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Offline barnowl

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Please teach me some Russian
on: June 24, 2006, 02:44:42 AM
I'm having a wonderful time taking lessons from my Russian born
teacher. She has a very good sense of humor, and the hour's lesson is
serious, then funny and back and forth but always upbeat and focussed..

I do my best and sometimes I play passably, and often, not. I figure some comments in Russian might be in order at appropriate times.

So I need some expressions. Could anyone provide Russian — in phonetics, of course — for any or all of the following:

1. That was brilliant, if I may be so bold. (Wild overstatement, of course.)

2. Horowitz wishes he could have played it better. (Ditto)

3. I am mortified! (So often, so true.)

4. I think I should change my shirt and shoot myself in the head. (Never, but she'll laugh.)

Isn't Number 4  very Russian? I seem to remember in a Russian novel some guy either comtemplating such a ritual, or maybe even going through with it. It seems like I also recall that it was not changing into just a clean shirt, but a clean white shirt. No doubt, I'm totally wrong, though.

Anyway...

If you want to throw in various humorous expressions which bear upon my pianistic  ineptitude, that's be wonderful. I'll have many more opportunities to use them than numbers 1 and 2.

But please understand my teacher is such a proper lady I never even consider saying a 'hell' or a '***' in her presence.

And if you don't want to bother, that's okay. Just let the thread die its own slow death.
You might,however, supply the poor thing with a clean white shirt.  :'(

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #1 on: June 24, 2006, 03:50:32 PM
Greetings.

Are you aware that someone might translate to sayings deviating from the said meaning of your sentenses in english? All in all, however, Russian is a very difficult language to translate from and often what you are trying to say in English isn't possible to say in Russian without some sort of obfuscation. I will try to eschew this as best as I can. The second one is the easiest. "Gorovitz hotel shtobe on egral luchshe" In russian the letter "G" isn't pronounced as "gee" in English, but a hard consonant such as in the word going. The first g in the word. I hope that makes sense. In "on", it isn't pronounced as "on" in english but rather a round "O" and then a brief "N" as in the word "only". On "egral", pronounce the e like this "ee". On luchshe, the ch isn't a "k" sound, but rather as in the word chair. I hope that this covered some of the ambiguities.

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #2 on: June 24, 2006, 05:24:30 PM
Thank you very much Debussy Symbolism:)

I'll work on the pronunciation.

In a way, I wish you hadn't mentioned the prank possibilities, because I considered that and figured the Russian-speaking people here wouldn't do something like that, especially when I mentioned how careful I am of my deportment in the presence of my teacher.

And if I fall for a bad trick, well, I'll just write off the idiot who conned me.


Here are my questions, which I hope you don't mind:

Is "hotel" pronounced as a Russian might say the same word in English ?

egral - eeGRAL pr EEgral?

luchshe- sound the 'u'  as in put, or putt or puny? Is the terminal -she not pronounced at all or perhaps like a schwa with the sh sound in front. Net effect like 1½ syllables?

shtobe - just the way it looks with the 'obe' rhyming with globe? And one syllable?

You went to a lot of trouble with this, DS, and I appreciate it immensely.

Thanks once again.

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #3 on: June 24, 2006, 09:45:11 PM
Thank you very much Debussy Symbolism:)

I'll work on the pronunciation.

In a way, I wish you hadn't mentioned the prank possibilities, because I considered that and figured the Russian-speaking people here wouldn't do something like that, especially when I mentioned how careful I am of my deportment in the presence of my teacher.

And if I fall for a bad trick, well, I'll just write off the idiot who conned me.


Here are my questions, which I hope you don't mind:

Is "hotel" pronounced as a Russian might say the same word in English ?

egral - eeGRAL pr EEgral?

luchshe- sound the 'u'  as in put, or putt or puny? Is the terminal -she not pronounced at all or perhaps like a schwa with the sh sound in front. Net effect like 1½ syllables?

shtobe - just the way it looks with the 'obe' rhyming with globe? And one syllable?

You went to a lot of trouble with this, DS, and I appreciate it immensely.

Thanks once again.



You are very welcome. :)

Concerning pranks, you are unlikely to get one, so I don't think you are in danger.

On to the clarifications.

I figure about the "hotel" word. At the very worst pronunciation in Russian, she will still understand you, however, to make it better, the "O" sound, has to not have that "o---u" u tail, just plain o. When you figure your mouth in O shape and vocalize, that sound of O.

egral- eeGRAL

luchshe- the u has to be pronounced as in "pool" double o. Concerning the "she", it is important that sh and e are separate, with the "e" sounding like "ae".

Again with Shtobe, the e is a separate "ae" sound, whilst the ob is as in "globe"

I know that it is ten times easier to show it in person that to write it out, but I tried the best I can. Anyways, have great fun and you will get a couple of laughs. ;)

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #4 on: June 24, 2006, 10:09:53 PM
You're all right, DS:) :) :)

Still laughing.

I'll certainly try it on her. But I'll need to study it closely.

At the risk of boring you to death, Thank you once again.

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #5 on: June 24, 2006, 10:15:42 PM
Heh heh heh, no proble. ;D. Just ask if you need clarifications. :)

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #6 on: June 25, 2006, 08:42:32 AM
Out of curiosity, how would you say:

"How was your vacation, Sergei"

and what is "hello" in russian?

and, i remember learning the word "privjet" but dont remember what it was..maybe it was hello? lol
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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #7 on: June 25, 2006, 09:00:34 AM
Nyet! ;D
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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #8 on: June 25, 2006, 12:06:25 PM
Debussy, how about just plain Brilliant! or Breathtaking!, or Hideous! or Pathetic!   (Phonetically speaking, of course.)

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #9 on: June 25, 2006, 04:08:20 PM
Debussy, how about just plain Brilliant! or Breathtaking!, or Hideous! or Pathetic!   (Phonetically speaking, of course.)

Wow. I'll try to answer as best I can :D.

Breathtaking- The word I have in mind is kind of hard to pronounce and to tell you the truth I have a hard time spelling out the pronunciation, so if I come up with it, I'll write it down. Sorry.

Brilliant- Comes close to Russian. It's "Breellee an t no. The an isn't aen but a plain a sound if that makes sense. As in 'ALL'

Hideous- Uzhashno. That's a hard one so I'll do my best. The U is as in pool. Now, the zh sound isn't found in English and to show how it's pronounced is to do it in person. You could try to sound a Z intermingled with an S, so the z isn't like in buzzzz, but a soft, blurry z. The as is close to the pronunciation of the word "ass" only don't sustain the second s. And with no, again, don't pronounce the sort of "u" ending as we do in English.

In pathetic, the word I have in mind again, uses the "zh" sound, but this time it's at the beginning and she probably won't undestand you. Sorry there. If I come up with a better word or a better way to explain, I'll do it.

Sorry for my ineffective method, but I tried. :D

Concerning Nicco's post, Hello, would be Priviet. You are right.

The sentence would be: "Kak tvoyee veehodnye" and then the name. Again, the vowel sound I Russin isn't used in English, but what I wrote comes close in my opinion.

Anyways, glad to do it. Have fun. ;D

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #10 on: June 25, 2006, 04:18:08 PM
Breellee an t no, Debussy!!!

TY! :) :) :)

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #11 on: June 25, 2006, 04:27:22 PM
Breellee an t no, Debussy!!!

TY! :) :) :)


Heh heh. No problem.

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #12 on: June 25, 2006, 05:17:51 PM
Brilliant - BlesTIAsche
Marvelous - VelikaLEPno
Shameful - PoZORno
Grandious - GrandiOZno
Unequaled - bezpoDOBno
Beautiful - preKRASno
Repulsive - atvraTItielno

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #13 on: June 25, 2006, 05:27:25 PM
Brilliant - BlesTIAsche
Marvelous - VelikaLEPno
Shameful - PoZORno
Grandious - GrandiOZno
Unequaled - bezpoDOBno
Beautiful - preKRASno
Repulsive - atvraTItielno


Oh yeah, wise guy? Well step outside and say:

I think I will put on a clean shirt and shoot myself in the head.


 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #14 on: June 25, 2006, 06:23:07 PM
Oh yeah, wise guy? Well step outside and say:

I think I will put on a clean shirt and shoot myself in the head.


 ;D ;D ;D

Here you go! "iA DUmaiu SHTO MNiE NAdo aDiET CHIStaiu futBOLku ee zastreLITtsa" BTW, if you know spanish pronunciation, read it as in spanish (except the "ee", which should be an "i" in spanich phonetics), it'll be much closer.

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #15 on: June 25, 2006, 06:34:44 PM
What's futbolku doing in a suicide post?

I know it's World Cup time but...

But very cool, nevertheless.  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Please teach me some Russian
Reply #16 on: June 25, 2006, 06:43:35 PM
Brilliant - BlesTIAsche
Marvelous - VelikaLEPno
Shameful - PoZORno
Grandious - GrandiOZno
Unequaled - bezpoDOBno
Beautiful - preKRASno
Repulsive - atvraTItielno


Yeah they are right. How did I not think of them I use them every time. ::)

Futbolka is like a T-shirt. Concerning the saying I have never heard of it, but then again it probably is some kind of Russian thing that I am not aware of.
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