:23 PM

and orlandopiano that rec was very impressive. have you recorded any other chopin etudes? if you have please post!!!

Thanks. I've played a lot of the etudes, but not recorded any. I think I might have 25/10 on video somewhere.

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Re: 10/11

Reply #6 on: May 27, 2006, 12:03:33 AM

Quote from: orlandopiano on May 26, 2006, 01:44:42 AM

Good luck learning it. 10/10 and 10/11 are murder played back to back.

Why, may I ask? I'll be beginning 10/10 very soon.

Phil

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Re: 10/11

Reply #7 on: May 27, 2006, 12:08:08 AM

Regarding 10-11

You do not need be able to play the chords solid in order to play them broken. Just pick a pivot note (i.e., Gb in the r.h., Bb in the l.h. for the first measure). It requires, of course, the absence of tension, as well as intelligent use of the rotation and shift movements. As always, I suggest reading Cortot's comments in his edition, published by Salabert and distributed by Hal Leonard.

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walking_encyclopedia

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Re: 10/11

Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 03:43:39 AM

Quote from: michael_langlois on May 27, 2006, 12:08:08 AM

Regarding 10-11

I suggest reading Cortot's comments in his edition, published by Salabert and distributed by Hal Leonard.

i've heard so much about the 'cortot edition' i really want to check it out but i googled it and can't find it. can you give me a webpage that i can order from?

thanx

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Re: 10/11

Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 05:27:53 AM

www.burtnco.com

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