Ligeti - White on White sheets

[pies]

Is there an edition of the sheets for this piece that isn't handwritten?

[ryguillian]

Yes, and it can be purchased (along with the rest of book 3 of the etudes) from Schott publishers.


--Ryan

[pies]

I'm looking for a PDF and costless edition. 

[jre58591]

I'm looking for a PDF and costless edition. 

i am too. unfortunately, i think it is still under copyright.

[ahinton]

i am too. unfortunately, i think it is still under copyright.

Yes, it is - which is why Ryan wrote, correctly, as he did, about where to get this music.

Best,

Alistair

[thorn]

what do you mean by a handwritten version?

  as if someone actually wrote it out to try and get around the copyright?? is that what you mean?

[pies]

what do you mean by a handwritten version?

  as if someone actually wrote it out to try and get around the copyright?? is that what you mean?

The PDF of the book three etudes that has been floating around the internet is handwritten (written by Ligeti himself if I remember correctly).

[ahinton]

what do you mean by a handwritten version?

  as if someone actually wrote it out to try and get around the copyright?? is that what you mean?

"Writing it out" (when the writer is not the composer, that is - which, as "pies" has pointed out", is not the case here anyway) doesn't "get around the copyright"; the copyright is in the music itself, so it makes no difference who "wrote it out" or whether it is printed, it remains.

Best,

Alistair

[mephisto]

This may be a bit out of the topic. But am I allowed to play music of living composers in public without asking them in one way or another?

[thorn]

This may be a bit out of the topic. But am I allowed to play music of living composers in public without asking them in one way or another?

unless they specifically tell you not to I assume it is okay....

i mean, come on, as if they could honestly track down every copy of their music ever printed and stop people? at the end of the day if they dont want their music performed by others, don't publish it- just keep it for yourself... simple as

[bennom]

Forgive me for being totally off topic, but I must strongly recommend a splendid site named www.abrahamespinosa.com. This has nothing to do with the initial question. *cough*

[gymnopedist]

Forgive me for being totally off topic, but I must strongly recommend a splendid site named www.abrahamespinosa.com. This has nothing to do with the initial question. *cough*

Well, that site only contains the hand-written score...

[bennom]

Well, that site only contains the hand-written score...

Well, I told you it was OT.

[ahinton]

This may be a bit out of the topic. But am I allowed to play music of living composers in public without asking them in one way or another?

Yes, of course you are - in almost all circumstances. As I have observed elsewhere, when copyrighted music is performed in public, it is usually the responsibility of the licensee/s of the performance venue - not the performer/s - to make due returns and then pay any performance royalties due.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

unless they specifically tell you not to I assume it is okay....

i mean, come on, as if they could honestly track down every copy of their music ever printed and stop people? at the end of the day if they dont want their music performed by others, don't publish it- just keep it for yourself... simple as

As best we understand it, the object of keeping track of public performances of copyright music is not to try to preclude its performance but to ensure that any due returns and payments are made in respect of it - and it's certainly not, as you appear to suggest, about tracking down printed copies of scores so that performances can be prevented. The question of copyright in printed or ms. music scores is a different area to that of its public performance.

You are, of course, correct in suggesting that if a composer wants to prevent any of his works being performed in public, his/her best policy is not to publish it - and by "publish" here, I mean make available in any form as a document from which performences could be prepared and given. Composers do occasionally withdraw works for this very reason - and that is their prerogative; we are, for example, responsible for the distribution of most of Marc-André Hamelin's music and he has twice asked us to withdraw pieces that he has come to decide he no longer wishes to be issued. Of course, if a piece that a composer wishes to witdraw from future distribution has already been widely circulated, that does present a problem - and obviously not one that has an easy solution...

Best,

Alistair