Global warming survey

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In other words, the very kind of western wealth that you imply is at the heart of the problem!

No, i don't mean western wealth but just more wealth. Huge difference.

I'm not so sure that it will change as drastically as all that. China is likely to become much more wealthy, undoubtedly, but the rest will probably carry on much as usual, because that is what business interests invariably determine;

We'll see. We can just assume.

Any serious research on this subject is bound to involve the oceans in some significant way if it is to be taken seriously; we have already discussed the question of provision and distribution of desalinated and purified water where it is most needed - and, indeed to everywhere where syuch water in needed. Whether "electrolysing the oceans" may ever become a practical and productive possibility, I cannot possibly guess.

It was just a joke anyway. Could be an option in 200 years when mankind has access to better sources of energy, but that's just speculation ...

No, no, a thousand times no! It is LACK of money - or rather lack of money being made available - that is the reason why so little has been done and, as I have said, it is not consumption per se that is at fault but unthinking and inappropriate consumption.

Why no? I meant that, i was just saying that money is the reason. We have adressed this before, i know the money is not distributed appropriately, if it was we would be better off today.

Of course they would - and do - and it is they and their bankers and investors that have put up so much resistance to alternative means of power for so long. That said, I do not believe that any oil company that diversified into, say, solar power and then made thumping great profits out of it would any longer be resistant. Oil companies aren't as interested in oil per se as they are in the making of enormous global profits from consumers. The only problem for them with the solar idea is that there may be a perceived - and perhaps quite genuine - fear that sufficient successful research into this area might end up enabling small companies and private individuals to make their own electricity and become more self-sufficient in energy supplies rather than having constantly to buy more of their energy products.

True.

btw, i think i've learned more english with this discussion than in the whole last school year 

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Since it's difficult for me to have a discussion in english, i give you something to read.

Concerning the credibility of the scientific facts, i think IPCC, UN, intergovernmental organisation etc says everything. What is said there is the prevailing scientific opinion.

I have read it but i will not read it again to summarize arguments or facts supportive of my view because it takes too much time and there's simply too much text.

https://www.grida.no/climate/ipcc_tar/wg1/index.htm

In sum, the human element probably represents the most important aspect both of the causes and effects of climate change and environmental impacts.

I am aware of the word "probably" here. Just see the book for more details and draw your conclusion. Much of it is not directly related to our discussion but either indirectly or its just interesting stuff to know.