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Offline chopiabin

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Running passage/more delicate pieces
on: February 03, 2004, 06:30:46 AM
I realized today that most of my repertoire consists of very powerful mostly chordal pieces. I want to work on at least one piece that has some interesting running passages and is a little less booming than most of my repertoire. Currently I am playing/ working on Chopin: Oceans etude, Revolutionary etude, Polonaise in A major, Polonaise op.26, #2, nocturne op.48,#1, nocturne op.9, #1 Scriabin: eutde op.2, #1, etude op.8, #11, Racmaninov: Prelude in B minor, op.32#10.

Suggestions?

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #1 on: February 03, 2004, 09:29:10 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by "running passages" but if my guess is correct, I can give two suggestions:
1. Alkan: Barcarolle op.65 no.6
2. Liszt: Consolation no.3

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #2 on: February 04, 2004, 01:47:44 AM
I suggest Liszt's Feux Follets and the Chopin G# minor study in thirds.

Heaps of delicacy and fingerwork in both of those.
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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #3 on: February 04, 2004, 03:47:28 AM
A lyadov- Prelude opus 10-1, Barcarolle opus 44
Try your luck at josef hoffman kaleidoscope opus 40no4
Aslo N. Medtner Arabesque opus 7 no 1

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #4 on: February 04, 2004, 06:33:10 AM
Chopin's Barcarolle is probably what you are looking for, and is in your league.  It has a brilliant run at the end that lasts about 8 seconds (and in "run seconds" that is a lot!)  It is an overall light piece, and full of character.
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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #5 on: February 04, 2004, 03:49:45 PM
there's a scriabin etude comprised of trills in the right and it sounds very magical, like witches wisping around in fog or somewthing.  its opus 42 no 3
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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 01:25:07 AM
Here are a few pieces that do not rely on chords. Not all have fast running passages, but all have a “liquid”, flowing quality:

JS Bach – Chromatic fantasy and fugue.

Couperin – Les barricades mysterieuses (hypnotic rondo all built on broken chords and no change of texture. Wonderful and little known piece)

Chopin – Etude Op. 25 no. 1 & Fantasie Impromptu.

Schubert  - Impromptus Op. 90 (D 899) no. 3 (Beautiful melody over a mist of arpeggiated chords) and no. 2 (non stop running passages on the right hand)

Delius – Prelude no. 3 (Another little known piece that is hauntingly beautiful and very atmospheric)

Mendelssohn – Songs without words op. 19 no. 1. Op. 30 no.1, Op. 38 no.6, Op. 62 no. 1, Op. 67 no. 4, Op. 85 no. 4  (there are more, these are the ones I like)

Grieg – Prelude to the Holberg Suite (Brilliant and uplifiting, almost no one plays it on the piano – Grieg’s own version for orchestra is far better known).

Scarlatti – sonatas (Take your pick)

Mozart – take your pick – Lots of pearly runs

Schumann - Arabesque

Debussy - Arabesque

Liszt – Un Sospiro

Chaminade – Consolation no. 5

Prokofiev - Prelude Op. 12 no. 7

Phillip Glass – Almost any of his piano pieces.

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 04:15:43 AM
Thanks so much everybody! I really might do the Barcarolle by Chopin - it has always been a favorite.

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 06:59:52 PM
you cant get much more of a running passage than in alkan's op 76 - 3rd grande etude. it is all 16th notes at uber-tempo in both hands, for over 5 minutes(unless your uber-fast) beware - its crazeeeee.  ;)  ;D
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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #9 on: February 06, 2004, 03:44:55 PM
Chopin Etude Op. 10 #2.
Delicate... like thin glass. It's short, though.

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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #10 on: February 09, 2004, 10:23:39 PM
The Chopin preludes are generally pretty light.  Especially the short c# minor one.  
Also the Scarlatti sonatas.
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Re: Running passage/more delicate pieces
Reply #11 on: February 10, 2004, 12:54:44 AM
How about the second Paganini-Liszt etude? It also has to do quite a bit with octaves, but I think the majority of the piece has very long runs connecting the melody, that should be played as smoothly and as fast as possible. I think this would be excellent practice.
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